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Oil Gas - Don't Give Turkey a Way Out

Postby bill cobbett » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:30 pm

The government of the Republic have every right to reach agreements on defining EEZs with neighbouring nations and to explore and exploit its natural resources and certainly without belligerent threats and war-mongering from Turkey . Indeed it's far more than a legal right, put simply it's the norm, it's what other nations all over the world do.

In the last day or two, in the light of the regional instability caused by Turkish aggression, there have been suggestions from (amongst others) the UN and the USA for an agreement to share any future revenues and even suggestions for an ad-hoc committee of the UN to oversee any extraction process and to determine revenue sharing.

These are measures to appease Turkey, to give Turkey a way out of the mess that it has got itself in to, to again reward Turkish aggression, by allowing Turkey to withdraw its forces at sea and claim that it has secured a share of the Republic's wealth for its Occupation Regime.... and let's remember that these events aren't isolated to the last few days, the Turkish interference with exploration in CY waters has been going on since 2007.

Let's not give them the chance. Let's have as much concession about sharing resources with the Illegal Regime as the Criminal Conspiracy have had for the past decades about such things as Stolen Properties. Let's for once show some back-bone by saying Oxi.

Insist that Turkey leaves with nothing except her tail between her legs.
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Re: Oil Gas - Don't Give Turkey a Way Out

Postby ZoC » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:33 pm

bill cobbett wrote:The government of the Republic have every right to reach agreements on defining EEZs with neighbouring nations and to explore and exploit its natural resources and certainly without belligerent threats and war-mongering from Turkey . Indeed it's far more than a legal right, put simply it's the norm, it's what other nations all over the world do.

In the last day or two, in the light of the regional instability caused by Turkish aggression, there have been suggestions from (amongst others) the UN and the USA for an agreement to share any future revenues and even suggestions for an ad-hoc committee of the UN to oversee any extraction process and to determine revenue sharing.

These are measures to appease Turkey, to give Turkey a way out of the mess that it has got itself in to, to again reward Turkish aggression, by allowing Turkey to withdraw its forces at sea and claim that it has secured a share of the Republic's wealth for its Occupation Regime.... and let's remember that these events aren't isolated to the last few days, the Turkish interference with exploration in CY waters has been going on since 2007.

Let's not give them the chance. Let's have as much concession about sharing resources with the Illegal Regime as the Criminal Conspiracy have had for the past decades about such things as Stolen Properties. Let's for once show some back-bone by saying Oxi.

Insist that Turkey leaves with nothing except her tail between her legs.


it's a bloody nose the turkish bitch needs to be leaving with.
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Re: Oil Gas - Don't Give Turkey a Way Out

Postby Hermes » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:59 am

bill cobbett wrote:
In the last day or two, in the light of the regional instability caused by Turkish aggression, there have been suggestions from (amongst others) the UN and the USA for an agreement to share any future revenues and even suggestions for an ad-hoc committee of the UN to oversee any extraction process and to determine revenue sharing.


Interestingly, after protests from the RoC and, I assume, intervention from higher authorities, these "suggestions" have been corrected. Downer has backed down after universal criticism in Cyprus and now claims he was "misquoted". In the US, the American official who claimed that the UN could get involved in mediation efforts, also had her comments "corrected". The official position is now as follows:

The US support Cyprus’ right to explore for energy... Commenting on statements made on Wednesday by Victoria Nuland, another State Department Spokesperson, Toner said that “her quotes were taken a bit out of context”. “We continue to believe that the island’s oil and gas resources, like all of its resources, should be equitably shared between both communities in the context of an overall settlement, and we don`t believe that developing offshore energy resources need hinder those reunification talks” said the State Department official.
http://www.cna.org.cy/website/english/a ... 2.asp?id=2

It seems to me that appeasement of the Turks is the knee-jerk reaction of Downer and minor US officials. Fortunately, the ROC has acted swiftly to remind both Downer and the US of their responsibilities. The swiftness of the clarifications and correction shows that our diplomats and politicians are being vigilant...
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Re: Oil Gas - Don't Give Turkey a Way Out

Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:11 am

Turkey’s constant barking has informed and is constantly reminding, every country around the world of Cyprus’ gas/oil supplying potential so let me be the first to thank Erdogan for the free international advertising campaign! :D

Soon I expect financial institutions to raise Cyprus’ financial ratings to max and for foreign investment on the island to flourish. :)
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Re: Oil Gas - Don't Give Turkey a Way Out

Postby Hermes » Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:33 am

Get Real! wrote:Turkey’s constant barking has informed and is constantly reminding, every country around the world of Cyprus’ gas/oil supplying potential so let me be the first to thank Erdogan for the free international advertising campaign! :D

Soon I expect financial institutions to raise Cyprus’ financial ratings to max and for foreign investment on the island to flourish. :)


Further than that, all these years Turkey has tried to present the Cyprus "problem" as one of inter-communal conflict and not of illegal invasion and violation of Cyprus's sovereign rights. In one fell swoop Turkey has been exposed for the invader and occupier it is.

