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[yialousa1971]

All Turks must go back to Mongolia, back to your cold waste lands. Never trust a Jew, a picture says a thousand words!



The Turk and Jew above seem to be getting on.

[supporttheunderdog]

All Turks must go back to Mongolia, back to your cold waste lands. Never trust a Jew, a picture says a thousand words!



The Turk and Jew above seem to be getting on.

You are just a miserable racist - and ttbofmkiab I am neither Turk nor Jew - at least probably no more than you are..

[yialousa1971]

All Turks must go back to Mongolia, back to your cold waste lands. Never trust a Jew, a picture says a thousand words!



The Turk and Jew above seem to be getting on.

You are just a miserable racist - and ttbofmkiab I am neither Turk nor Jew - at least probably no more than you are..

No you are a racist who supports Turks.

[Hermes]

With due respect, Turkey is in Cyprus as a result of the GC's attempt to ethnically cleanse the TC"s...

I don't think anyone is fooled anymore by Turkish claims that it invaded Cyprus to "save" the T/Cs. In reality the only systematic large-scale orchestrated action in Cyprus which can be termed a crime against humanity is the ethnic cleansing carried out against 200,000 Greek Cypriots by the Turkish army in 1974.

In 1974 Turkey unhesitatingly made it clear it had no interest in the "Treaty of Guarantee" whose violation had been the technical grounds for an invasion. Instead it wanted partition immediately and unleashed an all-out assault on the restored legal government of Cyprus ethnically cleansing 200,000 Greek Cypriots in the process.

Thus we have a pretext for partition and dismemberment that cannot be justified under the terms of Turkey's supposed guardianship of the island which was then followed later by the importing of settlers in breach of the Geneva Convention, expropriation of property and setting up an illegal state.

It's clear to the rest of the world that the Turkish "peace operation" in Cyprus was nothing but a vicious, calculated land-grab possible only be ethnically cleansing the Greek Cypriots from northern Cyprus. It should be clear to Turkey that after 35 years no-one believes their lies about why the Turkish troops are still in Cyprus...

[B25]

Piratis for Vice President.

Ok, we have a government forming, so far one TC and one GC.

keep it up lads.

And yes, regarding the BoP, I was just thinking about your words yesterday and thought to myself, Piratis had a point all long.

Someone told me (and am yet to get a name) that it was predicted that a major war would break our in the middle east in which Israel and greec would be involved.

The end result was Cyprus survived it and Turkey was wiped from the face of the earth. Well there may be some truth in this after all.
Time will tell.

Just a final point: if anyone doubts the Israelis, big mistake, they don't give 2 sh*ts about anyone and will defend themselves. They have the money, technology, weapons and brains to do it with.

Turkey is making a very big mistake trying it on with Israel.
God helps us all.

The only thing that makes sense is your plea for help from up above. Turkey being wiped from the face of the earth? Are you really expecting us to take you seriously by such childish remarks? I'm no great fan of Turkey or its people but an undeniable fact is that Israel alone is the root cause for almost all the unrest in the world, not in their region but on the whole planet. If ever there was a war it is more likely that Israel would be wiped off the face of the earth. Don't you not think that the whole Arab world would like this to happen? Israel may have air supremacy but wars aren't won just in the air.

It would be silly of anyone to wish for war between any two nations, I know the fanatics think different and talk big on their PC's but let me tell you now, if this was to be resolved by war Turkey will unleash hell on Israel and there isn't much that America could do about it. If I was a GC I'd pray for a peaceful resolution to all this rather than war. Be careful for what you wish for.

Enough of your tough guy talk, No where did I say I wanted war, it's the last thing any normal person would want. Do you make me laugh though, Turkey unleash hell on Israel, my arse, and the Arab world blah blah blah, yes, what have the Arab been able to do to date, Jack shit thats what.

No crawl back under the stone you just came from and watch things unfold, if there is a clash between T and I my bet is that Israel will be the last one standing. The Turkish barbarians have shown us what they stand for in '74 and it isn't peace and harmony. Even your leader Mr E. thinks you are parasites, his words not mine.

