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Re: Incredible ..........

Postby Hermes » Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:29 pm

DTA wrote:To zoc

Bruv this forum is a microcosm of a unitary state and there are no tcs left on it.


You mean it's a microcosm of the occupied areas because there are no T/Cs left in it.
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Re: Incredible ..........

Postby DTA » Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:35 pm

Hermes wrote:
DTA wrote:To zoc

Bruv this forum is a microcosm of a unitary state and there are no tcs left on it.


You mean it's a microcosm of the occupied areas because there are no T/Cs left in it.


There plenty of tcs left in the trnc
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Re: Incredible ..........

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:37 pm

The point is I totally disagree with MANY things you say DTA, and I simply refrained from directing my disagreements to you, just by knowing you are alone here Vs what 10 times more, and I wouldn't like to be the 11th in a row. In fact I consider some of your points very provocative.

As an example I could say that the Kypreoi are in fact 4 times more than the Kibrislis, and I am very sorry that the only way for us to become equal is either a)3 out of 4 of us commit suicide or b)You inflate your numbers with 100-150% more settlers (new cypriots as you call them).
Another example is that I disagree that this forum is a microcosm of what would happen under "GC dominance" (what a cliche!!) You forgot the issue of RIGHT. Kibrislis having the RIGHT on their side could of successfully fight out 3:1 Vs Kypreoi.

Those were just examples I really don't want to become the 11th in a row against you.
Bar the harsh language I mostly align with the answers given to you by Hermes and Boomerang :wink:
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Re: Incredible ..........

Postby DTA » Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:22 pm

Pyro who is RIGHT here???? How can anyone make that judgement? Seriously how can anyone?

If you think that gcs have RIGHT exclusively on their side than I have indeed misjudged you, I have always said that both communities have done wrong.

The 'new tcs' as I have for them once was because I am sick of people calling them anotolian peasants - I do find that offensive

But demographical change is something that is going on Cyprus for a long time started against the tcs by Britain then the gcs then by turkey- the turkish people that have come here, some of which have been here since 74 - they have contributed to the trnc - you expect us to say ok now we gonna make peace with the gcs so you can all fuck off - no that won't sit well with me.

There are no tcs left on this forum is what I am saying so outrageous?
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Re: Incredible ..........

Postby supporttheunderdog » Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:40 pm

ZoC wrote:• turkey is wholly to blame for why cyprus is divided today. :-| and tcs are the excuse, and too many go along with it 'cos they don't got no balls. (if they had any they wouldn't identify with turkey; they wouldn't have become tcs in the first place; after all they're converts in the main) :)
• bbf don't mean nothing without meat on the bones.... there are shit, unacceptable bbfs (in turkey's interests not cypriots) and bbfs that might be acceptable, but the jury's still out; i prefer a single cypriot state, one person, one vote, no more bullshit "communities", just individual citizens, who can do wot they want :) in the privacy of their own bedrooms (if they like it greek); :shock:
• cypriots should live where the hell the like in their own country; :)
• cyprus has a unique and distinct cultural heritage :D which should be celebrated, elevated; not polarised; people should learn english; or if they're in limassol, russian. :D greek/turk shit should be downplayed; it's all bollox. both "motherlands" are an embarrassment :) and anyone who identifies with either should grow up or else be imprisoned or shot; (ok, sectioned, i'm not a fascist: they can't help it; they need treatment); :D
• yes compensate everyone; the "guarantors" to pay.
:)

I generally agree with many of your points here but I think it is very impiortant to recognise that the post-1960 attitide of the Enosis loving Cypriot I Wannabee Greek Traitors to the Republic had a part to play - not exclusive but a significant role - and which contributed to the initial division of the Island in 1963. Sadly there are still some of these sad malaccas about today.

yes, Turkey exploited it for all it was worth and no doubT spread FUD amongst the Kibrilisi, Fear in particular being the main weapn, and I dont just mean fear of Greek Cypriots but fear of of the TMT in those who were not happy to follow a takist line.
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Re: Incredible ..........

Postby supporttheunderdog » Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:46 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
boomerang wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:This thread has shown perfectly why no TCs are left on the politcal topics. The foul language. It goes on unabated. What happened to promises made by ADMIN? Zilch. Shame on those that cannot find better vocabulary for their arguments. This is nothing but bullying. Many forums simply ban bully's, but this will hit their pockets. What a shame.

Have a good day 'gentlemen'. (or night)

i think if you were to look over this thread you will find the first insult came from DTA calling Sotos a bitch...yeah ban DTA for bullying...is that what you want?...

the tcs left this forum because no longer can defend the indefensible...

further more where were you when turkey was trheatening cyprus with war?...your silence spoke volumes on this...

admit here and right now, turkey was wrong on threats and admit here and right now the roc has a right in exploring for oil...


Turkey is a bully. Have İ ever denied that? İ also saw the Attacks and verbal abuse on DTA during the week. No wonder this otherwise gentleman has blown his top. İ was going to respond to this abuse, but decided to keep out of it.

All İ can say now is God help Cyprus and true Cypriots. İ also will not put up with this barrage of abuse from so called educated and intelligent people. This applies to both sides. Why should İ ask for DTA banning when so many GCs simply thrive on vulgarities. Outside cf İ have discovered a huge world of forums where such language is not tolerated. Furthermore the language of some GCs here is a total embarrassment to my genuine stance on the Cyprus issue.

I WILL NO LONGER TAKE PART IN ANY SECTION OF THE CYPRUS FORUM. I FEEL I HAVE MADE GOOD FRIENDS HERE. SOME OF THESE FRIENDS HAVE ALSO LEFT FOR REASONS OF THEIR OWN OR BEEN BANNED. I MISS THEM.

