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[Piratis]

And unlike Papapetrou, Papadopoulos dissolved his party (Enosi Kentrou).

Papapetrou party has also been practically dissolved.

Of course, Papadopoulos had a lot more money than what Papapetrou does

The Americans that finance Papapetrou have a lot more money than Papadopoulos. The only thing they can not buy are our votes.

plus he has always been thirsty for power.

This can be said for every single leader in the whole world.

All these made a difference.

Othello, Vassiliou that is the leader of Papapetrou party is also rich and he has also been a president. Why his party got only 3%?

The answer is simple. In democracies either you do what the people want or you get the boot. Thats how it is and thats how it should be. Everything else are just excuses.

Its obvious that the man is power crazy Turk hater playing for another term in office leading his people a merry dance.

I am glad that people like you, who want the partition of my country, do not like him. Just this means that our choice was right. Thanks for confirming it.

[metecyp]

yep...a Turk hater giving TC free healthcare. Thats a good way to kill all TC isnt it...by giving them free healthcare

Take your free healthcare and shove it up in your ass. So sick of hearing this crap.

[Othellos]

Othello, Vassiliou that is the leader of Papapetrou party is also rich and he has also been a president. Why his party got only 3%?

Because Vassiliou didn't have the support of AKEL at the time. If Papadopoulos didn't have the support of AKEL either (their only motive to support someone like him was to climb back to power after 10 years) then he wouldn't be Prersident now. And if Papadopoulos didn't work his way back to DIKO then he would probably get his 1-2 % like he did in the past. But of course he didn't want that and this is why he dissolved his mini-party. My point is that Papadopoulos is not the "popular" leader that you are perhaps trying to portray him as. He is someone who just took the opportunity to get where he is today and the fact that he has no policy with respect to the Cyprus problem or any other problem for that matter, to me is proof that his priorities are elsewhere.

Take your free healthcare and shove it up in your ass. So sick of hearing this crap.

I am sure that there are some TC people out there who need this healthcare and who are grateful for this free benefit.

[Viewpoint]

yep...a Turk hater giving TC free healthcare. Thats a good way to kill all TC isnt it...by giving them free healthcare

Why does he give us healthcare have you ever thought of that Main, just think for a few minutes and it nots becasue he love TCs, its for political gain, the "RoC" claims to represent all Cypriots, therefore how can it deny its claimed citizens such basic necessisites as healthcare passports etc the political gain far outweighs the financial cost, you cannot be so blind as not to see the obvious, but there again you just might be

[Bananiot]

Piratis is turning into a daft little dictator. He claims in all seriousness that people should not be allowed to present their views and ideas unless they commanded a huge chunk of the vote in the elections and of course, since I was not a candidate in the elections and in effect I got zero %, I'd better shut up, or else ...

The little dictator is also sure that Papapetrou is financed by the Americans but the only documented certainty is the financing by the CIA of Papadopoulos to wage a war of attrition against AKEL.

Show me your master, Piratis, and I will tell you who you are!

[Piratis]

Because Vassiliou didn't have the support of AKEL at the time. If Papadopoulos didn't have the support of AKEL either (their only motive to support someone like him was to climb back to power after 10 years) then he wouldn't be Prersident now.

And why didn't Vassiliou have the support of AKEL? Because AKEL knew that Vassiliou could not be elected. And why he could not be elected? He got elected the last time just with the support of AKEL. Because this time the same amount of people would not vote for him. Vassiliou was tried, and in the minds of most people he failed in respect to the Cyprus Problem and this is why they wouldn't vote for him again.

Of course party alliances matter at some degree. And the alliance that supports Papadopoulos now is an honest alliance. (remember Anastasiades promising Omirou to make him president? That was a dishonest move that had as an aim the power and nothing more).

Papadopoulos today doesn't do whatever he wants. What AKEL and EDEK say is important for what the government does. And yes, this is much better than having another term of Cleredes.

Piratis is turning into a daft little dictator. He claims in all seriousness that people should not be allowed to present their views and ideas unless they commanded a huge chunk of the vote in the elections

Bananiot, try to keep your lies for events that happened in the distant past so it is harder to detect in that way.
Were did I say that any people should not be allowed to present their views and ideas??????

What I said and I repeat it: "It is ridiculous that these people that represent almost zero think they can represent Cyprus left which is almost 40% of the population."

[cypezokyli]

cyprus left does not exist even as a concept.

[Bananiot]

Your rationale smacks of fascism Piratis. Instead of considering the ideas of someone, always your only or main argument, is the amount of popular support they enjoyed in the last elections.

[Piratis]

Your rationale smacks of fascism Piratis

fascism = far right = the ones who you support.
I have nothing to do with fascism. I always support democracy and human rights, unlike you.

Instead of considering the ideas of someone, always your only or main argument, is the amount of popular support they enjoyed in the last elections.

Bananiot, in next parliamentary elections I will vote for Green Party which is a 3% party. For me the size of the party doesn't matter. What matters is what the party supports. I know very well what Papapetrou etc support and this is why I don't like them.

What I said is that Papapetrou should realize that he represents almost nobody and therefore he is not the appropriate person to talk about the Cyprus left. Actually he is not even a leftist anymore.

[Othellos]

And why didn't Vassiliou have the support of AKEL? Because AKEL knew that Vassiliou could not be elected. And why he could not be elected? He got elected the last time just with the support of AKEL. Because this time the same amount of people would not vote for him. Vassiliou was tried, and in the minds of most people he failed in respect to the Cyprus Problem and this is why they wouldn't vote for him again.

Wrong, Piratis. Vassiliou was supported by AKEL when he tried to get re-elected in 1993 but he lost to Clerides. After that and to his credit, Vassiliou chose to cooperate with Clerides. Vassiliou's leading role in the negotiations with the EU and the successful outcome of this effort, is probably his greatest contribution to this country and its people. When in 1998 Clerides got re-elected, this happened with the support of Vassiliou as well - this was enough to make AKEL turn against him.

Of course party alliances matter at some degree. And the alliance that supports Papadopoulos now is an honest alliance. (remember Anastasiades promising Omirou to make him president? That was a dishonest move that had as an aim the power and nothing more).

Actually the promise was made on the provision that Clerides wouldn't run and eventually Clerides did choose to run. Personally I think that having someone with no personality like Omirou for President would be another farse. But at leasr he doesn't refer to the citizens of this country as "traitors" just because they disagree with him, like Papadopoulos does.

Papadopoulos today doesn't do whatever he wants. What AKEL and EDEK say is important for what the government does. And yes, this is much better than having another term of Cleredes.

Here is a question for you Piratis: what has Papadopoulos ever offered to this country and its people? At least Clerides was the one who in 1974 "received chaos and delivered a state". He was the President who succeded in making Cyprus a full EU member, and at the same time he worked hard for a solution. Papadopoulos on the other hand was nowhere to be found in 1974, he does not know what to do with our EU membership and he has no interest in working for a soution. Simply put, Piratis, this President is the greatest "disaster" that has hit the island since Turkey's invasion in 1974. Mr Christofias is just as responsible for the current situation because he is the one who elected PApadopoulos, but he has nothing to say about all these. After all he has his "communist" party to look after and this comes first.

O.