Your motherland is a bully who can only pick on much smaller guys and you think you are tough guys, well pick on Israel if you dare.

[Hermes]

3) We should help others to keep Turkey out of EU and push her as far from the West as possible and at the same time support the Kurds in their struggle for freedom. A regional conflict is the most possible way of liberating the north part of Cyprus and these two factors are important if we want to be on the winning side.

1- Helping to keep Turkey out of the EU is just plain racist and pushing her further into the hands of the Islamists or the (east) or whatever you want to call it is even more idiotic.

2 -So your saying we should encourage a war within the region rather than trying to solve problems through peaceful means?

3- Yes we should support Kurdish freedom whilst at the same time support the freedom and statehood of the Palestinians, However now that the ROC is in bed with Isreal im sure they will forget about their initial principled stance on the matter.

1. Turkey has only been too willing to align itself with fundamentalist Islamic and terrorist forces in the region. It cannot have it both ways. Turkey cannot aspire to join the EU and simultaneously give succour to Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah while cultivating a vicious anti-Semitism at home. It just doesn't work.

2. If Turkey implodes through its own belligerence and arrogance few would shed a tear. Certainly no Greek Cypriot would give a damn if Turkey undermines itself in a regional conflagration.

3. The RoC has always had good relations with the Arab world but has little to show for it. But it would be negligent to ignore the changing balance of power in the region. The RoC has seen an opportunity and seized it.The RoC is right to seek protection from Turkish designs through a strategic realignment with Israel, the EU and the US. It only serves to enhance and reinforce Cypriot sovereignty which Turkey is keen to undermine.

[supporttheunderdog]

All Turks must go back to Mongolia, back to your cold waste lands. Never trust a Jew, a picture says a thousand words!



The Turk and Jew above seem to be getting on.

You are just a miserable racist - and ttbofmkiab I am neither Turk nor Jew - at least probably no more than you are..

No you are a racist who supports Turks.

No I don't -

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- i have consistently condemned the illegal events of 1974 - both the madness of the coup/Greek Invasion and the follow up Turkish Invasion and consequent "settlement" by the Anatolians and the Carpet B*ggers, so wind your neck in.

[AlanwithoneL]

Piratis for Vice President.

Ok, we have a government forming, so far one TC and one GC.

keep it up lads.

And yes, regarding the BoP, I was just thinking about your words yesterday and thought to myself, Piratis had a point all long.

Someone told me (and am yet to get a name) that it was predicted that a major war would break our in the middle east in which Israel and greec would be involved.

The end result was Cyprus survived it and Turkey was wiped from the face of the earth. Well there may be some truth in this after all.
Time will tell.

Just a final point: if anyone doubts the Israelis, big mistake, they don't give 2 sh*ts about anyone and will defend themselves. They have the money, technology, weapons and brains to do it with.

Turkey is making a very big mistake trying it on with Israel.
God helps us all.

The only thing that makes sense is your plea for help from up above. Turkey being wiped from the face of the earth? Are you really expecting us to take you seriously by such childish remarks? I'm no great fan of Turkey or its people but an undeniable fact is that Israel alone is the root cause for almost all the unrest in the world, not in their region but on the whole planet. If ever there was a war it is more likely that Israel would be wiped off the face of the earth. Don't you not think that the whole Arab world would like this to happen? Israel may have air supremacy but wars aren't won just in the air.

It would be silly of anyone to wish for war between any two nations, I know the fanatics think different and talk big on their PC's but let me tell you now, if this was to be resolved by war Turkey will unleash hell on Israel and there isn't much that America could do about it. If I was a GC I'd pray for a peaceful resolution to all this rather than war. Be careful for what you wish for.

Enough of your tough guy talk, No where did I say I wanted war, it's the last thing any normal person would want. Do you make me laugh though, Turkey unleash hell on Israel, my arse, and the Arab world blah blah blah, yes, what have the Arab been able to do to date, Jack shit thats what.

