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[Lordo]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... sfeed=true

The plight of the Negev’s Bedouin
The oldest inhabitants of the Negev may be forced to relocate under Israel’s new land ownership plan

regarding Israeli governemnt plans to forcibly remove its Arab citizens from the Negev, allegedly so that it can settle more jews there instead.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... sfeed=true

Here is a quote from the report:

“The Bedouin are the indigenous owner-occupiers of the Negev – they have been there for thousands of years. Since 1948 Israel has built dozens of Jewish towns, villages, kibbutzim and farms while pushing the Bedouin into ever smaller enclaves. In Rahat, for example, there are 52,000 Bedouin living on 21,000 acres, while the regional council of Bnei-Shimon covers 440,000 acres and is home to just 6,000 Jews.”

The question that I would ask is: how reliable an ally can a country that treats its own citizens in this way really be?

[CBBB]

As with all alliances, very reliable when they have something to gain.

[Piratis]

“The Bedouin are the indigenous owner-occupiers of the Negev – they have been there for thousands of years. Since 1948 Israel has built dozens of Jewish towns, villages, kibbutzim and farms while pushing the Bedouin into ever smaller enclaves. In Rahat, for example, there are 52,000 Bedouin living on 21,000 acres, while the regional council of Bnei-Shimon covers 440,000 acres and is home to just 6,000 Jews.”

The question that I would ask is: how reliable an ally can a country that treats its own citizens in this way really be?

The Turkish Cypriots are the ones who can answer that question since they have experience of several decades of collaborating with Turkey, a state that ethnically cleansed the native population of the north part of Cyprus (who have been there for thousands of years), replacing them with Anatolian Settlers who have nothing whatsoever to do with Cyprus.

Not only that, but the Turks have massacred 10s of thousands of Kurds, while not so long ago they committed genocides of millions against Armenians and all other Christian people of Asia minor. (Kurds, Armenians, Greeks etc have been inhabiting Asia minor for thousands of years, the Turks did not.)

So Turkish Cypriots, how reliable of an ally is Turkey to you? If Turkey, which is many times worst than Israel, can be reliable ally to you, then surly Israel can be a reliable ally to us.

[Capt J Sparrow]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/oct/05/bedouin-negev-israel?newsfeed=true

The plight of the Negev’s Bedouin
The oldest inhabitants of the Negev may be forced to relocate under Israel’s new land ownership plan

regarding Israeli governemnt plans to forcibly remove its Arab citizens from the Negev, allegedly so that it can settle more jews there instead.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... sfeed=true

Here is a quote from the report:

“The Bedouin are the indigenous owner-occupiers of the Negev – they have been there for thousands of years. Since 1948 Israel has built dozens of Jewish towns, villages, kibbutzim and farms while pushing the Bedouin into ever smaller enclaves. In Rahat, for example, there are 52,000 Bedouin living on 21,000 acres, while the regional council of Bnei-Shimon covers 440,000 acres and is home to just 6,000 Jews.”

The question that I would ask is: how reliable an ally can a country that treats its own citizens in this way really be?

You are better off accepting this.....

with enemies like this (Turkey), we need friends like that (Israel).

Because, let me remind you of something. Turkey has invaded and ethnically cleansed the northern part of Cyprus. It has colonised it with its own settlers.

Turkey also has committed far worst crimes against 20 million Kurds.

But you have come to a Cypriot forum to remind us that Israel has committed crimes as well. Well this may be true, but there is little that Cyprus can do.

But everyone wants to get a piece of my country, and in this bad neighborhood, we need friends that we can rely on in order to survive. Sure, there is something in it for Israel as well. But, my little tiny homeland can feel safer and more secure as well as exploit its natural wealth with a country like Israel on its side. Who knows, Israel may also be the catalyst that will put an end to the occupation.

So give me Israel any day. I can rely on them! I can't rely on Greece or anyone else in this rough neighborhood.

Cyprus and Israel are now allies. Together, they need to face the big bad wolf to the north.

And with potentially vast amounts of Gas south of Cyprus, a future pipeline connecting Israel, Cyprus and Western Europe, and a processing plant in Cyprus, I think Israel is going to be the most reliable ally Cyprus has ever had. Israel will be our best friend.

[ZoC]

I think Israel is going to be the most reliable ally Cyprus has ever had. Israel will be our best friend.

yes... so don't f*ck with us, schmuck. (not u cap'n)...

[Bananiot]

Oh dear, how quickly we forget our stated principles in order to pursue our so called national interests. Disgraceful Piratis, shame on you! You came hear and you inflamed all of us with your fake principles lectures and told us that the world is all about principles, but now you switch allegiance and the Palestinians that we rightly supported for so long can now go to hell. We saw ourselves in the Palestinians but now what is good for us is bad for them. Let Israel wipe them out ... don't ever talk to us about principles Piratis, do you hear?

[Capt J Sparrow]

Oh dear, how quickly we forget our stated principles in order to pursue our so called national interests. Disgraceful Piratis, shame on you! You came hear and you inflamed all of us with your fake principles lectures and told us that the world is all about principles, but now you switch allegiance and the Palestinians that we rightly supported for so long can now go to hell. We saw ourselves in the Palestinians but now what is good for us is bad for them. Let Israel wipe them out ... don't ever talk to us about principles Piratis, do you hear?

Let me just make it very clear, that I am a Pirate and hence I am a dishonest man, and a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest! Honestly, its the honest ones youneed to watch out for, because you never know when they are going to do something incredibly .....stupid!

Isn't that right lordos?

[Bananiot]

But surely you know the story of god giving feathers to ants ... ?

[Capt J Sparrow]

But surely you know the story of god giving feathers to ants ... ?

Right now, I am familiar with the story of Israel and Cypriot friendship.

For once we have an ally. Why are you upset?

[ZoC]

But surely you know the story of god giving feathers to ants ... ?

but surely u know the story of god giving the self-flagellation whip to the sanctimonious martyr ... ?