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[yialousa1971]

Do you know for how many years gnosis existed on Cyprus before “Greece” or anything “Greek” surfaced?

That's why unca kurupetos insists Cyprus is the core of Hellenism.

Fool!

http://www.ancientscripts.com/ws_timeline.html

Scroll down to where it says “Europe” and see that Cypriot existed since 1500BC as opposed to Greek 800BC!

Now use your intelligence to figure out which must’ve come from which…

From your link:-

Most early writing systems have their origins in iconographic systems and likewise Cretan Hieroglyphs most likely evolved out of non-linguistic symbols on sealstones from the late 3rd and early 2nd millenium BCE. Cretan Hieroglyphs was the first writing of the Minoans and predecessor to Linear A, which in turn gave rise to Linear B and Cypriot. Its relationship to the script of the Phaistos Disc is unknown, however there are many theories proposing some kind of relationship mainly based on the similarity of some of the signs.

In addition, Linear A is even more similar to Linear B, the writing system of Mycenaean Greeks.

[Get Real!]

So from all you’ve studied which came first?

Greek or Cypriot?

[yialousa1971]

So from all you’ve studied which came first?

Greek or Cypriot?

Neither as they are both the same.

[Get Real!]

So from all you’ve studied which came first?

Greek or Cypriot?

Neither as they are both the same.

So you see no gap difference in gnosis?

Mmmm...

[yialousa1971]

The great sea traders were the Minoans!

Do the great Egyptian pharaohs mention the Minoans anywhere in their hieroglyphics?

Men from Keftiu with gifts to a Pharaoh ( 1479 - 1426 BC) from a grave decoration, Thebes in Egypt, may represent Minoans or Mycenaeans

Although the tomb of Rekhmire is the earliest actually to label certain figures as
“Keftiu,” there is general agreement among scholars that all of the tombs listed here illustrate
Aegean natives, depicted as tribute-bearers bringing offerings to pharaoh. These figures share
certain characteristics: they are slim, often with waists that are narrower than those of the
Egyptians in the same paintings; they have long hair, sometimes with curls over the forehead
or crown and strands trailing over the shoulders and down the back; they sometimes wear
sandals with pointed toes;18 and many of them carry metal vases that are recognizable as
Aegean products because related vessels have been found in archaeological contexts on the
mainland and in Crete.
The earlier paintings, from the tombs of Senenmut, Antef, and Useramun, show
individuals dressed in a stylized version of the Minoan breechcloth with codpiece and
backf lap. The later paintings in the tombs of Rekhmire and Menkheperresoneb show Keftiu
in kilts that resemble those in the Procession Fresco from the palace at Knossos. From an
Aegean standpoint, the most important figures occur in the tomb of Rekhmire, vizier from
late in the reign of Thutmose III to early in the reign of Amenhotep II.

There, a group of Keftiu was originally painted wearing breechcloths with codpieces and backf laps; after these
figures had already been completed, the garments were repainted as kilts.19 The codpieces
are visible as pentimenti under the kilts. Some of the vessels carried by these figures were also
repainted “but were not altered in their typological character.”20
A conventional Egyptian date of ca. 1450 BC for the Keftiu paintings in the tomb of
Rekhmire (Hayes’ CAH chronology) coincides with the end of the pottery phases LM I B/LH
IIA according to the traditional high Aegean chronology.21 And, since LM IB marks the
widespread destructions across the island of Crete which some have attributed to the actions
of Mycenaean invaders, the change in costume in the Egyptian paintings could ref lect changes
in the balance of power between Crete and the mainland, if the costumes were diagnostic of
their respective cultures.22

http://www2.ulg.ac.be/archgrec/IMG/aegeum/aegaeum18(pdf)/10%20Rehak.pdf

[Get Real!]

The great sea traders were the Minoans!

Do the great Egyptian pharaohs mention the Minoans anywhere in their hieroglyphics?

