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Re: Cyprus Talks-Greentree Estate, Manhasset, New York ....

Postby kurupetos » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:27 pm

bill cobbett wrote:Yes, that's the one, the right-wing fascist b'stards.

You're very wrong here matey. Most of APOEL supporters vote for Disy. The only party that supported the Annan Plan in 2004.
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Re: Cyprus Talks-Greentree Estate, Manhasset, New York ....

Postby bill cobbett » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:46 pm

kurupetos wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Yes, that's the one, the right-wing fascist b'stards.

You're very wrong here matey. Most of APOEL supporters vote for Disy. The only party that supported the Annan Plan in 2004.


Doesn't surprise me to hear am wrong... :D (well occasionally)
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Re: Cyprus Talks-Greentree Estate, Manhasset, New York ....

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:00 pm

bill cobbett wrote:Yes.. a little more on agreements and areas of disagreements in NY as reported by the Press and Information Service of the Republic from press reports in the Occupied Areas...

. Agreement on three chapters has reportedly been reached in the Cyprus talks in New York
Under the title “Three chapters are ok”, Turkish Cypriot daily Kibris (31.10.11) reports that an agreement has been reached on three chapters at the trilateral meeting taking place in New York between the UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, the President of the Republic of Cyprus Demetris Christofias and the Turkish Cypriot leader Dervis Eroglu.

According to the paper, the two leaders have agreed on Economy, Internal Security and the European Union, “except for some minor complications”.

The paper, citing information obtained by its general director Resat Akar, who notes that his information comes from “very reliable sources”, reports that there is consensus between the two leaders on the three above-mentioned chapters which are ready to be signed.

As regards the economy, it has been agreed that rotating presidency will exist in the Central Bank and the Commission of the Public Service. On this issue there is a small disagreement about the duration of the term of the Turkish Cypriot president, since the Greek Cypriot side wants the Turkish Cypriot term to be shorter.

The paper also writes that a branch office of the Central Bank will be opened soon in the north.

On the issue of the EU funds, it was agreed that the two founding states will be benefited by the funds as “two separate regions”.

The two sides have also agreed on the budget of the federal state. According to the agreement, the two sides will contribute to the budget in accordance to their population. In addition, the infrastructure problems of the Turkish founding state will be faced partly by the federal’s state budget and by the EU Structural Funds.

Euro will be the currency of the federal state. However, the Turkish lira will be in use one year after the solution.

However, the leaders have not agreed as to whether the agreement in Cyprus will become primary law of the EU.

As regards the Internal Security, two institutions will be established at a federal level. The one will be the federal police and the other will be the common investigation authority. Rotating presidency will exist in these institutions as well. However, when the president is Turkish Cypriot, the vice president will be Greek Cypriot and vice versa.

The numbers of the members of the federal police will be 500, while the number of the common investigation authority will be 300. The common investigation authority will deal with issues like terrorism, money laundry, human trafficking.

As regards the European Union, a common committee will be established, which will be exerting the decisions of the federal government in EU decision-taking mechanisms. The committee will be consisting of four members, two Turkish Cypriots and two Greek Cypriots. Again, there will be rotation in the Brussels permanent representation office of the federal state. When the representative is Turkish Cypriot his assistant will be Greek Cypriot and vice versa.

Equal representation will take place in judiciary.

In addition, it was agreed that the “alarm bell” method will be used in case there is an important disagreement between the two sides. The “alarm bell”, which is successfully used in Belgium, will be used for example in case that draft-laws are rejected or accepted by the assembly, and a decision against any community is taken.

Finally, the paper writes that it is expected that an announcement will be made on the reaching of an agreement on these three chapters in the New York meeting. The paper also writes that there is great possibility that the difficult issues are left for an “international conference”.


Turkish press is usually unreliable.I really doubt this 50-50 sharing at top Federal level positions has indeed been agreed. It is just what what the Turkish side dreams of it to be under the concept of political equality.However Political equality was clarified by the UN a long time ago not to mean arithmetic equality by effective say.
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Re: Cyprus Talks-Greentree Estate, Manhasset, New York ....

Postby kurupetos » Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:38 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Yes, that's the one, the right-wing fascist b'stards.

You're very wrong here matey. Most of APOEL supporters vote for Disy. The only party that supported the Annan Plan in 2004.


Doesn't surprise me to hear am wrong... :D (well occasionally)

Usually you are right and accurate. :wink:
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Re: Cyprus Talks-Greentree Estate, Manhasset, New York ....

Postby Lit » Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:01 am

:? They cant even agree on what they were talking about

http://www.cyprusweekly.com.cy/main/92, ... YPRUS.aspx

NEW YORK - The two-day meeting between UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon, President of the Republic of Cyprus Demetris Christofias and Turkish Cypriot leader Dervis Eroglu concludes on Monday at Greentree, Long Island, with a dinner hosted by the UN chief.

