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Re: Incredible ..........

Postby Kikapu » Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:11 pm

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Deniz, Deniz, Deniz, you cannot leave the Cyprus Forum. After All, you have been given the status as an "Addict". :wink:

Look, all points of view should be aired, and yes, at times the discussions do get out of hand. I have scaled back of using strong language myself, even though some take this as a sign of weakness. I disagree. When an individual stops respecting me, then I let them have it, that's it. DTA often tries to provoke me with his endless groundless accusations, but when ever I ask him to back his statements, he disappears until another time, to repeat the same rubbish. I have learned his pattern, therefore I do not take him seriously or personally, but respond to him in a civilized way all the same.

Deniz, you can't leave...................please! :( :( :(


Firstly I owe you an apology for bringing your name into this in an agresive manor when you had not been involved in this thread. My reasoning for this is that I am upset that there are no tcs left on this forum and I believe that you had a part to play in that.

There are no tcs left here kikapo surely even you must be unhappy about that.

There are now no alternative views just a bias hegonomy - and that is bad for everyone.

But I shouldn't have brang you in to it, and recently you have been respectful in your posts, so for that I am sorry.

As for everyone saying that I started the swearing... Um ok read back on b25s post (the bottom), Sotos spouts the same bums it he is well known fascist who posts are offensive to every tc.


DTA,

Firstly, I accept your apology. I do not hold grudge against anyone, including you.

Secondly, when ever you and and other TCs who objects to my views that are based on Democracy, Human Rights, International Law and the EU Principles, to which I also want the same for a unified Cyprus, you make the claim, proudly I may add, that my views are not the views of most TCs, therefore one must be a Greek to have such values. If ONLY you and others making such statements would really understand what your own statements are saying, then you would understand that, you are making the TCs look terrible in the eyes of the world, by telling the world that the TCs do not believe in Democracy, Human Rights, International Law and the EU Principles, but instead, you and others support the position of those here on the CF where they call the TCs morally corrupted, Fascists and Partitionists, which then you get upset and react aggressively when in fact you are laying the groundwork for such accusations, when you and others condemn these Universal Principles to apply in Cyprus. At the same time, you are promoting the "Greeks" as accepting these Universal Principles. Don't you see what it is that you are doing?

Under the circumstances, you and others calling me a "Greek" is actually a compliment, without you even realising it. In fact, half the world must be "Greek", since they too stand for these Universal Principles, whether or not it is practices in every country. When the choice is between Democracy, Human Rights, International Law and EU Principles vs Fascism, Racism, Dictatorship and violations of ones Human Rights and International law, then let me make it very clear to you and others, that I will ALWAYS choose the former over the latter every time, regardless what names I'm called here on the forum, including being called a "Greek". You should be more concerned what names they call you and others like you with similar views, by you not believing in these Universal Principles. On the plus side for you however, half the world does agree with you in rejecting these Universal Principles, who happen to be not "Greek" at all !
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Re: Incredible ..........

Postby DTA » Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:11 pm

Hi kiks thanks for accepting my apology.

Like I explained before when I called you Greek I didn't mean it as an insult to you or Greeks in general, I just wanted to exemplify how far away your position is from that of the tcs.

I respect what you say, but you know it is not that simple incyprus or in the world today the west pickS and choose the so called 'international principles' that they want and when they want - there is very little fairness in this - the biggest violator of un resolutions (correct me if I'm wrong) I believe is Israel yet it recieves unwavering support from the west - money and politiks rule the world - so where as I believe in many of the lets call them western principles of equality, multiculturalism, etc there application is selective and hide a system which is almost corrupt to the core.

I get angry with kiks not cause you hold these principles.... No...I get angry with you because even when these very same principles that you hold are being discussed in relation to a gc violation, you either back their side or stay quite.that's wrong, especially when you consider that their views are in the majority here because they are also by far the majority here.

Anyway I'm done on this forum, the last tc is leaving here..... Like I said Kiks surely you can't be happy with that.

Im glad you accepted my apology - in general i dont like bad feelings so be happy in life bruv have a good one.
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Re: Incredible ..........

Postby Kikapu » Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:27 pm

DTA wrote:Anyway I'm done on this forum, the last tc is leaving here..... Like I said Kiks surely you can't be happy with that.


DTA,

Listen my friend, we are all grown ups here. If people want to join the forum or leave the forum, it is entirely up to them, regardless what their ethnicities are. Of course I'm not happy many of the TC and GC members are not on the forum at the moment, but it is their own personal choice that they are making by going away, except for those who have been banned, which Deniz and I tried to convince the Admin to allow them to ALL come back as a second chance given to them with the new forum rules and new format, but no avail.