ADMIN HAS FAILED CYPRUS FORUM AND NEED NEW ADMINISTRATORS. IF THEY WISH THE CF TO BE A RIGHT WINF FORUM SO BE IT. I AM OUT OF HERE.

GOODBYE CYPRIOTS AND OTHERS

DENIZ AKSULU


Dear Deniz

I am sorry you are going - it is just a pity that people who think like you (prepared to look and even accept the other person's POV) are not more involved in the solution. You are a voice of reason and CF will defintely be the worse for your departure.
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Re: Incredible ..........

Postby Hermes » Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:14 pm

DTA wrote:Pyro who is RIGHT here???? How can anyone make that judgement? Seriously how can anyone?

What an odd question. The international community has made a judgement and recognises the RoC. No-one but Turkey recognises the "TRNC". Are you not aware of this? There is an international embargo against the breakaway state for a reason. It was created by invasion, ethnic cleansing and partition.

There are UN resolutions which call for the withdrawal of Turkish troops, the return of refugees and the removal of settlers. The international community have made their judgement. Turkey is in the WRONG. So don't come here and claim that there is some kind of debate around the issue. This isn't some kind of neighbourly dispute where both sides have an equal case. The Turks have nothing on their side. No right, no case. Nothing.

So don't give me this "only god can decide". Because that is bullshit. We have justice, morality and international law on OUR side. Turkey enforces its madness by force of arms. That is the only case it has. That is why Turkey has no case. Turkey has nothing.

The question is why do you believe that Turkey has an equal view on the matter? What are you doing siding with the forces of barbarism and illegality on the island? That is something you should ask yourself. Seriously.
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Re: Incredible ..........

Postby ZoC » Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:22 pm

DTA wrote:To zoc

Bruv this forum is a microcosm of a unitary state and there are no tcs left on it. So no a unitary state won't be acceptable thank you.


u want cyprus cut in two. so u don't agree with anything the majority want and then say, see? we don't agree. cut the island in two. well i don't agree. so now wot?

DTA wrote:Most are converts... Even if that was true so the fuck what we are still tcs. Still have a our own culture etc


yes wotever. half a century ago a bunch of ottoman gypsies came over, uninvited, bought a load of shit with them, and u refuse to let any of it go... especially the shittiest bits. christ, it's turkey we're talking about! the most hated nation on earth! cyprus was ur ticket away from all that crap... but u wouldn't let it go.

DTA wrote:To be Cypriot does not mean being a Greek Cypriot nor were the Greek Cypriots the first people on this island - we either share it together equally or stay separated.


if u want to be separate from cyprus, there's a wonderful country who can do no wrong in ur eyes, 40 mile north. why don't u do urself and the rest of this island's long suffering people a favour and go snuggle up with all ur anatolian buddies. it's really that simple...

wot if we gave u loads of gas money to just f*ck off?

ur lot were always willing to compromise ur beliefs for the sake of an easy ride.

it'll be history repeating itself. come on, wot's it worth?
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Re: Incredible ..........

Postby ZoC » Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:50 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:
ZoC wrote:• turkey is wholly to blame for why cyprus is divided today. :-| and tcs are the excuse, and too many go along with it 'cos they don't got no balls. (if they had any they wouldn't identify with turkey; they wouldn't have become tcs in the first place; after all they're converts in the main) :)
• bbf don't mean nothing without meat on the bones.... there are shit, unacceptable bbfs (in turkey's interests not cypriots) and bbfs that might be acceptable, but the jury's still out; i prefer a single cypriot state, one person, one vote, no more bullshit "communities", just individual citizens, who can do wot they want :) in the privacy of their own bedrooms (if they like it greek); :shock:
• cypriots should live where the hell the like in their own country; :)
• cyprus has a unique and distinct cultural heritage :D which should be celebrated, elevated; not polarised; people should learn english; or if they're in limassol, russian. :D greek/turk shit should be downplayed; it's all bollox. both "motherlands" are an embarrassment :) and anyone who identifies with either should grow up or else be imprisoned or shot; (ok, sectioned, i'm not a fascist: they can't help it; they need treatment); :D
• yes compensate everyone; the "guarantors" to pay.
:)

I generally agree with many of your points here but I think it is very impiortant to recognise that the post-1960 attitide of the Enosis loving Cypriot I Wannabee Greek Traitors to the Republic had a part to play - not exclusive but a significant role - and which contributed to the initial division of the Island in 1963. Sadly there are still some of these sad malaccas about today.

yes, Turkey exploited it for all it was worth and no doubT spread FUD amongst the Kibrilisi, Fear in particular being the main weapn, and I dont just mean fear of Greek Cypriots but fear of of the TMT in those who were not happy to follow a takist line.


stud... u misconstrued wot i said. i am talking about TODAY. turkey is solely responsible for the division. yes shit happened in the 60s, 50s and all the way back to that fateful day in 1571. but today it is modern turkey who is to blame; and all this "he-said-she-said" from two generations ago is just cover for their illegalities. and yes there are malakes about in every country. no one's advocating carving up britain because of the bnp. or usa 'cos of the kkk.
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Re: Incredible ..........

Postby B25 » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:20 pm

DTA wrote: I am sick of people calling them anotolian peasants - I do find that offensive


I apologise I must agree with you here, that should have read Illegal Anatolian Peasants. Is that better now ? :D :D

No TCs here, really who gives a fuck, if they want to be it is a free forum. You have a serious problem you need help.

The TCs / Turkey have no leg to stand on (sorry I meant peg), and you expect us to cry over this??? In the words of the famous DTA 'Go Fuck yourself'.

Have a nice F day.

Oh, and who is the hypocrit here, you verbally abuse Kiks for speaking up against the Turks and the TCs, yet you are happy for Banana man to kick the GCs in the teeth??? GFY matey.
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