No crawl back under the stone you just came from and watch things unfold, if there is a clash between T and I my bet is that Israel will be the last one standing. The Turkish barbarians have shown us what they stand for in '74 and it isn't peace and harmony. Even your leader Mr E. thinks you are parasites, his words not mine.

Your motherland is a bully who can only pick on much smaller guys and you think you are tough guys, well pick on Israel if you dare.

What tough talk? Just stating facts as I know them. My motherland bullying is nothing new or extraordinary. We got bullied for decades, who gave a damn? We were insulted and humiliated on daily basis, so what? Who cared and did anything about it? Nobody, even Turkey took a long and painful 11 years to help us.

As for putting your money on Israel? I seriously recommend you research this on Google before wasting your money. Do a search for "israel vs turkey who would win"

[Piratis]

the last thing that would 'solve problems' is war.

Turkey doesn't seem to agree with you. They invaded Cyprus in 1974 and they continue to maintain the war by maintaining their illegal occupation until today. They also constantly use their troops against the Kurds, destroying 1000s of Kurdish villages, and even invading the Kurds in Iraq. They constantly violate the airspace of Greece with their fighter jets and they constantly issue threats against their neighbors, like the recent threats of sending their navy to prevent Cyprus from extracting natural gas from her own Exclusive Economic Zone.

If Turkey was a peaceful nation then there wouldn't be a Cyprus Problem and we wouldn't be having this discussion now. Unfortunately the Turks are not a peaceful nation which means liberating the north part of our island by peaceful means is not an option.

if this was to be resolved by war Turkey will unleash hell on Israel and there isn't much that America could do about it.

Do you think that Erdogan also thinks like you? I wish he does!

With due respect, Turkey is in Cyprus as a result of the GC's attempt to ethnically cleanse the TC"s. I find id very strange that the year most significant to the problems, 1963, is never mentioned by GC's, is this some kind brainwashing within your education system? 1974 keeps popping up never is there reference made to 1963. As I said I'm not a great fan of Turkey or its policy in regards with the Kurds. One undeniable fact is that each and every TC is forever grateful for Turkeys intervention and prevention of our extermination by our GC neighbours.

Please bear in mind, the TC's have a share in the natural resources found within Cyprus waters. I think you'll find USA endorses this.

Not a single TC was killed in 1974 until the 20th of July when Turkey with the help of TCs invaded Cyprus and started to murder people by the 1000s and ethnically cleansing Cypriots by the 100s of thousands.

As far as the inter-communal conflict goes, it did not start in 1963 as your propaganda claims, but in 1958 when broadcasts from Turkey called on the TCs to start a civil war and murder Greek Cypriots. In that year the TCs burned down homes and shops and massacred GCs, while at the same time demanding that we should be ethnically cleansed from half of our island.

You started that conflict and we just responded to it. Furthermore this conflict was over by 1968, 6 whole years before the Turkish invasion.

The fact is that the Turks started all conflicts in Cyprus. From their very first invasion in 1570, to the 300+ years of oppression that followed until 1878, to the inter-communal conflict which they started 80 years later in 1958, and finally to their last invasion in 1974 and the decades of illegal occupation that followed. Out of all this sea of crimes you committed against the people of Cyprus with many 10s of thousands of murders and 100s of years of oppression, you want to present yourself as supposedly the victims because during a conflict which you started you also had a comparatively small amount of casualties?

The Turks have murdered 10s of thousands of Cypriots, many 10s of thousands of Kurds, they committed genocides against Armenians and not only by killing millions, and then you have the nerve to come in here and present yourselves as the nice ones who are going to give lessons to others? The Israelis are Angels compared to the Turks. Only Nazi Germany can compare to the Turkish state, but at least the Germans have recognized their wrong doings, while the Turks not only refuse to recognize the massive crimes and genocides they committed in the past, not only they continue to commit crimes and illegalities against Cyprus and Kurds as we speak, but they also threaten many of their neighbors with even more crimes and illegalities in the future.

