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[yialousa1971]

Ötzi, the Tyrolean Iceman belonged to Y-haplogroup G2a4




Interview Dr. Eduard Egarter-Vigl, Head of Conservation and Assistant to research projects of the Archaeological Museum in Bozen.
From the Docu-Movie: "Ötzi, ein Archäologiekrimi" [Ötzi, a Archaeology Crime] by Christine Sprachmann [CC-BY].
TV-Broadcasted by 3sat 10th august 2011 and br-alpha 13th september 2011.

[Translated content]
Since six months, the full decoding of the genome of the Iceman is done. It has been sequenced and it is almost totally there. Certain genes that are relevant to the origin, Y-chromosome, for example, can be examined well. The characterization of the genome regarding the origin goes over [...] information known as haplogroups. This is a summary of information. And the haplogroup to which the Iceman belonged is the haplogroup G2a4. So, this is a terminus tecnicus who don't tell anyone something, but it is so. And this group is known, that it is now very rare in Europe. Interestingly, it is still in Sardinia. Sardinia is as an island a so-called Micro-isolate where the population has hardly changed and so has developed genetically fairly constant. But there is this haplogroup [...] in Eurasian regions, ie those from which we know that Europe was actually populated.

[yialousa1971]

Brown-eyed, bearded, furrow faced, and tired: this is how Ötzi the Iceman might have looked, according to the latest reconstruction based on 20 years of research and investigations.

Realized by two Dutch experts, Alfons and Adrie Kennis, the model was produced with the latest in forensic mapping technology that uses three-dimensional images of the mummy's skull as well as infrared and tomographic images.

The new reconstruction shows a prematurely old man, with deep-set eyes, sunken cheeks, a furrowed face and ungroomed beard and hair.

Although he looks tired, Ötzi has vivid brown eyes. Indeed, recent research on the 5,300-year-old mummy has shown that the Stone Age man did not have blue eyes as previously thought.

Believed to have died around the age of 45, Ötzi was about 1.60 meters (5 foot, 3 inches) tall and weighed 50 kilograms (110 pounds).

The model will go on display beginning March 1 to Jan. 15, 2012, at the South Tyrol Museum of Archaeology in Bolzano, Italy.

Called "Ötzi 20," the exhibition celebrates the 20th anniversary of the mummy's discovery. The Iceman's frozen body was found in a melting glacier in the Ötzal Alps -- hence the Ötzi name -- on Sept. 19, 1991.

[Get Real!]

These reconstructions are a load of bollocks!

How can one figure out boneless areas like lips, nose, ears, etc?

[yialousa1971]

These reconstructions are a load of bollocks!

How can one figure out boneless areas like lips, nose, ears, etc?

Just shows that you don't know what you are talking about.

[bill cobbett]

What on Earth is a Y-haplogroup G2a4 group ??? ... in simple language.

[kurupetos]

What on Earth is a Y-haplogroup G2a4 group ??? ... in simple language.

Some sort of a Mycenaean Scot, who emigrated to Austria.

[bill cobbett]

What on Earth is a Y-haplogroup G2a4 group ??? ... in simple language.

Some sort of a Mycenaean Scot, who emigrated to Austria.

oh... thanks. (why you blinking...? Got something in your eye?)

[yialousa1971]

What on Earth is a Y-haplogroup G2a4 group ??? ... in simple language.

The Tyrolean Iceman belongs to haplogroup G2a4, a minor lineage in modern-day Europeans. In a Neolithic site from the French south, Treilles, haplogroups G2 and I2 were found.

G*
G1 (M285, M342) G1* - G1a (P20.1, P20.2, P20.3) G1a* G1a1 (L201^, L202^, L203^)


G1b (P76)


G2 (P287) G2* -
G2a (P15, U5, L31/S149, L149^) G2a* - G2a1 (P16.1, P16.2) G2a1* - G2a1a (P18.1, P18.2, P18.3)


G2a2 (M286)
G2a3 (L30/S126, L32/S148) G2a3* - G2a3a (M406) G2a3a* - G2a3a1 (L14/S130/U16, L90/S133)
G2a3a2 (L645^)


G2a3b (L141.1^) G2a3b* - G2a3b1 (P303/S135) G2a3b1* - G2a3b1a (L140^) G2a3b1a* G2a3b1a1 (U1) G2a3b1a1* G2a3b1a1a (L13/S131/U13, L78)


G2a3b1a2 (L497)^ G2a3b1a2* G2a3b1a2a (L43/S147) G2a3b1a2a* G2a3b1a2a1 (L42/S146)



G2a3b1a3 (L640^)
G2a3b1a4 (L660^, L662^)



G2a3b1b (L694^)


G2a3b2 (L177.1^, L177.2^, L177.3^)




G2a4 (L91^)
G2a5 (L293^)


G2b (M287)
G2c (M377, L72, L183^) G2c* - G2c1 (M283)

The ^ indicates newly identified in 2009-11. The * indicates negativity for subgroups of that category

The seven most commonly occurring subgroups of haplogroup G in existing data with their corresponding SNPs in parentheses are: G1 (M285), G2a1 (P16) G2a3a (M406), G2a3b1a (L140), G2a3b1a2 (L497), G2a3b1a1a (L13/S131/U13) and G2c (M377).

G2a found at 9% Cyprus, 7% Crete and Thessaly 8%

[bill cobbett]

What on Earth is a Y-haplogroup G2a4 group ??? ... in simple language.

The Tyrolean Iceman belongs to haplogroup G2a4, a minor lineage in modern-day Europeans. In a Neolithic site from the French south, Treilles, haplogroups G2 and I2 were found.

G*
G1 (M285, M342) G1* - G1a (P20.1, P20.2, P20.3) G1a* G1a1 (L201^, L202^, L203^)


G1b (P76)


G2 (P287) G2* -
G2a (P15, U5, L31/S149, L149^) G2a* - G2a1 (P16.1, P16.2) G2a1* - G2a1a (P18.1, P18.2, P18.3)


G2a2 (M286)
G2a3 (L30/S126, L32/S148) G2a3* - G2a3a (M406) G2a3a* - G2a3a1 (L14/S130/U16, L90/S133)
G2a3a2 (L645^)


G2a3b (L141.1^) G2a3b* - G2a3b1 (P303/S135) G2a3b1* - G2a3b1a (L140^) G2a3b1a* G2a3b1a1 (U1) G2a3b1a1* G2a3b1a1a (L13/S131/U13, L78)


G2a3b1a2 (L497)^ G2a3b1a2* G2a3b1a2a (L43/S147) G2a3b1a2a* G2a3b1a2a1 (L42/S146)



G2a3b1a3 (L640^)
G2a3b1a4 (L660^, L662^)



G2a3b1b (L694^)


G2a3b2 (L177.1^, L177.2^, L177.3^)




G2a4 (L91^)
G2a5 (L293^)


G2b (M287)
G2c (M377, L72, L183^) G2c* - G2c1 (M283)

The ^ indicates newly identified in 2009-11. The * indicates negativity for subgroups of that category

The seven most commonly occurring subgroups of haplogroup G in existing data with their corresponding SNPs in parentheses are: G1 (M285), G2a1 (P16) G2a3a (M406), G2a3b1a (L140), G2a3b1a2 (L497), G2a3b1a1a (L13/S131/U13) and G2c (M377).

G2a found at 9% Cyprus, 7% Crete and Thessaly 8%

So this Iceman had 9% CY genes ???

[GreekIslandGirl]

Not meaning to question Yialousa's credentials - but what is this neolithic iceman doing in 'Politics and Elections'?