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[Piratis]

I see, so since the British had India, and the French Algeria, why should we accuse poor Turks for having a part of a small island, right?

That small island, dear "Turk" is our island, and as long as you occupy a part of our land we will make our best so you will pay as high cost for it as possible until we take it back. It is your choice to be our enemies, so you shouldn't be supriced when we treat you as such.

[pisagor]

be careful while selecting words, you dont accuse a country or an army; you accuse a nation (tobe poor) which lives very close to you, with serious number. I can advise that you should not trust so much your "european" friends. Yes, they look like so interested in cyprus matter and like beeing sensitive. It can be seen definetely by way of turning the history pages that these nobles do not move their finger if they do not have a profit. Do you believe englishes are supporting you because they believed your rightness and they are sharing your spurious pain , honestly ?
I touch on these, cause you said : "u will pay as high cost for it as possible until we take it back" .. no my friend, we will pay as long as europeans have profit .They can not understand your losts in 1974 ... but we can... In the wars, no side wins. pls try to explain us , and try to solve everything with us . If you dont, and go on to trust the easy ways , servicing by europeans , your martyrs bones will ache.

[Piratis]

I am trying to undertand what you are want to say but I am not sure if I got your points correctly.

What you mean I don't accuse a country but I accuse a nation?
I accuse the ones who support the occupation of my country. If we assume that Turkey is a democratic country then we have to assume that the majority of Turks support the occupation, right?

pls try to explain us , and try to solve everything with us

What exactly do you want us to explain to you?

If you dont, and go on to trust the easy ways , servicing by europeans , your martyrs bones will ache.

So we should trust Turky more than Europeans? Isn't this a "bit" strange thing to ask for when Turkey occupies 1/3rd of our country?

[pisagor]

you said "turks" and it means a nation. You had to say "turkish army" or "turkey".It is not a politic view, because of that i indicated so: "be careful while choosing words".It was a conceptual problem. but little details can be a very strong guns in words cause "People" did not make occupying decision .
ofcourse we are your direct drawee, not europeans. You still frigthen your people , "turks will come and take everything ! " .. It is your pleasure to see europeans apply pressing us.
I wanted to express this: "If england or Us took your country , you would not talk about "occupying" , "minority-majority" or anything " ! I did not say , to take a land is a innocent thing.
Whatever hapened , your problem is with us today and we are not animal

[Piratis]

but little details can be a very strong guns in words cause "People" did not make occupying decision .

Are you saying that the majority of Turkish people do not support the occupation of Cyprus?

It is your pleasure to see europeans apply pressing us.

Its not our plesure, is our only weapon. When your country uses its own weapons to harm another one, then you should expect a response. Our response is a very mild one compared with what you did.

Whatever hapened , your problem is with us today and we are not animal

I didn't say you are animal. What I say is that your country is doing something illegal. You stop doing it, and then everything will be fine.

The English do not have India anymore, neither the French occupy Algeria. So don't you think its time for the Turkish army to leave from Cyprus?

[pisagor]

Are you saying that the majority of Turkish people do not support the occupation of Cyprus?

That is the another matter, you dont know turkish people well. In 1974 most of the people were not supporting.Army was beeing crazy, after 6 years , happened a military stroke and they took possesion. Around 10 years 50 thousands people were killed by army and over 100 thousands were exposed to torture in camps because politic reasons.
On the otherhand , while we were fighting militaristic powers, greek cypriots improved their fury.
After 30 years, we are anxious for turks life in cyprus , ofcourse everythings responsible was army but it changes nothing.. we still are anxious for turks life therefore we struggle , not because of nationalistic ideas or to support an army that we always hated. Because of these reasons, i told you : " we can understand your pain" .
You can think about nationalistic groups in turkey.They are very small. I have been in Limassol( as cuban citizen, was forbidden to visit for turks) and have been convinced that Turkish nationalists are not more than cypriots.

[brother]

Bit of a strange conversation this one, sort of understood what he was trying to say but may i remind you all cyprus belongs to the turkish cypriots also, this is our country too and any and all negotiations will involve us as well.