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BBC poll shows support for Palestinian state

Postby halil » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:21 pm

Across the 19 countries surveyed, 49% supported the proposal while 21% said their government should oppose it.

http://www.globescan.com/news_archives/ ... palestine/

In terms of countries with a higher level of opposition, Americans (45% support, 36% oppose) and Indians (32% support, 25% opposed, with many undecided) are the most likely to prefer that their government vote against recognizing Palestine, along with Filipinos (56% support vs 36% oppose) and Brazilians (41% support vs 26% oppose).

Public opinion in the three EU Member States included in the poll is strikingly similar on this issue: France (54% support vs 20% oppose), Germany (53% vs 28%) and the UK (53% vs 26%).

Russian public opinion is at variance with this picture, however, with over half not giving a definite answer and believing that ‘it depends’, that their country should abstain, or simply not being able to offer a view. Those favouring a ‘for’ vote outweigh their counterparts ‘against’ by a ratio of just under three to one (37% vs 13%), with the remainder undecided.

In Latin America, opinion is also equivocal, with much of the public undecided - particularly in Chile, with 52% in neither the ‘for’ nor ‘against’ camps. Nonetheless, the balance of opinion is still towards a vote for recognition rather than against. The percentage favouring a ‘for’ vote is highest in Mexico (45% vs 15%), followed by Brazil (41% vs 26%), Chile (39% vs 9%) and then Peru (38% vs 18%).

In Canada (46% vs 25%) and Australia (50% vs 17%), opinion is broadly in line with the global average.

Meanwhile, in Ghana there is a higher than average proportion advocating an ‘against’ vote (33%). This is the third-highest proportion seen in the poll after the US and the Philippines.

The Palestinians are seeking international recognition of their state based on 1967 borders - the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip.
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Re: BBC poll shows support for Palestinian state

Postby halil » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:46 pm

halil wrote:Across the 19 countries surveyed, 49% supported the proposal while 21% said their government should oppose it.

http://www.globescan.com/news_archives/ ... palestine/

In terms of countries with a higher level of opposition, Americans (45% support, 36% oppose) and Indians (32% support, 25% opposed, with many undecided) are the most likely to prefer that their government vote against recognizing Palestine, along with Filipinos (56% support vs 36% oppose) and Brazilians (41% support vs 26% oppose).

Public opinion in the three EU Member States included in the poll is strikingly similar on this issue: France (54% support vs 20% oppose), Germany (53% vs 28%) and the UK (53% vs 26%).

Russian public opinion is at variance with this picture, however, with over half not giving a definite answer and believing that ‘it depends’, that their country should abstain, or simply not being able to offer a view. Those favouring a ‘for’ vote outweigh their counterparts ‘against’ by a ratio of just under three to one (37% vs 13%), with the remainder undecided.

In Latin America, opinion is also equivocal, with much of the public undecided - particularly in Chile, with 52% in neither the ‘for’ nor ‘against’ camps. Nonetheless, the balance of opinion is still towards a vote for recognition rather than against. The percentage favouring a ‘for’ vote is highest in Mexico (45% vs 15%), followed by Brazil (41% vs 26%), Chile (39% vs 9%) and then Peru (38% vs 18%).

In Canada (46% vs 25%) and Australia (50% vs 17%), opinion is broadly in line with the global average.

Meanwhile, in Ghana there is a higher than average proportion advocating an ‘against’ vote (33%). This is the third-highest proportion seen in the poll after the US and the Philippines.

The Palestinians are seeking international recognition of their state based on 1967 borders - the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip.


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Re: BBC poll shows support for Palestinian state

Postby Piratis » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:14 pm

Halil, if the UN recognizes the borders of a Palestinian state, do you believe that Israel should respect those borders or that it should continue to occupy them and continue to bring Israeli settlers there, just like Turkey does in the north part of Republic of Cyprus?

The Turks show no regard to UN resolutions. The UN recognizes the borders of Republic of Cyprus as encompassing the whole island, but Turkey refuses to accept this and they insist on illegally occupying part of our country.

Also, what do you think about Kurdistan? What would Turks vote if the Kurds asked from the UN to recognize a separate Kurdish state on the lands where the Kurds inhabited for 1000s of years, long before any Turks invaded their homeland?