[AlanwithoneL]

the last thing that would 'solve problems' is war.

Turkey doesn't seem to agree with you. They invaded Cyprus in 1974 and they continue to maintain the war by maintaining their illegal occupation until today. They also constantly use their troops against the Kurds, destroying 1000s of Kurdish villages, and even invading the Kurds in Iraq. They constantly violate the airspace of Greece with their fighter jets and they constantly issue threats against their neighbors, like the recent threats of sending their navy to prevent Cyprus from extracting natural gas from her own Exclusive Economic Zone.

If Turkey was a peaceful nation then there wouldn't be a Cyprus Problem and we wouldn't be having this discussion now. Unfortunately the Turks are not a peaceful nation which means liberating the north part of our island by peaceful means is not an option.

if this was to be resolved by war Turkey will unleash hell on Israel and there isn't much that America could do about it.

Do you think that Erdogan also thinks like you? I wish he does!

With due respect, Turkey is in Cyprus as a result of the GC's attempt to ethnically cleanse the TC"s. I find id very strange that the year most significant to the problems, 1963, is never mentioned by GC's, is this some kind brainwashing within your education system? 1974 keeps popping up never is there reference made to 1963. As I said I'm not a great fan of Turkey or its policy in regards with the Kurds. One undeniable fact is that each and every TC is forever grateful for Turkeys intervention and prevention of our extermination by our GC neighbours.

Please bear in mind, the TC's have a share in the natural resources found within Cyprus waters. I think you'll find USA endorses this.

Not a single TC was killed in 1974 until the 20th of July when Turkey with the help of TCs invaded Cyprus and started to murder people by the 1000s and ethnically cleansing Cypriots by the 100s of thousands.

As far as the inter-communal conflict goes, it did not start in 1963 as your propaganda claims, but in 1958 when broadcasts from Turkey called on the TCs to start a civil war and murder Greek Cypriots. In that year the TCs burned down homes and shops and massacred GCs, while at the same time demanding that we should be ethnically cleansed from half of our island.

You started that conflict and we just responded to it. Furthermore this conflict was over by 1968, 6 whole years before the Turkish invasion.

The fact is that the Turks started all conflicts in Cyprus. From their very first invasion in 1570, to the 300+ years of oppression that followed until 1878, to the inter-communal conflict which they started 80 years later in 1958, and finally to their last invasion in 1974 and the decades of illegal occupation that followed. Out of all this sea of crimes you committed against the people of Cyprus with many 10s of thousands of murders and 100s of years of oppression, you want to present yourself as supposedly the victims because during a conflict which you started you also had a comparatively small amount of casualties?

The Turks have murdered 10s of thousands of Cypriots, many 10s of thousands of Kurds, they committed genocides against Armenians and not only by killing millions, and then you have the nerve to come in here and present yourselves as the nice ones who are going to give lessons to others? The Israelis are Angels compared to the Turks. Only Nazi Germany can compare to the Turkish state, but at least the Germans have recognized their wrong doings, while the Turks not only refuse to recognize the massive crimes and genocides they committed in the past, not only they continue to commit crimes and illegalities against Cyprus and Kurds as we speak, but they also threaten many of their neighbors with even more crimes and illegalities in the future.

Look, I don't blame you for the way you feel about Turkey and you shouldn't blame for the way TC's feel about GC's. To you even the Israelis are angels compared to Turks, the rest of the world would probably disagree with you but hey, to you anything Turkish is evil. Thats fine by me.

It shouldn't then surprise or upset you if TC's worst nightmare are the GC's. I have no idea how old you are or how much of the truth has been told to you by your parents, teachers or your church but let me make it quite clear to you, the TC's were no better than what the Palestinians find themselves in today. My grandparents, parents, the elderly I have day to day contact with cannot stress enough how vulnerable the TC community was, they were spat at, sworn at, slapped and beaten to a pulp on daily basis, so to the TC's the Israelis are angels compared to GC's. Thats just the way of the world.