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What is their ethnicity?

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What is the ethnicity of those Cypriots who do not belong to the main Cypriot ethnic groups?

Arabic
3
25%
Kurdish
1
8%
Iranian
2
17%
Gypsy
5
42%
A mix of the above
1
8%
 
Total votes : 12

Re: What is their ethnicity?

Postby Maxx » Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:28 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Get Real! wrote:The very fine thread by which the Greek gymnasium theory hangs, is of a sudden arrival of multitudes of Mycenaeans to Cyprus! But of course there is not a shred of evidence to support that and it doesn't even follow logic...


It could not have happened because..

1.They did not need to. People don't wake up one morning and say... "What a jolly day... let us all move to Cyprus!".

2.They could’ve never agreed unanimously on such a mass transfer. Humans are not like birds who migrate unanimously following a pre-programmed instinct.

3.They would’ve never ignored 600Km of parallel Turkish coastline and opt for such a far away island most had never even heard of! Why is the huge Turkish coastline ignored?

4.Anyone who did manage to arrive on the shores of Cyprus and regardless of where they came from, would've been INSTANTLY absorbed and digested by the existing civilization.

Its easy to see the fantastical Greek propaganda because the world simply…

DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT! :lol:


You forget that the Mycenaeans, and other inhabitants of the now-known Greek world, were derived from the same group of people, spreading out by land and sea from thousands of years previously. They were known to each other because they were related (so few people around then) and co-operated, or fought, as they moved around, looking for farming sites. The fact that similar neolithic dwellings existed from as far flung as the now-known northern Greek world all the way down to Cyprus forms part of the continuum we include in ethnicity. The similarities continued, proven once written records were made, then with more familiar Greek-style temples erected in Cyprus, the participation during Byzantium etc - right up to the present day with the many extant cultural similarities we still maintain, but which irk recent invaders.


Go back far enough and everyone is related. Sure no problem with that. Adam and Eve and all that....

But what evidence do you bring to PROVE that the Mycenaeans have ethnic roots in Cyprus and why do you ignore the people that existed beforehand?

Your thesis is flawed because you are basically saying that the new world can't derive their own ethnicity and I am sure that they, being far more progressive than you, will beg to differ.

And what came first, the Greek Style temples in Cyprus or Greece? Maybe they are not "Greek" style temples but Cypriot temples, adopted by the Greeks making Cyprus THEIR mother. That would make Greece our problem child. :lol:

Who gave those barbarians a script?
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Re: What is their ethnicity?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:31 pm

You're seriously drowning! :D
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Re: What is their ethnicity?

Postby Maxx » Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:34 pm

I am a Cypriot islander and can swim really well actually. :)
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Re: What is their ethnicity?

Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:44 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:They were known to each other because they were related (so few people around then) and co-operated, or fought, as they moved around, looking for farming sites.

:shock: Why didn't I think of that! They were texting each other on their Blackberries!

"Hello? Is that you Achilles of Chios? It is I, your great friend Samson of Sparta!" :lol:

"I'm on my way to Cyprus to meet Iason of Paphos about those olives!" :lol:

Honestly! :roll:
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Re: What is their ethnicity?

Postby Maxx » Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:47 pm

Get Real! wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:They were known to each other because they were related (so few people around then) and co-operated, or fought, as they moved around, looking for farming sites.

:shock: Why didn't I think of that! They were texting each other on their Blackberries!

"Hello? Is that you Achilles of Chios? It is I, your great friend Samson of Sparta!" :lol:

"I'm on my way to Cyprus to meet Iason of Paphos about those olives!" :lol:

Honestly! :roll:


:lol:

That was bueatiful.
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Re: What is their ethnicity?

Postby Piratis » Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:37 pm

Get Real! wrote:The very fine thread by which the Greek gymnasium theory hangs, is of a sudden arrival of multitudes of Mycenaeans to Cyprus! But of course there is not a shred of evidence to support that and it doesn't even follow logic...


It was not sudden at all. The Mycenaeans kept coming for several centuries.


It could not have happened because..

1.They did not need to. People don't wake up one morning and say... "What a jolly day... let us all move to Cyprus!".


a. If humans didn't need to move then we would all still be living in Africa.
b. It was not something that happened "one morning" but something that happened over many years.
c. Not all of them moved to Cyprus.

2.They could’ve never agreed unanimously on such a mass transfer. Humans are not like birds who migrate unanimously following a pre-programmed instinct.


They didn't need to agree unanimously. Not everybody came to Cyprus, only those who wanted or those who for various reasons were forced to leave.

3.They would’ve never ignored 600Km of parallel Turkish coastline and opt for such a far away island most had never even heard of! Why is the huge Turkish coastline ignored?


The didn't ignore the "Turkish" coastline. (It was not Turkish back then). Hittites where quite powerful during that era but soon after Greek cities states were founded over the whole coast of Asia Minor.

4.Anyone who did manage to arrive on the shores of Cyprus and regardless of where they came from, would've been INSTANTLY absorbed and digested by the existing civilization.


That would be the case if the numbers of those who came were small and the population of Cyprus large. But the contrary was true. The population of Cyprus at that time was very little and most of the island was uninhabited. The Mycenaean gradually came in large numbers created several new cities and became the majority. Gradually the rest of the population was assimilated with the Mycenaean majority.
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Re: What is their ethnicity?

Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:04 pm

In the early 1800s the now Ottoman-liberated and jovial Greek and philhellene pseudo-historians were faced with a very serious dilemma!

How could modern “Greeks” claim continuity with ancient Greece if the Dorians (Slavs from the north of Greece) had invaded, massacred, and trashed the Mycenaeans to extinction? The evidence of which was everywhere and irrefutable!

Well, the answer to that was to PLANT some of these Mycenaeans at a SECONDARY “friendly” LOCATION (Cyprus - that would not resist to the idea) to stage a prolongation of the Mycenaean existence so that they could then pretend they had moved en masse and recuperated to make up for the lost “Hellenism”!

The fiendish scheme not only provided a convenient “Greek continuity” but it also claimed an additional territory that was further afar as “Greek”, thereby lending weight to the “Hellenic World” expansionistic aspiration.

And that pretty much sums up how and why the Greek embezzlement of the history of Cyprus took place!
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Re: What is their ethnicity?

Postby joe » Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:06 pm

Get Smart wrote:
What the hell is this bitz word? We need a Turkish translator please..... :roll:


Just ask your mother. :lol:
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Re: What is their ethnicity?

Postby joe » Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:09 pm

kingsaxon wrote:But you know what the last time I witnessed such ignorant ideological clap-trap was on Facebook and the threads on YoutUbe.


Who cares old man. Nobody here cares. :lol:
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Re: What is their ethnicity?

Postby joe » Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:10 pm

kingsaxon wrote:ps. Yes of course you are all Greeks!



Oh, now i'm offended. What a bitz. :lol:
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