The Turks are about 1000 times worst than the Israelis. They murdered 1000s and ethnically cleansed 100s of thuosands so they can steal our lands and declare them as their own. They murdered 10s of thousands of Kurds and they recognize far less rights to the Kurds than Israel recognizes to the Palestinians. They commited genocides against millions of Arminians and other Christian populations in Asia Minor, and they continue to refuse to recognize their crimes.
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Re: BBC poll shows support for Palestinian state

Postby AlanwithoneL » Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:26 pm

Piratis wrote:Halil, if the UN recognizes the borders of a Palestinian state, do you believe that Israel should respect those borders or that it should continue to occupy them and continue to bring Israeli settlers there, just like Turkey does in the north part of Republic of Cyprus?

The Turks show no regard to UN resolutions. The UN recognizes the borders of Republic of Cyprus as encompassing the whole island, but Turkey refuses to accept this and they insist on illegally occupying part of our country.

Also, what do you think about Kurdistan? What would Turks vote if the Kurds asked from the UN to recognize a separate Kurdish state on the lands where the Kurds inhabited for 1000s of years, long before any Turks invaded their homeland?

The Turks are about 1000 times worst than the Israelis. They murdered 1000s and ethnically cleansed 100s of thuosands so they can steal our lands and declare them as their own. They murdered 10s of thousands of Kurds and they recognize far less rights to the Kurds than Israel recognizes to the Palestinians. They commited genocides against millions of Arminians and other Christian populations in Asia Minor, and they continue to refuse to recognize their crimes.

Why are you telling us this? We are Cypriots. As far as we're concerned Turks never harmed us and they were the only people that cared and came to our rescue.

For us the GC's are our worst nightmare, they tried killing us all in the past and we are concerned they may try again. So in essence to the majority of TC's you are a million times worse than Israelis.
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Re: BBC poll shows support for Palestinian state

Postby CBBB » Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:34 pm

AlanwithoneL wrote:
Piratis wrote:Halil, if the UN recognizes the borders of a Palestinian state, do you believe that Israel should respect those borders or that it should continue to occupy them and continue to bring Israeli settlers there, just like Turkey does in the north part of Republic of Cyprus?

The Turks show no regard to UN resolutions. The UN recognizes the borders of Republic of Cyprus as encompassing the whole island, but Turkey refuses to accept this and they insist on illegally occupying part of our country.

Also, what do you think about Kurdistan? What would Turks vote if the Kurds asked from the UN to recognize a separate Kurdish state on the lands where the Kurds inhabited for 1000s of years, long before any Turks invaded their homeland?

The Turks are about 1000 times worst than the Israelis. They murdered 1000s and ethnically cleansed 100s of thuosands so they can steal our lands and declare them as their own. They murdered 10s of thousands of Kurds and they recognize far less rights to the Kurds than Israel recognizes to the Palestinians. They commited genocides against millions of Arminians and other Christian populations in Asia Minor, and they continue to refuse to recognize their crimes.

Why are you telling us this? We are Cypriots. As far as we're concerned Turks never harmed us and they were the only people that cared and came to our rescue.

For us the GC's are our worst nightmare, they tried killing us all in the past and we are concerned they may try again. So in essence to the majority of TC's you are a million times worse than Israelis.


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Re: BBC poll shows support for Palestinian state

Postby kurupetos » Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:37 pm

If our Israeli allies object to this, we should not support it. F*cking Arabs can go to hell.
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Re: BBC poll shows support for Palestinian state

Postby Piratis » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:07 pm

AlanwithoneL wrote:
Piratis wrote:Halil, if the UN recognizes the borders of a Palestinian state, do you believe that Israel should respect those borders or that it should continue to occupy them and continue to bring Israeli settlers there, just like Turkey does in the north part of Republic of Cyprus?

The Turks show no regard to UN resolutions. The UN recognizes the borders of Republic of Cyprus as encompassing the whole island, but Turkey refuses to accept this and they insist on illegally occupying part of our country.

Also, what do you think about Kurdistan? What would Turks vote if the Kurds asked from the UN to recognize a separate Kurdish state on the lands where the Kurds inhabited for 1000s of years, long before any Turks invaded their homeland?

