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have the tcs understand the prediciment they are in

Postby boomerang » Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:35 am

have the tcs really, ever understood the prediciment they find themselves in?...or are they of the belief the whole wide world is conspiring against them?...

the way i see it, they are crumbling...it started with their building sector, which they had no problem exploiting other peoples properties...but the gas business has forever changed the cause of history...they went from a position of strength the last 37 years to now turkey and themselves in a position of weakness...lets leave the turkey rattling out of it...turkey has been cornered in all this...ultimatums and bravado no longer work, unless you are the US, when it comes to commerce and control of hydrocarbons...the line in the sand is indeed clear...the US went to war 2 times, iraq and recently libya, to gain control, and in no way known the roc hydrocarbons are any exception to that...now enter the EU...they are not going to allow turkey/tcs to screw up one of the biggest finds the last 10 years when it can feed europe the next 50 years...and we are talking just block 12...how about the other blocks...if all this is materialised, the roc will be powering the EU with gas and with money...now what kind of slack the tcs/turks are going to get out of all this?...as it stands now the only available tcs option is amendments to the roc constitution...as i said the game has shifted...a new reality on the ground as we are always reminded of constant ground realities...

have the tcs ever thought of the consequences in all this?...not really...they are being led by turkey by the neck....turkey new she was not going to get her own way on the roc EEZ, so she opted for military armaments instead, but in the mean time the tcs got nothing...

in the mean time lets rejoice what the turks are feeding the tcs...
Davutoğlu said Turkey’s position on this is very clear: It is against the international law to unilaterally start drilling activities without completing UN-mediated peace talks between Turkish and Greek Cypriots.
http://www.todayszaman.com/news-259001-davutoglu-all-resources-of-island-belong-to-all-cypriots.html


“EU countries must stop the Greek Cypriots’ refusal to open the energy chapter,” Bağış told reporters during a meeting with the French Ambassador to Turkey Laurent Bili.
http://www.todayszaman.com/news-258987-eu-should-pressure-greek-cyprus-on-energy.html


and everynow and then you get someone to report on the unreported... :lol:
The fact that the ship is so old and, more importantly, that it has not been upgraded to meet today's technological standards, has drawn criticism in Turkey.

Similarly, in the case of the Piri Reis seismic research ship, it has recently been discovered that Turkey has neither modernized the vessel, nor replaced it with a new one.

On the other hand, we have discovered from the gas and oil exploration crisis with the Greek Cypriots that the seismic research ship Piri Reis dispatched to the eastern Mediterranean to create fear and deter the Greek Cypriots from a fait accompli has not been upgraded with advanced technology.

http://www.todayszaman.com/columnist-258261-turkeys-ill-advised-arms-buying-policy.html

so in other words the seismic tests are just farts, annoying the shit out of the surrounding crustaceans...but the tcs are fed a different story...


the game has been lost and the tcs better start looking out for themselves, or maybe all this complacency has turn them it to eunuchs...no ones knows the bounds of irrational minds...they declare a state, via ethnic cleansing with all the the trimmings of '"borders"...signing agreements with turkey with all sorts of bullshit, read jokes to most people and now they are staking a claim in waters far away as a right as cypriots...how can anyone take them serious is beyond belief...

on a sidenote, have the turks informed the tcs there is nothing they can do and all this is posturing?...

so yes the tcs are very greedy...not all but a great majority of them, including halil that supports all natural resources belong to all cypriots...I am fine with this notion, but and there is a big but that halil and all halil minded people, think it's their god given right to ethnically cleanse population, hold them to ransom the last 37 years, and not only claim resources on top but underneath as well...doesn't really this mentally endorses the notion, what's mine is mine and what's yours is mine...also they forget the roc will never give the north any money...the money, sharing with tcs will be done at the roc...

also someone better remind the tcs, there is a new reality on the ground that needs to be taken into context with solving the cyprob...as they keep on reminding us...

i just do not feel pres x is doing enough in these talks...he is rather led in making reactionary comments that have far reaching future consequences...

the best course for cyprus is for the president to resign and early elections in Jan-Feb slowing down the unification pace till we have a clearer picture on the hydrocarbons and getting closer to the EU presidency...this will further expose and corner turkey in many ways...this will enrage the tcs, but this action will also be beneficial to them in many ways...

the largerest trump card the roc is currently holding is another half a dozen blocks that contain vast amounts of hydrocarbons...block 12 is just the start...now you know why the turks/tcs are screaming...

so yes once again the tcs are greedy...and halil can rejoice in the thought of turning turks into new tcs...a regular samarian... :lol:
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Re: have the tcs understand the prediciment they are in

Postby bill cobbett » Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:54 am

Yes and if Block 12 comes up with the goods and although it'll be some years 'til the gas starts flowing, the bonanza starts as early as next Spring with the next round of auctions for the next blocks and there's a lot of interest from other oil companies wanting to jump on to the CY karotsi.

For instance Triple 5 is reported to be willing to pay 80 million dollars for an exploration licence .


From http://www.financialmirror.com/research ... 62&rt=News ...

..."Energy industry experts suggest that a fresh round of bidding could produce far better results than the first time in 2007 when little interest pushed the government to nearly abandon all interest in oil and gas exploration.

... "Already, “Triple 5” was reportedly ready to pay a signature bonus of 80 mln dollars to the Cyprus government just to have access to two of the offshore blocks. "...
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Re: have the tcs understand the prediciment they are in

Postby ZoC » Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:00 am

bill cobbett wrote:
..."Energy industry experts suggest that a fresh round of bidding could produce far better results than the first time in 2007 when little interest pushed the government to nearly abandon all interest in oil and gas exploration.


it's all that free publicity turkey's been giving cyprus.
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