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by **Kikapu** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:12 pm

It was announced few days ago by the Turkish Press that Erdogan was going to be the first head of state to visit Libya since the fall of Gaddafi's regime, but while Erdogan has been too busy promoting himself as the saviour of the Muslims as the next "Messiah" in the region by doing "victory laps" in Egypt and Tunisia by giving virtual war victory speeches against Israel and before making a grand entrance to Libya like a supreme commander on a Sherman Tank after a brutal battle, which Erdogan refused to take part against his former friend Gaddafi, for the Libyans to follow him in his over bloated egoistic footsteps, with their oil fields, of course. But while Erdogan was promoting his own importance to the Egyptian and Tunisians by giving anti Israeli speeches and proposing them "Democracy" Turkey style (God forbid), Cameron and Sarkozy flew into Libya today totally unannounced ahead of Erdogan's visit, for them to take the spotlight as being the first heads of states to visit Libya and take credit for aiding the rebels in overthrowing the Gaddafi regime, as well as their share of claim on the Libyan oil. I suspect Erdogan will now cut his trip to Tunisia short and go to Libya before all the oil is gone to the Allies, (oops, too late) who did in fact aid the rebels to take Libya away from Erdogan's friend, Gaddafi. Now Erdogan's worst fear will be, that the only oil left in Libya to stake any claims for piece of the "spoils of war" by the time Erdogan gets there, may well come in the form of Olive Oil in 1 litre bottles.

by **Hermes** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:18 pm

I wonder if Erdogan is rushing to Libya to return the "Al-Gadaffi International Prize for Human Rights" he received from the ex-Libyan dictator and psychopath last year...

by **halil** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:11 pm

Europe, fear of Erdogan :!:

by **halil** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:17 pm

Libyan rebels are trained by Turkish Special forces............

by **halil** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:57 pm

Hermes wrote:I wonder if Erdogan is rushing to Libya to return the "Al-Gadaffi International Prize for Human Rights" he received from the ex-Libyan dictator and psychopath last year...

by **Hermes** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:26 pm

^^^
Yes but Erdogan was honoured with the former Libyan leader's special human rights award. Will Erdogan hand it back? Will he hand back the 250,000 dollars he also received? What do you think?

by **Kikapu** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:21 pm

The only difference is Halil, is that Gaddafi's former friends from the west now kicked his ass which Erdogan did not want them to do to his old friend and was against the NATO attack on Gaddafi to help the rebels. But as soon as it became obvious that Gaddafi was going to get his ass kicked for good, then Erdogan joined in, but remained at a distance from any military action, which is now why those NATO members who did take part in the fight are the ones taking the glory and a share in Libyan oil while Erdogan is giving lectures to the Arabs how great he is in verbally bashing Israel. Looks like Erdogan once again will be arriving to the party just a little bit too late, right after Cameron and Sarkozy leave Libya with Libyan oil contracts in their pockets and Erdogan left with giving more speeches on how he is going to teach Israel a lesson. :roll:

by **humanist** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:34 pm

Halil your posts show how fake you are a s a Cypriot.

by **Kikapu** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:54 am

Sarkozy in bid to steal the Libya show from Turkey

“This is constitutes stealing the show. The man [Sarkozy] obviously wanted to arrive earlier than Mr. Erdoğan. Right from the beginning, Sarkozy has claimed Libya as if it is a country on which he is the only one to have a say. In the meantime, he, however, ignored Tunisia and Egypt,” a senior Turkish diplomat told Today's Zaman on Thursday.

“This is a show. But what matters is following up on the messages delivered during the visits to these countries. We are not going to those countries to exploit them. We are going there as a follow up to our earlier messages of solidarity. They are after the petrol, but we are after the emergence of a democratic society in Libya. Sarkozy's concerns over the upcoming 2012 presidential elections are also a key factor in this hastily planned visit,” the diplomat said.

Deputy Chairman of the ruling Justice and Development Party (AK Party) Reha Denemeç, meanwhile, called the attitudes of Sarkozy and Cameron “childish,” arguing that both leaders have been uneasy with growing clout of Turkey in the region.

“They [Sarkozy and Cameron] are uneasy with increasing activities of Turkey in the region. While they are trying to act quickly, they are behaving like a child whose toy is grabbed from his hands. The peoples of the region are also aware of this situation,” Denemeç said in remarks aired by the Cihan TV Network on Thursday.

Turkey's approach towards the region is no different than that of the Ottoman Empire, Denemeç said.

“Since the Ottomans didn't establish a system based on exploitation in this region, the relations are warm today too. Turkey is acting together with the peoples of these countries with an understanding of doing business together and does not intend to exploit these countries,” he added.

France's finance minister said the visit was not about landing economic deals but about showing support for the former rebels who ousted Gaddafi.

Francois Baroin, speaking on France-Info radio, said the visit "is a strong gesture, it is a historic moment to go to Libya today." Asked whether there were economic reasons for the visit, Baroin said, "we are not at that stage."