A statement by the UN Secretary General is expected on Tuesday, at UN headquarters. Although it is not yet clear, it is most probable that the UN chief will be making a statement alone and may take some questions.

The talks continued on Monday on governance, property, territory and citizenship. Commenting on Turkish Cypriot press reports that an agreement had been achieved on the economy, the EU and internal security, a Greek Cypriot source said that no talks were held on those three chapters, since the talks were focusing on the other four issues.

UN Spokesman Martin Nezirski said the UN chief was meeting with the leaders of the two communities and would be making a statement on Tuesday at UN headquarters.
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Re: Cyprus Talks-Greentree Estate, Manhasset, New York ....

Postby Jerry » Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:05 am

Halil, cut the effing bullshit,


How much territory are you going to return?


Otherwise it's all a waste of time.
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Re: Cyprus Talks-Greentree Estate, Manhasset, New York ....

Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:08 am

:? I cannot believe people are actually following this gimmick!
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Re: Cyprus Talks-Greentree Estate, Manhasset, New York ....

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:09 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Yes.. a little more on agreements and areas of disagreements in NY as reported by the Press and Information Service of the Republic from press reports in the Occupied Areas...

. Agreement on three chapters has reportedly been reached in the Cyprus talks in New York
Under the title “Three chapters are ok”, Turkish Cypriot daily Kibris (31.10.11) reports that an agreement has been reached on three chapters at the trilateral meeting taking place in New York between the UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, the President of the Republic of Cyprus Demetris Christofias and the Turkish Cypriot leader Dervis Eroglu.

According to the paper, the two leaders have agreed on Economy, Internal Security and the European Union, “except for some minor complications”.

The paper, citing information obtained by its general director Resat Akar, who notes that his information comes from “very reliable sources”, reports that there is consensus between the two leaders on the three above-mentioned chapters which are ready to be signed.

As regards the economy, it has been agreed that rotating presidency will exist in the Central Bank and the Commission of the Public Service. On this issue there is a small disagreement about the duration of the term of the Turkish Cypriot president, since the Greek Cypriot side wants the Turkish Cypriot term to be shorter.

The paper also writes that a branch office of the Central Bank will be opened soon in the north.

On the issue of the EU funds, it was agreed that the two founding states will be benefited by the funds as “two separate regions”.

The two sides have also agreed on the budget of the federal state. According to the agreement, the two sides will contribute to the budget in accordance to their population. In addition, the infrastructure problems of the Turkish founding state will be faced partly by the federal’s state budget and by the EU Structural Funds.

Euro will be the currency of the federal state. However, the Turkish lira will be in use one year after the solution.

However, the leaders have not agreed as to whether the agreement in Cyprus will become primary law of the EU.

As regards the Internal Security, two institutions will be established at a federal level. The one will be the federal police and the other will be the common investigation authority. Rotating presidency will exist in these institutions as well. However, when the president is Turkish Cypriot, the vice president will be Greek Cypriot and vice versa.

The numbers of the members of the federal police will be 500, while the number of the common investigation authority will be 300. The common investigation authority will deal with issues like terrorism, money laundry, human trafficking.

As regards the European Union, a common committee will be established, which will be exerting the decisions of the federal government in EU decision-taking mechanisms. The committee will be consisting of four members, two Turkish Cypriots and two Greek Cypriots. Again, there will be rotation in the Brussels permanent representation office of the federal state. When the representative is Turkish Cypriot his assistant will be Greek Cypriot and vice versa.

Equal representation will take place in judiciary.

In addition, it was agreed that the “alarm bell” method will be used in case there is an important disagreement between the two sides. The “alarm bell”, which is successfully used in Belgium, will be used for example in case that draft-laws are rejected or accepted by the assembly, and a decision against any community is taken.

Finally, the paper writes that it is expected that an announcement will be made on the reaching of an agreement on these three chapters in the New York meeting. The paper also writes that there is great possibility that the difficult issues are left for an “international conference”.


Turkish press is usually unreliable.I really doubt this 50-50 sharing at top Federal level positions has indeed been agreed. It is just what what the Turkish side dreams of it to be under the concept of political equality.However Political equality was clarified by the UN a long time ago not to mean arithmetic equality by effective say.


Pyro file... yes of course the motives of the original author of the whole lot are questionable, and the whole lot is made even more questionable by Lit's post above... perhaps can stress that the transcript comes from the day's review of the press in the Occupied Areas that has been re-printed as is by the Press and Information Service of the Republic at ...

http://www.cyprus.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.ns ... enDocument

Jerry ... quite right... Property and Territory ... oh and Freedom of Establishment
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Re: Cyprus Talks-Greentree Estate, Manhasset, New York ....

Postby Jerry » Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:12 am

Get Real! wrote::? I cannot believe people are actually following this gimmick!


You just did. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Cyprus Talks-Greentree Estate, Manhasset, New York ....

Postby Jerry » Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:14 am

bill cobbett wrote:Jerry ... quite right... Property and Territory ... oh and Freedom of Establishment


Yeah and,

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