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Re: Incredible ..........

Postby ZoC » Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:34 pm

DTA wrote:Anyway I'm done on this forum, the last tc is leaving here.....


that's right. run away. u lost the argument so nothing more to say.
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Re: Incredible ..........

Postby B25 » Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:07 pm

DTA wrote:Anyway I'm done on this forum, the last tc is leaving here.....


Good bye and good riddence to bad rubbish. Now go pick up your dummy!
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Re: Incredible ..........

Postby Capt J Sparrow » Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:36 pm

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DTA wrote:Anyway I'm done on this forum, the last tc is leaving here.....


that's right. run away. u lost the argument so nothing more to say.


What a pussy he turned out to be! :roll:

Go on, run away to mummy's warm embrace.....
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Re: Incredible ..........

Postby Hermes » Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:38 pm

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Anyway I'm done on this forum, the last tc is leaving here....


What a drama queen! At least us GCs are in it for the long haul. We ain't going nowhere...
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Re: Incredible ..........

Postby Kikapu » Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:19 pm

DTA wrote:Hi kiks thanks for accepting my apology.

Like I explained before when I called you Greek I didn't mean it as an insult to you or Greeks in general, I just wanted to exemplify how far away your position is from that of the tcs.

I respect what you say, but you know it is not that simple incyprus or in the world today the west pickS and choose the so called 'international principles' that they want and when they want - there is very little fairness in this - the biggest violator of un resolutions (correct me if I'm wrong) I believe is Israel yet it recieves unwavering support from the west - money and politiks rule the world - so where as I believe in many of the lets call them western principles of equality, multiculturalism, etc there application is selective and hide a system which is almost corrupt to the core.

I get angry with kiks not cause you hold these principles.... No...I get angry with you because even when these very same principles that you hold are being discussed in relation to a gc violation, you either back their side or stay quite.that's wrong, especially when you consider that their views are in the majority here because they are also by far the majority here.

Anyway I'm done on this forum, the last tc is leaving here..... Like I said Kiks surely you can't be happy with that.

Im glad you accepted my apology - in general i dont like bad feelings so be happy in life bruv have a good one.



DTA,

I didn't have the time to respond to all your questions on this post earlier, so I'll address them now. :D

I respect what you say, but you know it is not that simple incyprus or in the world today the west pickS and choose the so called 'international principles' that they want and when they want - there is very little fairness in this - the biggest violator of un resolutions (correct me if I'm wrong) I believe is Israel yet it recieves unwavering support from the west - money and politiks rule the world - so where as I believe in many of the lets call them western principles of equality, multiculturalism, etc there application is selective and hide a system which is almost corrupt to the core.



Just because the world is not perfect when it comes to Democracy, Human Rights and International law, DTA, it shouldn't mean that we shouldn't seek to improve it, regardless what Israel has been doing. Do you think what Turkey has been doing in Cyprus is any better? Were you disgusted with Turkey for the last 50+ years for them supporting Israel's actions regarding the Palestinian or is this a new revelations for you? Be very careful how you use your examples. As I've said, just because we do not live in a perfect world, it doesn't mean we should settle for undemocratic, Human Rights and International law violations. It will be like saying, "lets not give a starving person anything to eat today, just because he is going to be without food again tomorrow." :roll:

I get angry with kiks not cause you hold these principles.... No...I get angry with you because even when these very same principles that you hold are being discussed in relation to a gc violation, you either back their side or stay quite.that's wrong, especially when you consider that their views are in the majority here because they are also by far the majority here.


I don't know what majority of the GCs violating Universal Principles on the TCs, DTA, that I do not confront them on which causes you to get upset with me.? In any case, I have said this many times, that as a TC, I'm more interested what the TCs say and do. I let the GCs question their own, which Bananiot does all the time. You don't see me challenging Bananiot when he picks on the GCs, do you? My only major disagreement with Bananiot has been on the Annan Plan, which he supported it in 2004 and still does today, despite all the known AP's faults. :?

I've already answered your other question regarding you leaving and that there are no TCs left on the CF. Well, I'm still here for now, so not ALL the TCs have disappeared from the CF..........yet! :wink:
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Re: Incredible ..........

Postby ZoC » Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:30 pm

Kikapu wrote:I've already answered your other question regarding you leaving and that there are no TCs left on the CF. Well, I'm still here for now, so not ALL the TCs have disappeared from the CF..........yet! :wink:


kiks, the ones that have disappeared have done so because their arguments are completely untenable, and demonstrably so. and everyone knows it.
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Re: Incredible ..........

Postby Cap » Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:30 pm

i'm a cypriot nationalist


Everywhere, even in the north.

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