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What is HELLENISM?

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Re: What is HELLENISM?

Postby kimon07 » Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:33 pm

Some contamporary (after 1821) Greeks (a very small sample)

Ioannis Kapodistrias.

We (Greeks) know him as the first Governor of liberated Greece right?
“In 1809 Kapodistrias entered the service of Alexander I of Russia.[20] His first important mission, in November 1813, was as unofficial Russian ambassador to Switzerland, with the task of helping disentangle the country from the French dominance imposed by Napoleon. He secured Swiss unity, independence and neutrality, which were formally guaranteed by the Great Powers, and actively facilitated the initiation of a new Constitution for the 19 cantons that were the component states of Switzerland, with personal drafts.[21] In the ensuing Congress of Vienna, 1815, as the Russian minister, he counterbalanced the paramount influence of the Austrian minister, Prince Metternich, and insisted on French state unity under a Bourbon monarch. He also obtained new international guarantees for the Constitution and neutrality of Switzerland through an agreement among the Powers. After these brilliant diplomatic successes, Alexander I appointed Kapodistrias joint Foreign Minister of Russia (with Karl Robert Nesselrode).”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ioannis_Ka ... r_Republic

Dr. George Papanikolaou (Pap test).

“The Papanicolaou test (also called Pap smear, Pap test, cervical smear, or smear test) is a screening test used in to detect pre-cancerous and cancerous processes in the endocervical canal (transformation zone) of the female reproductive system. Changes can be treated, thus preventing cervical cancer. The test was invented by and named after the prominent Greek doctor Georgios Papanikolaou. An anal Pap smear is an adaptation of the procedure to screen and detect anal cancers.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pap_test

Thanassis Economou

“Economou also built the Alpha Proton X-ray Spectrometer that successfully performed the first chemical analysis of martian rocks aboard the Mars Pathfinder rover in 1997.”
http://en.sae.gr/?id=18180
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Re: What is HELLENISM?

Postby Get Real! » Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:15 pm

Kimon, you have no idea how many HUNDREDS have come here before you and posted Greek propaganda from junk sites, which led to this …

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle01.htm
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Re: What is HELLENISM?

Postby kimon07 » Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:37 pm

Cap wrote:1821-2011. 190 years of modern Greece.
190 years of modern Greece has given our children and the world... what exactly?
'opa, opa', ouzo, zeimbekiko and the refined art of corruption?


The topic of this Thread is not what Modern Greece offered to you or your children after 1821, but what Hellenism offered and offers to the world.
It seems to me that you and Me ed have a big difficulty understanding this (or simply arguing on it).
In any event, if you insist in having an answer to this irrelevant question under this thread, I will be happy to oblige.
So, have this for starters.
WW II (that was between 1940-1945 AD you know (?)
According to Sir Antony Eden, Stalin, Field Marshall Zhukov, Winston Churchill, Franklin Roosevelt and others, the delay which the resistance of the Greek Army caused to the invasion of the Soviet Union by the Germans, turned the odds of the war and caused the final victory of the allies.
So, if we believe them, Hellas, with its sacrifice and the sacrifice of its children, offered to you, your children and grand children as well as the rest of the Free World, the chance to be free today instead of subjects of the 3d Reich.
opa-opa, ouzo indeed.

And a piece of advise to you.
Avoid arguing historical issues or jumping into arbitrary conclusions. Do not deal with historical facts unless you know them. History is not guess work. It often ridicules ignorants and especialy half ingorants (According to the Hellenic Wisdom, "halh ignorance is worse than ignorance" or, "Ημιμάθεια χειροτέρα της αμαθείας").

Cheers.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/53309/What-Gr ... orld-War-2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Greece
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Re: What is HELLENISM?

Postby Get Real! » Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:51 pm

kimon07 wrote:And a piece of advise to you.
Avoid arguing historical issues or jumping into arbitrary conclusions. Do not deal with historical facts unless you know them. History is not guess work. It often ridicules ignorants and especialy half ingorants (According to the Hellenic Wisdom, "halh ignorance is worse than ignorance" or, "Ημιμάθεια χειροτέρα της αμαθείας").

Isn't this advise you should take yourself? :lol:
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Re: What is HELLENISM?

Postby Cap » Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:16 pm

You don't need to be a historian to see Kimon.
And these hellenes you speak of, they're mostly Greeks of the Diaspora. Educated overseas, given opportunities to excel and flourish in foreign countries.

We're talking about Greeks from Greece.
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Re: What is HELLENISM?

Postby supporttheunderdog » Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:24 pm

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Re: What is HELLENISM?

Postby kurupetos » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:12 pm

No, you are a dog.
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Re: What is HELLENISM?

Postby supporttheunderdog » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:23 pm

kurupetos wrote:No, you are a dog.


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I am Supporttheunderdog , not a dog.

A name expresses a person's essence and identity and the meaning of this person's life. To disclose one's name is to make oneself known to others; in a way it is to hand oneself over by becoming accessible, capable of being known more intimately and addressed personally.
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Re: What is HELLENISM?

Postby kurupetos » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:24 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:
kurupetos wrote:No, you are a dog.


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I am Supporttheunderdog , not a dog.

A name expresses a person's essence and identity and the meaning of this person's life. To disclose one's name is to make oneself known to others; in a way it is to hand oneself over by becoming accessible, capable of being known more intimately and addressed personally.

I apologise. I should have said you are a Jewish dog. :wink:
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Re: What is HELLENISM?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:51 pm

Towards the onward evolution of Hellenism ... :)

John Philoponus (Greek: Ἰωάννης ὁ Φιλόπονος; AD. 490–AD. 570), also known as John the Grammarian or John of Alexandria, was a Christian and Aristotelian commentator and the author of a considerable number of philosophical treatises and theological works. A rigorous, sometimes polemical writer and an original thinker who was controversial in his own time, John Philoponus broke from the Aristotelian-Neoplatonic tradition, questioning methodology and eventually leading to empiricism in the natural sciences.
He was posthumously condemned as a heretic by the Orthodox Church in 680-81 because of what was perceived of as a tritheistic interpretation of the Trinity.
His works were widely printed in Latin translations in Europe from the 15th century onwards. His critique of Aristotle in the Physics commentary was a major influence on Giovanni Pico della Mirandola and Galileo Galilei, who cited Philoponus substantially in his works
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