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[Sotos]

So lets see ... in 1974 Turkey invaded Cyprus killing many thousands and ethnically cleansing 200.000 people in order to stop a "genocide" which happened... a decade earlier (!!!!) and where some 100s of people died. I understand that you have been brainwashed ... but at least you should have some common sense and try to use a bit your brain before you repeat the bullshit they taught you!

[GreekIslandGirl]

There is no talking to someone who has closed their eyes to things they don't want to believe.

Both sides of my family, TC and GC were witness to the atrocities of '63 and '64. They are well documented by Turkish, Greek and British authors. There are the mass TC graves found by the UN. There is countless evidence and the personal accounts of people still alive who lived through this.

For the record, though I think it crazy that you want to compare the 1960's with events of over 600 years ago, the Greeks supported the Ottomans overthrowing the Venetians because of the oppression they lived under with Venetian rule.

There's a calculation (can search on CF) you can do with the few TCs, a minority of ~15% (80,000 people?) of the population who killed some several hundred GCs in the 'inter-communal' conflicts making one TC a murderer per fewer than 10 TC people. Do the maths for GCs killing TCs and you might discover that the TCs are not too different to the murderous Ottomans because there are far fewer GC murderers in the population according to the numbers. Include the thousands of GCs killed in 1974 and we find that the TC as a "community" are still EXACTLY the same as the invader Ottomans in behaviour!

[newgeneration]

You have drained the life out of me! Your accounts are very one sided and I am finding particularly on this forum history is being re written to avoid the events leading up to 1974.

Goodnight.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Goodnight

[kurupetos]

Goodnight

...and good luck. She will need it.

[newgeneration]

There is also the common sense calculation that a refugee community outnumbered 10 to 1 would have found it physically impossible to kill hundreds of thousands of people. Let's also take into account the disarming of the Turks who had no way of protecting themselves other than to move from village to village as refugees to try and escape harm.

[Sotos]

There is also the common sense calculation that a refugee community outnumbered 10 to 1 would have found it physically impossible to kill hundreds of thousands of people. Let's also take into account the disarming of the Turks who had no way of protecting themselves other than to move from village to village as refugees to try and escape harm.

What "refugee community" are you talking about? Those who killed 1000s of Cypriots were the Turkish invaders who outnumber Cypriots 100 to 1. The Turks send their armies and their settlers to Cyprus to kill Cypriots and steal our lands.

[Jerry]

There is also the common sense calculation that a refugee community outnumbered 10 to 1 would have found it physically impossible to kill hundreds of thousands of people. Let's also take into account the disarming of the Turks who had no way of protecting themselves other than to move from village to village as refugees to try and escape harm.

I think you will find that the events of 1963 have their root in the events of 1958. This is what the Americans in Nicosia had to say. http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/frus/frus ... prus2.html

It has been suggested that TCs had to be seen as victms of the GCs in order to force through partition, Denktash certainly didn't care how many of his own people died in order to achieve his aims.

[newgeneration]

Much propaganda on both sides has been suggested. However I have the personal accounts of my GC and TC grandparents, my parents and their sibling who lived through this.

[B25]

Much propaganda on both sides has been suggested. However I have the personal accounts of my GC and TC grandparents, my parents and their sibling who lived through this.

I guess being a bi product you are also fucked in the head. Obviously you only see the TC side, whats up were your GC grandparents harsh on you or summit??