The Turks are about 1000 times worst than the Israelis. They murdered 1000s and ethnically cleansed 100s of thuosands so they can steal our lands and declare them as their own. They murdered 10s of thousands of Kurds and they recognize far less rights to the Kurds than Israel recognizes to the Palestinians. They commited genocides against millions of Arminians and other Christian populations in Asia Minor, and they continue to refuse to recognize their crimes.

Why are you telling us this? We are Cypriots. As far as we're concerned Turks never harmed us and they were the only people that cared and came to our rescue.

For us the GC's are our worst nightmare, they tried killing us all in the past and we are concerned they may try again. So in essence to the majority of TC's you are a million times worse than Israelis.


First of all you are the ones who tried to kill us, when you initiated the conflict in 1958 and you demanded that we should be annihilated from half of our island. You killed 100s of GCs during that conflict, we responded, and you had some 100s of causalities of your own. Your total casualties from the inter-communal conflict (which you started) and the war of 1974 (which you again you started) were not more than 1500, while our casualties were at least 3 times more, and that is without counting the missing, which are also probably dead.

And that is just for the last decades. If we include the whole history we can find 10s of thousands more Cypriots being butchered by the invading Turks and 100s of years of oppression by the Turks against us.

And that is just what the Turks did against Cypriots. Add to that what they did/do to the Kurds and the genocides of millions of Armenians and others and then you will see that Israelis are in fact angels compared to the Turks. As far as Cypriots go, we never left our own island to harm anybody. We only defended ourselves when we were attacked, so how can you even compare us with the Turks and their massive atrocities which resulted in the deaths of millions?
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Re: BBC poll shows support for Palestinian state

Postby AlanwithoneL » Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:40 pm

Piratis wrote:
AlanwithoneL wrote:
Piratis wrote:Halil, if the UN recognizes the borders of a Palestinian state, do you believe that Israel should respect those borders or that it should continue to occupy them and continue to bring Israeli settlers there, just like Turkey does in the north part of Republic of Cyprus?

The Turks show no regard to UN resolutions. The UN recognizes the borders of Republic of Cyprus as encompassing the whole island, but Turkey refuses to accept this and they insist on illegally occupying part of our country.

Also, what do you think about Kurdistan? What would Turks vote if the Kurds asked from the UN to recognize a separate Kurdish state on the lands where the Kurds inhabited for 1000s of years, long before any Turks invaded their homeland?

The Turks are about 1000 times worst than the Israelis. They murdered 1000s and ethnically cleansed 100s of thuosands so they can steal our lands and declare them as their own. They murdered 10s of thousands of Kurds and they recognize far less rights to the Kurds than Israel recognizes to the Palestinians. They commited genocides against millions of Arminians and other Christian populations in Asia Minor, and they continue to refuse to recognize their crimes.

Why are you telling us this? We are Cypriots. As far as we're concerned Turks never harmed us and they were the only people that cared and came to our rescue.

For us the GC's are our worst nightmare, they tried killing us all in the past and we are concerned they may try again. So in essence to the majority of TC's you are a million times worse than Israelis.


First of all you are the ones who tried to kill us, when you initiated the conflict in 1958 and you demanded that we should be annihilated from half of our island. You killed 100s of GCs during that conflict, we responded, and you had some 100s of causalities of your own. Your total casualties from the inter-communal conflict (which you started) and the war of 1974 (which you again you started) were not more than 1500, while our casualties were at least 3 times more, and that is without counting the missing, which are also probably dead.

And that is just for the last decades. If we include the whole history we can find 10s of thousands more Cypriots being butchered by the invading Turks and 100s of years of oppression by the Turks against us.

And that is just what the Turks did against Cypriots. Add to that what they did/do to the Kurds and the genocides of millions of Armenians and others and then you will see that Israelis are in fact angels compared to the Turks. As far as Cypriots go, we never left our own island to harm anybody. We only defended ourselves when we were attacked, so how can you even compare us with the Turks and their massive atrocities which resulted in the deaths of millions?



Sorry but no point in continuing with this. You are obviously a very disturbed person with very little regard for others. You turn, twist and distort facts to suit your own agenda. THANK GOD FOR TURKEY AND GOD BLESS THE TURKISH ARMY, NAVY AND MOST OF ALL THE TURKISH AIRFORCE.
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