At no point since the invasion has the RoC had as much international backing and diplomatic support. Suddenly the talk is of Cyprus's "sovereignty" and Turkey's attempts to undermine it. We have much to thank Erdogan and his poodle Davutoglu for ...
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Re: Oil Gas - Don't Give Turkey a Way Out

Postby SKI-preo » Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:42 am

State Department Briefing by Mark C. Toner, September 29, 2011 .
QUESTION: Yes, I have a question on Cyprus. Previously, you said, and I quote, that “The United States supports Cyprus’s right to explore for natural gas.” You also said that the U.S. Government support the activities of Noble Energy and energy diversity in Europe. Yesterday, Mrs. Nuland said something else. Can you tell us exactly --

MR. TONER: Well --

QUESTION: -- the real U.S. position on the Cyprus drillings?

MR. TONER: Sure, Michael. Thank you, and I appreciate you actually asking the question, because I do want to be very clear, and I do believe that Toria was clear yesterday but perhaps some of her quotes were taken a bit out of context. But let me just walk you through our position.

The United States supports Cyprus’s right to explore for energy. Having a U.S. company involved in developing the energy resources of Cyprus is also positive. The United States continues to support strongly the Cypriot-led negotiation process, conducted under UN good offices, to reunify the island into a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation. That has not changed. We continue to believe that the island’s oil and gas resources, like all of its resources, should be equitably shared between both communities in the context of an overall settlement. And we don’t believe that developing offshore energy resources need hinder those reunification talks.

QUESTION: Do you have any comment on the threats by the prime minister of Turkey against Cyprus? He even implied that he’s ready to invade again in Cyprus.

MR. TONER: Again, Michael, I just would say that there’s a very clear path forward here. There’s a Cypriot-led negotiation process being conducted under the UN. That’s the best way to resolve all of these issues.

Go ahead.

QUESTION: So you are saying that the exploration at this stage does not hinder the reunification talks at the UN. Is this your position?

MR. TONER: That’s our position.
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Re: Oil Gas - Don't Give Turkey a Way Out

Postby boomerang » Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:23 am

i agree with the position that the sharing starts with an overall solution...just as what the turks were saying and still say regarding giving back varosha...nothing before a solution...
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Re: Oil Gas - Don't Give Turkey a Way Out

Postby Maximus » Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:05 am

Hermes wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Turkey’s constant barking has informed and is constantly reminding, every country around the world of Cyprus’ gas/oil supplying potential so let me be the first to thank Erdogan for the free international advertising campaign! :D

Soon I expect financial institutions to raise Cyprus’ financial ratings to max and for foreign investment on the island to flourish. :)


Further than that, all these years Turkey has tried to present the Cyprus "problem" as one of inter-communal conflict and not of illegal invasion and violation of Cyprus's sovereign rights. In one fell swoop Turkey has been exposed for the invader and occupier it is.

At no point since the invasion has the RoC had as much international backing and diplomatic support. Suddenly the talk is of Cyprus's "sovereignty" and Turkey's attempts to undermine it. We have much to thank Erdogan and his poodle Davutoglu for ...


completely agree.....
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Re: Oil Gas - Don't Give Turkey a Way Out

Postby Nikitas » Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:20 am

We are in for a break, now that Erdo wants to send the Turkish navy to the Indian ocean and beyond. This is not a joke. At the launcing of a corvetter a few days ago he actually said that their navy's natural area of operations is the Red Sea, the Indian ocean and areas beyond.

Have a good trip and do not forget the dramamines.
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Re: Oil Gas - Don't Give Turkey a Way Out

Postby Hermes » Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:33 pm

Clown Alert!

European Union Affairs Minister Egemen Bağış on Wednesday called on the EU to build up pressure on the Greek Cypriot administration to remove a veto on the opening of talks in Turkey’s accession negotiations on a policy chapter on energy, according to an Anatolia news agency report.

“EU countries must stop the Greek Cypriots’ refusal to open the energy chapter,” Bağış told reporters during a meeting with the French Ambassador to Turkey Laurent Bili.


http://www.todayszaman.com/news-258987- ... nergy.html?
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