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[Nikitas]

The Turkish foreign ministry advise Cyprus today: "not to spend its energy to provoke tension which in the end will damage the process for a solution to the Cyprus problem, but to show a spirit for peace and COMPROMISE and stop drilling, this is what is asked for from the Greek Cypriot side".

COMPROMISE from the nation whose prime minister two months ago said there will be NO return of territory, who categorically denied any chance for any GCs to return to the north, except for prayer and religious reasons.

The statement of the foreign ministry could not avoid the implied insult either, note how they talk of the Greek Cypriot side, avoiding the use of the term the Republic of Cyprus. This is the spirit of compromise ala Turka, with all the cynicism and arrogance that typifies them.

And they still have not offered any analysis of how exactly is the discovery of wealth a negative factor in the peace process. Or to put it another way, why is the peace process more likely to succeed if it is carried out by economically dependent parties?

[Hermes]

to show a spirit for peace and COMPROMISE and stop drilling, this is what is asked for from the Greek Cypriot side".

In the Turkish dictionary "compromise" means you do what Turkey wants. From the sentence above: compromise means to STOP DRILLING. This is is what we DEMAND from the Greek Cypriot side.

As usual for Turkey, words mean the opposite of what they really mean. Erdogan is demanding the Greek Cypriots "compromise" with Turkey. That is, do what Turkey wants. But this isn't what "compromise" means. This is a guide for how the current "peace talks" have been going. Turkey is demanding that the ROC compromise with them. That is, give them everything they want.

Reversing a word's meaning is a useful guide to understanding the Turkish mentality. Thus they called their brutal invasion and occupation of Cyprus a "peace operation" and they call the theft of our land an "exchange". When dealing with a Turk you must always reverse the meaning of their words. That way you understand that language for a Turk is not about truth, making an exchange or establishing a relationship. It is about power, lies and cynicism.

[boomerang]

Turkey offers to drop gas exploration

PRIME Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Turkey is willing to drop controversial plans for offshore gas exploration in the eastern Mediterranean if its rival Cyprus is willing to do the same, the Anatolia news agency reported today.
Erdogan made the comments to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon late yesterday on the margins of the annual UN General Assembly in New York, the agency said.

"If the two parties renounce natural gas exploration, we will accept it," Erdogan was quoted by aides as saying, according to the agency.

Erdogan also asked Ban to intervene with the Cypriot government in Nicosia to urge them to stop their offshore explorations.
If Nicosia refuses, it will "sabotage" the negotiations between Greek and Turkish leaders to reach any agreement on reunification of the island which has been divided since the 1974 conflict, the agency said.

"The unilateral decisions and initiatives of the Greek Cypriot administration are a risk to peace," Erdogan was quoted as saying.

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Turkey alone recognises the Turkish Cypriot statelet in the north of the island, while the international community recognises the Greek Cypriot state comprising the rest of the island.

Regional tensions have been rising as Nicosia has made a deal with US energy firm Noble, which has started exploratory drilling for gas off the south coast.

Turkey has threatened to start its own oil and gas exploration with military escort in retaliation.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/turkey-offers-to-drop-gas-exploration/story-e6frf7jx-1226144849570

this is a give away that points to 2 facts...
1...they have been told not to interfere in a serious way
2...they have nothing up their sleeve as far as drilling, by the time they get their ass into gear to start looking, not alone finding a copmany to extract it, the roc will be pumping gas/oil uniterupted

if i was the roc government i would be willing to listen to what else he has to offer through diplomatic channels...the roc needs to start probing...the roc needs to be working on the turkish proudness and self importance, 2nd biggest army in NATO etc...the turks can't handle a bitchslap by israel, but being bitchslapped by the roc is different beast all together...

the roc has 2 immediate tools for action to get a favourable solution for all cypriots right now...
1...drilling
2...eu presidency

make the most of it...

[boomerang]

i forgot to mention, once drilling starts and the eu presidency takes place you can forget unification...

this is the right time to get a cyprus/eu solution...

[Hermes]

[size=150][b]"If the two parties renounce natural gas exploration, we will accept it," Erdogan was quoted by aides as saying, according to the agency.

We really have got Erdogan over a barrel (of oil). He is bluffing like a desperate gambler on a losing streak. Unfortunately for him, we can see his hand. He's got nothing. No oil, no gas, nothing. And he's asking the ROC to give up its exploration! The bloke is a clown of the highest order.

[boomerang]

[size=150][b]"If the two parties renounce natural gas exploration, we will accept it," Erdogan was quoted by aides as saying, according to the agency.

We really have got Erdogan over a barrel (of oil). He is bluffing like a desperate gambler on a losing streak. Unfortunately for him, we can see his hand. He's got nothing. No oil, no gas, nothing. And he's asking the ROC to give up its exploration! The bloke is a clown of the highest order.

this is the point mate, we know, he knows and everyone knows we got him over a barrell...but what does that mean if we do not exploit it?...jack shit thats how much is worth...i am not saying do not drill, i say probe him wit diplomatic channels...if you followed wikileaks you would discover their bazaar mentality, you give me something i will give you something...don't worry what he says in public for demostic purposes, they are burning inside, and the roc right at this point in time can extinguish the turkish within fire, for a price ofcourse...

lest see how wise pres x is...paps would have had them in knots...

[boomerang]

this is the only time in history since the invasion that we really got the upper hand over the turks, even their supporters became our supporters, US, UK, Israel, all of the EU...what more do you want?...

fucking exploit it to get the best deal for all cypriots...

[Maximus]

I agree, the RoC should be more proactive in countering the rhetoric the Turks provide, its free ammunition . The RoC should be twisting the Turks up something chronic.

If any hydrocarbons are found, The RoC should hold 20% of the 'profit' in escrow, like Varosha is being held as a bargaining chip for negotiations. when the Turks release Varosha, given a settlement, the RoC can release the funds to regenerate the occupied areas. Given that the citizens of the republic will ultimately be responsible for paying for the reunification of the Island, this includes the Turkish Cypriots then they should not object if the funds are used to regenerate Varosha too. If Turkey comes up with the money to cover Varosha, the matter will not be an the agenda.

whats fair for one is fair for all, all Cypriots will ultimately be paying.

[boomerang]

maximus you are not offering a "honourable" turkish exit...what you are offering will not be accepted because you already bitchslapped him...you want to offer him a perceived turkish victory...after so many years of turkish public brainwashing you want to offer him something he can still claim vicrory...think about it...

time is of the essence here...lets put the bravado aside for a minute and start exploiting the situation...

[Maximus]

maximus you are not offering a "honourable" turkish exit...what you are offering will not be accepted because you already bitchslapped him...you want to offer him a perceived turkish victory...after so many years of turkish public brainwashing you want to offer him something he can still claim vicrory...think about it...

time is of the essence here...lets put the bravado aside for a minute and start exploiting the situation...

You are right, what is honorable in your opinion in order for the Turks to save face.