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Re: Israeli Jet Fighters Overfly Occupied CY and Turkish Coa

Postby Nikitas » Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:43 pm

Defend herself how exactly?

Take the example of a daily occurrence, Turkish jets overfly Agathonisi island. The event lasts a few seconds, the island is tiny. You shoot down the offending jet and it will fall in international waters, and you have zero support from the international community (who supply you with spare prats etc).

There is rarely any violation of air space which can be answered "dynamically" in a way which will provide unequivocal proof of a violation. On the rare events when there was such a violation, ie in eastern Crete and over Skyros, the outcome was not a happy one for the offenders. Same goes for the cynical exploitation of the rules of innocent passage. But when a sub violated the rules it was forced to choose between surfacing and identifying itself or running out of air. So the response is not as limp wristed as it looks.

It would be helpful to take a look at the map and see the length of the line of possible conflict, it stretches from Ormenio in the north to Kastellorizo in the south and inevitbly would extend to Famagusta if things get rough. Upping the ante involves being rady for a clash along a thousand mile line of confrontation. It is not a decision that can be taken lightly.
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Re: Israeli Jet Fighters Overfly Occupied CY and Turkish Coa

Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:53 pm

Greece will only show her determination to defend herself when she downs a Turkish violator.

Not "lock on", not "chase", and not "complain", but DOWN!

Until that time comes we don't want to hear any more pitiful excuses because we've all had a gutful!
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Re: Israeli Jet Fighters Overfly Occupied CY and Turkish Coa

Postby ZoC » Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:10 pm

Nikitas wrote:Defend herself how exactly?

Take the example of a daily occurrence, Turkish jets overfly Agathonisi island. The event lasts a few seconds, the island is tiny. You shoot down the offending jet and it will fall in international waters, and you have zero support from the international community (who supply you with spare prats etc).


not sure greece is in the market for any more spare prats; they being the one natural resource she has in abundance.
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Re: Israeli Jet Fighters Overfly Occupied CY and Turkish Coa

Postby Nikitas » Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:54 pm

A tripping keyboard speaks the truth, LOL
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Re: Israeli Jet Fighters Overfly Occupied CY and Turkish Coa

Postby kurupetos » Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:15 pm

Get Real! wrote:
kurupetos wrote:I think the Turks will move their illegalities in the Aegean from now on because of the Israelis. More trouble for our little sister Greece. :cry:

Good! Maybe Greece should get a spine and start defending herself! :roll:

We can sign up as her guarantors. :lol:
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Re: Israeli Jet Fighters Overfly Occupied CY and Turkish Coa

Postby bill cobbett » Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:49 pm

Just a little reminder that the dispute that Turkey is trying to provoke isn't just about any poss oil/gas in CY waters, it's also about a future pipeline that will supply Europe with Israeli gas through CY and GR waters and international waters, huge proven reserves of gas that are already being extracted.

Israel has a massive national interest in getting its gas to Europe without interference from Turkey.
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Re: Israeli Jet Fighters Overfly Occupied CY and Turkish Coa

Postby kurupetos » Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:02 pm

ZoC wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Defend herself how exactly?

Take the example of a daily occurrence, Turkish jets overfly Agathonisi island. The event lasts a few seconds, the island is tiny. You shoot down the offending jet and it will fall in international waters, and you have zero support from the international community (who supply you with spare prats etc).


not sure greece is in the market for any more spare prats; they being the one natural resource she has in abundance.

And what is the CY community in London doing at the meantime? Sleeping, drinking and farting as usual? :evil:
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Re: Israeli Jet Fighters Overfly Occupied CY and Turkish Coa

Postby Hermes » Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:06 pm

bill cobbett wrote:Just a little reminder that the dispute that Turkey is trying to provoke isn't just about any poss oil/gas in CY waters, it's also about a future pipeline that will supply Europe with Israeli gas through CY and GR waters and international waters, huge proven reserves of gas that are already being extracted.

Israel has a massive national interest in getting its gas to Europe without interference from Turkey.


True. Which is why Turkey is unlikely to succeed despite its provocations. It's not just little Cyprus who Turkey needs to worry about. This time Cyprus's interests are in tune with those of Israel, the US and the EU.

At the moment Turkey is acting like a big gorilla - beating its chest and making a lot of noise - hoping that people will be scared off.

But is anyone taking any notice? Are the Turks fooling anyone?
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Re: Israeli Jet Fighters Overfly Occupied CY and Turkish Coa

Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:52 pm

Turkey’s isolation complete!

NATO will not come to Turkey’s aid in the event of a Med conflict…

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/01/world ... .html?_r=1
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Re: Israeli Jet Fighters Overfly Occupied CY and Turkish Coa

Postby ZoC » Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:10 am

kurupetos wrote:
ZoC wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Defend herself how exactly?

Take the example of a daily occurrence, Turkish jets overfly Agathonisi island. The event lasts a few seconds, the island is tiny. You shoot down the offending jet and it will fall in international waters, and you have zero support from the international community (who supply you with spare prats etc).


not sure greece is in the market for any more spare prats; they being the one natural resource she has in abundance.

And what is the CY community in London doing at the meantime? Sleeping, drinking and farting as usual? :evil:


u and ur posts have been getting steadily more irrelevant.

unlike the greek spare prats, the cy community in london ain't an embarrassing, corrupt waste of space that needs the rest of europe to bail us out. so we can do wot the f*ck we like. wot's it to ya?
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