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[joe]

I am not questioning your sexuality, Greek faggot boy!

Who is the vulgar cretin now? Every few months we have to have a discussion as to who Cypriots "really" are. A Cypriot will tell you to your face what he is...whether he is a tc a gc a plain c or what ever else resides here. You are not the one who is going to come here and tell us who we are. Can you understand that?

You better snap out of your stupidity because this attitude has undermine you. The saddest thing of all is that it will undermine all future generations.

And what right do you have to do something like that? What right do you have to destroy Cyprus because you are too stupid and insecure thus needing to hold on to foreign apron strings? Can you answer that?

You are a corrupted individual, that has endured years of subjugation and brainwashing. I pitty your following generations, because you as their guardian is unworthy to even look into their eyes, since you have condemned them to the same miserable fate as yours!

You have no clue who i am by my brief conversation with you. CAN YOU PLEASE STOP TELLING US WHO WE ARE.

[Hermes]

There you go… here’s your “Hellenic world” in all its glory!

http://www.populstat.info/Europe/greecec.htm

You cannot have a “world” when you’ve only got 1 million illiterate Balkan peasants bunched up in tents and mud houses in the middle of a tiny European territory that formed “Greece”!

What rubbish! How do you account for the writings of Makriyannis and Solomos? Of Kalvos, Palamas, Cavafy, Laskaratos, Valaoritis, Kazantzakis, Sikelianos? All of whom were born before or within fifty years of the founding of the modern Greek state? They did not feel they were part of a Greek world? They were all illiterate?

And speaking of "peasants". You know nothing about Greek demotic culture, music, folk song, language, the Greek Church, its liturgy, its heritage and roots? How writers and musicians drew on the culture of these "peasants"?

You have no idea of the continuity of Greek customs which have been kept alive for centuries by the "peasants" you describe? Enough of this nonsense. How you've managed to live in a bubble of ignorance so long is quite an achievement. At least illiterate Greek peasants knew who they were and weren't ashamed of it.

[Maxx]

There you go… here’s your “Hellenic world” in all its glory!

http://www.populstat.info/Europe/greecec.htm

You cannot have a “world” when you’ve only got 1 million illiterate Balkan peasants bunched up in tents and mud houses in the middle of a tiny European territory that formed “Greece”!

What rubbish! How do you account for the writings of Makriyannis and Solomos? Of Kalvos, Palamas, Cavafy, Laskaratos, Valaoritis, Kazantzakis, Sikelianos? All of whom were born before or within fifty years of the founding of the modern Greek state? They did not feel they were part of a Greek world? They were all illiterate?

And speaking of "peasants". You know nothing about Greek demotic culture, music, folk song, language, the Greek Church, its liturgy, its heritage and roots? How writers and musicians drew on the culture of these "peasants"?

You have no idea of the continuity of Greek customs which have been kept alive for centuries by the "peasants" you describe? Enough of this nonsense. How you've managed to live in a bubble of ignorance so long is quite an achievement. At least illiterate Greek peasants knew who they were and weren't ashamed of it.

All 3rd world ottoman peasants you are just as confused as you lot and needed to do one of the following way back then:

1) develop their own ID as has the new world, or
2) accept that they are 3rd world ottomans who were cypriots once upon a time.

[Maxx]

I am not questioning your sexuality, Greek faggot boy!

Who is the vulgar cretin now? Every few months we have to have a discussion as to who Cypriots "really" are. A Cypriot will tell you to your face what he is...whether he is a tc a gc a plain c or what ever else resides here. You are not the one who is going to come here and tell us who we are. Can you understand that?

You better snap out of your stupidity because this attitude has undermine you. The saddest thing of all is that it will undermine all future generations.

And what right do you have to do something like that? What right do you have to destroy Cyprus because you are too stupid and insecure thus needing to hold on to foreign apron strings? Can you answer that?

You are a corrupted individual, that has endured years of subjugation and brainwashing. I pitty your following generations, because you as their guardian is unworthy to even look into their eyes, since you have condemned them to the same miserable fate as yours!

You have no clue who i am by my brief conversation with you. CAN YOU PLEASE STOP TELLING US WHO WE ARE.

No, and no I don't know who you are and nor do I care.

[Maxx]

Dont EVER question my ethnicity. It has been tried before by foreign rulers so i do not take that likely. Who elected you ruler of my country to actually have the audacity to tell us who we are? do you not have better things to do than attack Greek Cypriots here? Do i tell you who you are?

