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Re: Compromise, Erdo's new discovery

Postby Get Real! » Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:04 pm

At best they’ve added an instrument to detect shawls of fish 8) so they’ve upgraded the vessel’s status to “seismic research” in accordance with Turkish standards! :)
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Re: Compromise, Erdo's new discovery

Postby Nikitas » Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:26 pm

If the "oceanographic" PIri Reis does not cut it, they will send in the CIMBUKLU. In Greek is is spelt TSIMBOUKLOU, don't you just love the name!!!

Yes, send us a Tsimbouklou, please do!
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Re: Compromise, Erdo's new discovery

Postby Capt J Sparrow » Sun Sep 25, 2011 4:05 pm

Nikitas wrote:If the "oceanographic" PIri Reis does not cut it, they will send in the CIMBUKLU. In Greek is is spelt TSIMBOUKLOU, don't you just love the name!!!

Yes, send us a Tsimbouklou, please do!


Can I buy the Pir Reis? I like the name and It would make a good life boat.

Can Erdog throw in a free Tsimbouklou?
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Re: Compromise, Erdo's new discovery

Postby boomerang » Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:27 pm

Also on Sunday, Turkish Energy and Natural Resources Minister Taner Yıldız announced that Turkey was building a national seismic ship for oil and gas explorations, and that the country might purchase a drilling platform if need arises. “If the data we gather tells us we need to buy an oil platform, the Turkish Petroleum Corporation [TPAO] could buy a platform worth $1.5 billion. It is not an easy acquisition but it is possible,” Yıldız told reporters. He also added that the KKTC would not cut down on the electricity it has been providing for the Greek Cypriots since a blast munitions dump that put down the major power source of the country. “We have nothing against the people of Greek Cyprus, we will not abuse their soft spot,” Yıldız said.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-257919-kktc-to-start-drilling-in-eastern-mediterranean-soon.html


yeah no one is gonna come with a platform and they are going to buy one.... :lol:

in the mean time according to this website they announced their driiling sides...furthering the notion they've been told to stay far away from the roc EEZ...

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http://siyaset.milliyet.com.tr/iste-turkiye-nin-gaz-arayacagi-yerler/siyaset/siyasetdetay/25.09.2011/1442731/default.htm
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Re: Compromise, Erdo's new discovery

Postby boomerang » Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:50 pm

The proposal starts with a bid for both sides to simultaneously suspend oil and gas exploration, a move that seemed to show Turkey’s reluctance to start drilling work in Mediterranean.

the message stay far away as possible seemed to have finally sunk in...

In the first item of the new proposal submitted to Ban, Eroğlu made an offer to the Greek side to “suspend the oil and natural gas exploration simultaneously until a comprehensive solution is found to the Cyprus problem.”

what's you problem errorgluey?..aren't the illegal gains enough for you to declare your own state?..

If this is not going to happen, Eroğlu offered to “set up an ad-hoc committee shaped by representatives of both peoples” on the divided island. “We shall give some authority to the committee, such as [authority over] explorations, agreements and licenses dependent on written approval of both sides, and we will negotiate the ratio of sharing the riches that will be found,” Eroğlu said.

dependant of approval by both sides...you gotta laugh at this clown...we all know what dependant on written approval of both sides means... :lol:

Thirdly, the Turkish Cypriot leader proposed, “We shall use the income to finance the comprehensive talks,” adding lastly that “the adoption of the plan shall not harm the positions of either side.”

and a classic example of what's mine and yours are both mine...

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=turkey-seeks-simultaneous-drilling-halt-2011-09-25


the problem is the turks are unable to do shit about anything these days without getting severely bitchslapped...US, EU, israel, and the best of all roc...even their staunchest EU allies are stayng mute on this...
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Re: Compromise, Erdo's new discovery

Postby Hermes » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:42 am

Get Real! wrote:At best they’ve added an instrument to detect shawls of fish 8) so they’ve upgraded the vessel’s status to “seismic research” in accordance with Turkish standards! :)


They might as well be looking for fish. This boat is not an oil or gas research vessel. And as for the "continental shelf" agreement with the "TRNC" , it's a complete joke. Turkey is making up policies on the back of an envelope. Any "agreement" with the pseudo-state in the north is worthless. The Turks know this but they are sending a small armada to try and convince themselves (and us) that they are actually conducting "seismic research". Bloody jokers.
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Re: Compromise, Erdo's new discovery

