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What is the ethnicity of those Cypriots who do not belong to the main Cypriot ethnic groups?

Arabic
3
25%
Kurdish
1
8%
Iranian
2
17%
Gypsy
5
42%
A mix of the above
1
8%
 
Total votes : 12

Re: What is their ethnicity?

Postby Maxx » Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:41 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:There are some uncanny parallels between the Choirokitian settlers and the Greek neolithic farmers - how they spread and how they lived. :)

Our common origins history goes back even further than the Mycenaean introduction would have you believe! :)

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According to historians and archeological findings, the Neolithic Age in Greece lasted from 6800 to 3200 BC. The most domesticated settlements were in Near East of Greece. They traveled mainly due to overpopulation. These people introduced pottery and animal husbandry in Greece. They may as well have traveled via the route of Black sea into Thrace, which then further leads to Macedonia, Thessaly, Boeotia etc. The second way of traveling into Greece is from one island to another and such type of colonies has been found in Knossos and Kythnos.

The main characteristics of this era are the climate stabilization and the settlements of people. The Neolithic Revolution arrives with these people who traveled from Anatolia, Turkey. The economy of the region became steady with organized and methodical farming, stock rearing and, bartering and sculptures like pottery. People stopped traveling from region to region and permanent settlements in Greece. They domesticated animals like sheep and goats and grew plants and crops. They made their bases around sites where there was ample water supply and in open landscapes. The Neolithic Greece people can be said as the first 'farmers' and their lives were less complex and simple.
Archeological findings show more settlements in Northern Greece, like Thessaly and Sesklo. Villages were found in Thessaly around 6500 BC while settlements in Sesklo started in 5500 BC. The inhabitants of these areas couldn't have been more than a hundred people. The houses were made of stone foundations with a roof made of a thick layer of clay and timber. They were one-room houses measuring 10 to 50 square metres.
A small village was also found at an area called Nea Nikomedia, where people resided around 5800 BC. The houses were made of sticks and mud surrounded by fences.
http://www.ancientgreece.com/s/Neolithic/


This just insinuates that those that identify as "Greek" are closely related to Turks, Albanians and Slavs.

All Ottoman Remnants need to be westernised towards Cypriotness. You are all just just bastardised Ottomans that learned to speak Cypriot. :lol:
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Re: What is their ethnicity?

Postby Piratis » Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:50 am

Get Real! wrote:No jelly brains! It goes Phoenician -> Cypriot -> Greek


You are confusing language with the alphabet again. Phoenician is an Afro-Asiatic language, Greek is Indo-European. It is not even possible to derive one from another.

You are probably referring to the alphabet:
By the mid-9th century B.C., when the Phoenicians began living in Cyprus, the Greek scribes were entrenched in using the Cypriot syllabic script. Woodard believes some scribes became interested in the Phoenician script, which didn't use vowel characters at all. "The Greeks acquired the Phoenician script at some point and converted it into the Greek alphabet," he says. "My contention is that it happened on Cyprus, when the Greeks and Phoenicians were living next door to each other. The setting was right, and there was close cultural contact.

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 151297.php

Note that Cypriots were already Greek by the time that Phoenicians arrived and the Greeks on this island (i.e. Cypriots) adapted the Phoenician alphabet for their own language (i.e. Greek).

I just wonder how many people take seriously the uneducated bollocks that are spouted by those following the Turko-British agenda of de-Hellenizing Cyprus. Some of them are English or Turkish themselves and they do so in order to serve their own interests on our expense. But what is the excuse of those few Cypriots that actually believe and reproduce such nonsense?
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Re: What is their ethnicity?

Postby Maxx » Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:52 am

joe wrote:
kingsaxon wrote: additionally Greeks is a latter term. Mycenaeans were not Greeks,


This has got to be the third. What a bunch of revisionist malarky. Why are you so jealous for "King" Saxon? You honestly think anyone here is going to change their thinking because of a filthy Saxon told them to? King Saxon, nice name but its seemingly self-contradictory. Not in this forum, bitz.


OMG, now do you all believe me that you are just a bunch of uneducated Ottoman gypsies.

What the hell is this bitz word? We need a Turkish translator please..... :roll:
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Re: What is their ethnicity?

Postby kingsaxon » Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:35 pm

Get Smart wrote:
joe wrote:
kingsaxon wrote: additionally Greeks is a latter term. Mycenaeans were not Greeks,


This has got to be the third. What a bunch of revisionist malarky. Why are you so jealous for "King" Saxon? You honestly think anyone here is going to change their thinking because of a filthy Saxon told them to? King Saxon, nice name but its seemingly self-contradictory. Not in this forum, bitz.


OMG, now do you all believe me that you are just a bunch of uneducated Ottoman gypsies.

What the hell is this bitz word? We need a Turkish translator please..... :roll:


If you can't have a grown-up and sensible discussion then sod off. My profile name doesn't mean anything. Its a parody - But as someone like you, the people in general supporting this ethnic nationalist clap trap and referring to me as......"filthy Saxon"...you have actually lowered yourself to the level of mere insults. Ethnicity is a pure invention. Ethnic nationalism, you the perpetrators of this myth that has been propounded for the past 200 years!

So evidently its your racism versus my purported revisionism. Better sounding than a bunch of neo-Social Darwinists. I merely pointed out well researched information something you appear to be lacking in your arsenal...So far your strongest argument has been insults "arrogant" and "filthy SAxon". Good luck on the Front Line because with this attitude you won't last long. I am assuming that in the name of so-called Greek-~Cypriot Nationalism you intend to prove the legitimacy of The Greek-Cypriot race possibly by the whole sale elimination of all others including us polyethnics (of course all of you are of one ethnicity).