You got that right and a very interesting and accurate point you raise.

it is true that foreign rulers such as the British Colonialists would tell us who we are. they were divisive, experts in 'divide and rule', and look where it got us.

I am offended at your stupidity!

[kingsaxon]

historically-speaking there was an indigenous population on the island before any of the ethnicities mentioned above. This is what I would consider Cypriots who then by way of culture went through various stages of development, most notably Hellenism being the strongest influence. One thing for certain is we are only Greek by political nationalization. Cypriots have a strong sense of their own identity and not one of my family will tell you that they have strong affinity with Greece. And yes we could all be part Arab, Egyptian, Phoenician, Hittite, Frankish, Templar, Scottish (anyone noticed the red-haired scottish looking Cypriot?), Ottoman. But these definition belong to culturally defined groups and not strictly ethnic. So we much re-evaluate the question which should be one of inclusion. Is this an ethnic-nationalist debate or a cultural-nationalist one? If it is about the preservation of the unique and wonderful Cypriot culture, I think the latter is the best choice. Unless of course, your a fascist.

I myself am an English-Cypriot so I know where I stand. Who would deny my what I believe to be my heritage.

[Piratis]

historically-speaking there was an indigenous population on the island before any of the ethnicities mentioned above. This is what I would consider Cypriots who then by way of culture went through various stages of development, most notably Hellenism being the strongest influence. One thing for certain is we are only Greek by political nationalization. Cypriots have a strong sense of their own identity and not one of my family will tell you that they have strong affinity with Greece. And yes we could all be part Arab, Egyptian, Phoenician, Hittite, Frankish, Templar, Scottish (anyone noticed the red-haired scottish looking Cypriot?), Ottoman. But these definition belong to culturally defined groups and not strictly ethnic. So we much re-evaluate the question which should be one of inclusion. Is this an ethnic-nationalist debate or a cultural-nationalist one? If it is about the preservation of the unique and wonderful Cypriot culture, I think the latter is the best choice. Unless of course, your a fascist.

I myself am an English-Cypriot so I know where I stand. Who would deny my what I believe to be my heritage.

If the Greeks who came to Cyprus at about 1500BC are not indigenous to Cyprus, then the English (Angles) who went to Britain at about 500AD, could not possibly be indigenous to Britain. Not only the English went to Britain far later than Greeks came to Cyprus, but in Britain there are human settlements going back 30.000 years, as opposed to 10.000 years in Cyprus. (and the same kind of mixing happened in Britain as well - indigenous people, Celts, Romans, Vikings, Anglo-Saxons, French and more recently blacks, asians and everything else imaginable)

And then you come here to claim that you are English-Cypriot (possibly with only one, or even none, of your parents being English), and at the same time you imply that we can not be Greek-Cypriots because that would be "fascist"? I hope you realize how arrogant your position is.

I don't know you and your family, but I can tell you that the vast majority of Greek Cypriots voted for enosis in 1950, while more recently the streets were flooded with people celebrating when Greece won the Euro, and all these despite all efforts by certain foreigners to de-Hellenize Cyprus, even forcing us against our will to be a separate state.

[Get Real!]

If the Greeks who came to Cyprus at about 1500BC...

Before you call other people’s claims “baseless” how about you provide creditable evidence that this happened?

After all, it is the very thread from which the rest of your baloney theories dangle! Is it not?

You simply CANNOT prove this because it is someone’s ASSUMPTION from the past which everyone else just went along with, and nobody seems bothered to deal with today!

[Get Real!]

Hermes,

China, with her 1.4b population and 10k^2 kilometers of territory, does NOT call herself “The Chinese World”!

Russia, with her 143 million population and 17k^2 kilometers of territory, does NOT call herself “The Russian World”!

So who the fuck do these Slavic gypsies think they are calling their tossings and two donums of land “The Hellenic World”? Ha?

Are you for fucking real?

[Get Real!]

Greece has 5 stone throwing peasants on the mainland and a couple more scattered on the islands, and they call that the “Hellenic World”?

Oh, I forgot about the “Kostoui” who emigrated to the Americas in 1953 and forms the “dispora”! So that makes a total of 8!


Re ma sovaro milade?

It's a BIG HELLENIC world baby!