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Sener Levent's Solution Proposals

Postby Hermes » Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:31 pm

Three steps for a solution to ending the Turkish occupation. As told to the delegation of the High Level Contact Group of the European Parliament for the Turkish Cypriots by Sener Levent - editor in chief of Afrika newspaper:

1. Referring to the fenced off city of Varoshia, Sener said that Varoshia should open before the solution of the Cyprus problem.

2. Concerning the guarantorship issue, Sener Levent stressed that the guarantees of the EU are enough for the solution of the Cyprus problem and underlined that no other guarantees are necessary.

3. Sener further stated that the better and the easiest solution to the Cyprus problem is the return to the partnership based on the London and Zurich agreements.


As reported here: http://www.hri.org/news/cyprus/tcpr/201 ... .tcpr.html
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Re: Sener Levent's Solution Proposals

Postby Get Real! » Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:58 pm

Hermes wrote:3. Sener further stated that the better and the easiest solution to the Cyprus problem is the return to the partnership based on the London and Zurich agreements.[/b]

Sener, is just another partitionist dressed in Sheep’s clothing!

Anyone who supports that the governance of a country be carried out by ethnic groups in a proportional or disproportional manner is a partionist by default!
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Re: Sener Levent's Solution Proposals

Postby Get Real! » Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:06 am

The most primitive political trap highly taught at the CIAs “Debauchery 101” classes, is the formation of governments based on ethnicities.
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Re: Sener Levent's Solution Proposals

Postby Hermes » Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:20 am

Get Real! wrote:
Hermes wrote:3. Sener further stated that the better and the easiest solution to the Cyprus problem is the return to the partnership based on the London and Zurich agreements.[/b]

Sener, is just another partitionist dressed in Sheep’s clothing!

Anyone who supports that the governance of a country be carried out by ethnic groups in a proportional or disproportional manner is a partionist by default!


The return to the flawed 1960 agreement seems a weird one. A kind of nostalgia for the times before the disastrous policies of Denktash and his Turkish masters throughout the 1960s led the TCs into self-imposed isolation and withdrawal from the ROC government. It signals a failure of even some moderate TCs to look forward to a truly democratic solution. I can't disagree with the first two proposals though.
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Re: Sener Levent's Solution Proposals

Postby Get Real! » Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:26 am

Well it goes without saying that territory has to be handed back sooner or later, and that “guarantors” just like ethnically based governments don’t work!

It's not like Levent has said anything that hasn't already been said a million times!
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Re: Sener Levent's Solution Proposals

Postby Hermes » Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:46 am

Get Real! wrote:Well it goes without saying that territory has to be handed back sooner or later, and that “guarantors” just like ethnically based governments don’t work!

It's not like Levent has said anything that hasn't already been said a million times!


Eroglu and Erdogan aren't saying it. They're saying the opposite. Someone has to say it to the EU Parliament apparatchiks. Maybe one day the EU will say it because they're saying bugger all at the moment.
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Re: Sener Levent's Solution Proposals

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:34 am

Cyprus is a member of the EU, based on what Constitution?

...the one by these terms that we need to reform.

Sener Levent is no where near a partitionist, he deserves the support we can give him...

...who bombs his paper Afrika, us?
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Re: Sener Levent's Solution Proposals

Postby Capt J Sparrow » Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:47 am

repulsewarrior wrote:Cyprus is a member of the EU, based on what Constitution?

...the one by these terms that we need to reform.

Sener Levent is no where near a partitionist, he deserves the support we can give him...

...who bombs his paper Afrika, us?


Agreed!

We should support this man more. Good point.
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Re: Sener Levent's Solution Proposals

Postby Hermes » Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:11 am

repulsewarrior wrote:Cyprus is a member of the EU, based on what Constitution?

...the one by these terms that we need to reform.

Sener Levent is no where near a partitionist, he deserves the support we can give him...

...who bombs his paper Afrika, us?


I agree that he's no partitionist. This man has had to endure imprisonment, torture, beatings and assassination attempts for criticising the occupation regime. He is a sworn enemy of the Turkish occupation authorities and deserves respect.

Interesting he thinks a return to the 1960 partnership agreements is better for the TCs than a BBF. On reflection, I think this is a call not for a return to the past but a realisation that Turkish Cypriots need to seek a European solution through participation in a unified national Cypriot government. If so, it's a bold move for a TC. But I don't think Levent's bravery has ever been in question...
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Re: Sener Levent's Solution Proposals

Postby wyoming cowboy » Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:44 am

Hermes wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:Cyprus is a member of the EU, based on what Constitution?

...the one by these terms that we need to reform.

Sener Levent is no where near a partitionist, he deserves the support we can give him...

...who bombs his paper Afrika, us?


I agree that he's no partitionist. This man has had to endure imprisonment, torture, beatings and assassination attempts for criticising the occupation regime. He is a sworn enemy of the Turkish occupation authorities and deserves respect.

Interesting he thinks a return to the 1960 partnership agreements is better for the TCs than a BBF. On reflection, I think this is a call not for a return to the past but a realisation that Turkish Cypriots need to seek a European solution through participation in a unified national Cypriot government. If so, it's a bold move for a TC. But I don't think Levent's bravery has ever been in question...



opportunities lost is what it means to go back to the 60 agreements, obviously some tc's regret their attitude in the mid 60's and keep wondering what could have been. on the other hand a no ethnicity constitution with all rights guaranteed by the european union, and a serious upgrade of the judicial system of cyprus might be the best solution for cyprus.
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