But you know what the last time I witnessed such ignorant ideological clap-trap was on Facebook and the threads on YoutUbe. Maybe you should stick to those kind of forums because they hover just around your age range as no mature educated person would engage in debate the way that you guys have (excluding those on here who have not taken you seriously and have supplanted you with humour). On that note you won't here from me again in these discussions unless I am protecting zee fatherland. Heil Hitler! [salutes].
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Re: What is their ethnicity?

Postby kingsaxon » Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:37 pm

ps. Yes of course you are all Greeks!
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Re: What is their ethnicity?

Postby Maxx » Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:58 pm

kingsaxon wrote:
Get Smart wrote:
joe wrote:
kingsaxon wrote: additionally Greeks is a latter term. Mycenaeans were not Greeks,


This has got to be the third. What a bunch of revisionist malarky. Why are you so jealous for "King" Saxon? You honestly think anyone here is going to change their thinking because of a filthy Saxon told them to? King Saxon, nice name but its seemingly self-contradictory. Not in this forum, bitz.


OMG, now do you all believe me that you are just a bunch of uneducated Ottoman gypsies.

What the hell is this bitz word? We need a Turkish translator please..... :roll:


If you can't have a grown-up and sensible discussion then sod off. My profile name doesn't mean anything. Its a parody - But as someone like you, the people in general supporting this ethnic nationalist clap trap and referring to me as......"filthy Saxon"...you have actually lowered yourself to the level of mere insults. Ethnicity is a pure invention. Ethnic nationalism, you the perpetrators of this myth that has been propounded for the past 200 years!

So evidently its your racism versus my purported revisionism. Better sounding than a bunch of neo-Social Darwinists. I merely pointed out well researched information something you appear to be lacking in your arsenal...So far your strongest argument has been insults "arrogant" and "filthy SAxon". Good luck on the Front Line because with this attitude you won't last long. I am assuming that in the name of so-called Greek-~Cypriot Nationalism you intend to prove the legitimacy of The Greek-Cypriot race possibly by the whole sale elimination of all others including us polyethnics (of course all of you are of one ethnicity).

But you know what the last time I witnessed such ignorant ideological clap-trap was on Facebook and the threads on YoutUbe. Maybe you should stick to those kind of forums because they hover just around your age range as no mature educated person would engage in debate the way that you guys have (excluding those on here who have not taken you seriously and have supplanted you with humour). On that note you won't here from me again in these discussions unless I am protecting zee fatherland. Heil Hitler! [salutes].


Think you got the wrong person.

Never mentioned anything about your name or make any aspersions against you!

Was actually going to comment on your excellent posting. Your intelligence may be beyond most Greek ottoman remnants here, as they have the IQ of a porcupine, but it is not lost on Cypriot nationalists who are beyond their Eastern ways. :wink:

Yes, I am a Cypriot nationalist! Not a Greek Cypriot Nationalist. I find your error most insulting.

So Heil Cyprus!!!!!!!

And it is your lucky day. You have come across our movement which is all inclusive and non devisive. Even you would be welcome within our warm embrace provided you love Cyprus enough to never undermine it or its future inhabitants. Our nationalism is bi partisan, includes Christians, Muslims, Atheists, feminists....you name it. Only one thing is important, a love for our country and culture, by denying all the enemies of cyprus who undermine her with their insecure "motherland" antics which will only create division amongst our people, and play in the hands of the partitionist fascists.
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Re: What is their ethnicity?

Postby Maxx » Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:21 pm

kingsaxon wrote:ps. Yes of course you are all Greeks!


See what I mean!

excellent posting King Saxon. This one is truly a gem! :)
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Re: What is their ethnicity?

Postby DooDaDoo » Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:41 pm

Hermes wrote:Do you not know what it means that the Cypriot syllabary begets the Greek alphabet which in turn replaces the Cypriot syllabary?


As the article and other people have mentioned, the Greek alphabet was derived from the Phoenician abjad. The Cypriot syllabary died out. The origins of that script are unclear but according to one theory, it was derived from the Cypro-Minoan scripts in use on the island (and Syria) in the preceding centuries, so we see Aegean influence again.

It's pretty fun watching Piratis-Hermes-GIG destroy the opposition. :mrgreen:
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Re: What is their ethnicity?

Postby Maxx » Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:53 pm

DooDaDoo wrote:
Hermes wrote:Do you not know what it means that the Cypriot syllabary begets the Greek alphabet which in turn replaces the Cypriot syllabary?


As the article and other people have mentioned, the Greek alphabet was derived from the Phoenician abjad. The Cypriot syllabary died out. The origins of that script are unclear but according to one theory, it was derived from the Cypro-Minoan scripts in use on the island (and Syria) in the preceding centuries, so we see Aegean influence again.

It's pretty fun watching Piratis-Hermes-GIG destroy the opposition. :mrgreen:


GIG just can't make her mind up. She is on the fence and if she is not careful, she will do herself great harm. :lol:

Our victory is inevitable. Remember that!
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Re: What is their ethnicity?

Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:54 pm

DooDaDoo wrote:The Cypriot syllabary died out....

Your grandparents may have also “died out” but that doesn’t mean you no longer remember, respect, and honor them…
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