Men from Keftiu with gifts to a Pharaoh ( 1479 - 1426 BC) from a grave decoration, Thebes in Egypt, may represent Minoans or Mycenaeans

So who is guessing the most? You or the author?

Have you any idea what Cyprus meant to the entire Mediterranean and of course ancient Egypt Yialoser?

[yialousa1971]

The great sea traders were the Minoans!

Do the great Egyptian pharaohs mention the Minoans anywhere in their hieroglyphics?

Men from Keftiu with gifts to a Pharaoh ( 1479 - 1426 BC) from a grave decoration, Thebes in Egypt, may represent Minoans or Mycenaeans

So who is guessing the most? You or the author?

Have you any idea what Cyprus meant to the entire Mediterranean and of course ancient Egypt Yialoser?

This is why you're such a fool when it comes debating anything.

[Get Real!]

Cyprus, was the supplier of copper and ivory to Egypt and other kingdoms for HUNDREDS of years before anything “Greek” even surfaced!

The Cypriots had a well established LANGUAGE and barter (later coinage) system that enabled trade at a time when “Greeks” were unheard of cave people mumbling to each other about a lost boar!

Copper findings at Pella originating from Anatolia and Cyprus also indicate significant economic, social and political development at a time as early as Mesopotamia and predating the reign of Egyptian pharaohs, Bourke said.
The discovery of Cypriot copper even led experts to believe that ancient Cyprus began exporting copper in 2500BC, 300 years earlier than previously thought.

http://www.jordantimes.com/index.php?news=26973

[yialousa1971]

Cyprus, was the supplier of copper and ivory to Egypt and other kingdoms for HUNDREDS of years before anything “Greek” even surfaced!

The Cypriots had a well established LANGUAGE and barter (later coinage) system that enabled trade at a time when “Greeks” were unheard of cave people mumbling to each other about a lost boar!

Copper findings at Pella originating from Anatolia and Cyprus also indicate significant economic, social and political development at a time as early as Mesopotamia and predating the reign of Egyptian pharaohs, Bourke said.
The discovery of Cypriot copper even led experts to believe that ancient Cyprus began exporting copper in 2500BC, 300 years earlier than previously thought.

http://www.jordantimes.com/index.php?news=26973

Egypt imported ivory from Cyprus.

[yialousa1971]

Late Bronze Age, 12th century BC
From Tomb 58, Enkomi, Cyprus

The 'game of twenty squares'

Ivory carving flourished in Cyprus in the twelfth century BC, with a rich mixture of influences from Mycenaean Greece and from the East. The ivory itself must have been imported from Egypt or Syria.

This gaming box has its top laid out for a board game; the playing pieces were probably kept inside. The layout is for the 'game of twenty squares', which had a long history: similar game boxes were used in Ur in the third millennium BC, and Egypt of the New Kingdom (about 1550-1070 BC). Sadly, though, we do not know how the game was played.

The box is beautifully carved, and must have been a rare and valuable object. The sides of the box are decorated with animal scenes and scenes of the hunt. On the best-preserved of the two long sides a figure, perhaps a king, stands in a chariot drawing his bow. His charioteer controls the pair of horses pulling the light, two-wheeled chariot, while behind him a man on foot carries an axe, presumably to despatch any wounded prey. A third hunter, on the extreme left, stabs a lion with his spear. Five animals, apparently a mixture of deer, wild goats and bulls, flee the hunters, but a third, larger bull, pierced by an arrow, has turned with his head down to charge the oncoming chariot. A large bird is shown over the horses' backs, and a hunting dog runs beside the horses.

The style of this hunting scene, and the similar, though rather less well-preserved scene on the other side, show a strong influence from Western Asia. In contrast, the ends of the box are very Mycenaean Greek in style, one showing a pair of bulls sitting quietly in front of a tree; the other two goats flanking a central tree.

V. Tatton-Brown, Ancient Cyprus, 2nd ed. (London, The British Museum Press, 1997)

http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/highlight_objects/gr/i/ivory_game_box.aspx