Postby supporttheunderdog » Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:54 am

boomerang wrote:
Also on Sunday, Turkish Energy and Natural Resources Minister Taner Yıldız announced that Turkey was building a national seismic ship for oil and gas explorations, and that the country might purchase a drilling platform if need arises. “If the data we gather tells us we need to buy an oil platform, the Turkish Petroleum Corporation [TPAO] could buy a platform worth $1.5 billion. It is not an easy acquisition but it is possible,” Yıldız told reporters. He also added that the KKTC would not cut down on the electricity it has been providing for the Greek Cypriots since a blast munitions dump that put down the major power source of the country. “We have nothing against the people of Greek Cyprus, we will not abuse their soft spot,” Yıldız said.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-257919-kktc-to-start-drilling-in-eastern-mediterranean-soon.html


yeah no one is gonna come with a platform and they are going to buy one.... :lol:

in the mean time according to this website they announced their driiling sides...furthering the notion they've been told to stay far away from the roc EEZ...

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http://siyaset.milliyet.com.tr/iste-turkiye-nin-gaz-arayacagi-yerler/siyaset/siyasetdetay/25.09.2011/1442731/default.htm


Does that red line represent the boundry twixt the so called TRNC and Turkey? Looks a bit off center.

Hope the ROC is making the point to all concerned that all the waters around the Island fall either with in Cyriot territorial waters, up to 12 miles out, up to 24 miles for someother purposes, and up to 200 miles for the EEZ, subject to meeting the median points with other costal states, and that no surveying of any sort can take place without a licence from the ROC Government, All as is spelt out in UNCLOS. I'd alse seek to ensure there were very strict penalties on the owners, charterers, crew, etc for breaches of law on sureveying in the EEZ. I'd further make it an offence to insure or reinsure such a ship, or to lend money or have other financial dealings with any entity involved in in illegal exploitaion of the EEZ, including surveying and drilling.
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Re: Compromise, Erdo's new discovery

Postby B25 » Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:00 am

STUD, unfortunately the current government of the ROC are spineless shit, they couldn't even come up with clauses such as yours. All very good too.

You ought to apply for a job as their adviser, maybe we might just get something done.

Spineless pricks.
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Re: Compromise, Erdo's new discovery

Postby Hermes » Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:03 am

Nikitas wrote:The PIri Reis ship, named afte a famous Ottoman pirate/cartographer, brings back memoris.

They used it back in the days of Ozal in the Aegean as a publicity stunt. Then Greece got the maps drawn up by Piri Reis himself in which he notes clearly that the Aegean islands are Greek. So the Turks stopped using the Piri Reis, substituing it with the Cimbuklu! The name of that ship made me laugh. Someone must have told them what it means in Greek and they stopped using it too.

Thirty odd years later the Piri Reis is beginning to show its age.


From the Turkish Press...

'Under the title: "It took off without having its engine replaced", Turkish Milliyet (24.09.11) reported that Koca Piri Reis, which is a 33-year old ship, sailed off in order to conduct a two-week seismic survey for oil drilling in the Mediterranean Sea.

In statements to Milliyet, Professor Dr Huseyin Avni Benli, Director of the Department of Marine Sciences and Technology at Dokuz Eylul (Nine September) University (DEU), stated that Piri Reis, which was built at the Schiffweft Diedrich Oldersum Shipyard in 1976, was one of the most modern vessels of its kind at that time.

However, with the passing of time, its technology became obsolete. Due to this, the university applied to the State Planning Organization (DPT) for money to fix the ship. DPT replied that this year the ship will be overhauled and will be supplied with modern technology. In order to do so, the ship needed a new engine and a new generator. However, because the VAT for the engine, which cost one million Turkish Lira, was too high to be paid, the engine remained at the customs office and the ship did not have its engine replaced.'


http://www.hri.org/news/cyprus/tcpr/201 ... .tcpr.html
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Re: Compromise, Erdo's new discovery

Postby Nikitas » Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:25 am

"However, because the VAT for the engine, which cost one million Turkish Lira, was too high to be paid, the engine remained at the customs office and the ship did not have its engine replaced.'"

This is the head of the Turkish marine studies speaking folks!

What! The might Turkish industrial tiger cannot build a ship's generator! It cannot overhaul a simple diesel engine!

I keep telling you, the industrial growth you see in Turkey is foreign owned, and/or runs on foreign technology. This is a small confirmation of my assertion.
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