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by **Nikitas** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:15 pm

Boulio is spot on! "by signing a agreement with the "trnc"turkey has just advertently committed Itself that a island has continental shelf and EEZ.THANKS TURKEY SO the Aegean islands have EEZ AND Continental SHELFS."

Absolutely correct. So Turkey recognises the Law of the Sea even if she has not signed it.

The threats proved empty because it is easy to push Cyprus around, with zero air force, but different when it comes to Israel with over 1000 jets and enough pilots to man them continuously for days.

The one I really enjoyed is the threat that their navy will patrol north of Cyprus. Are they implying that they have not patrolled this area since 1974? What a karaghiozi bunch! Next they will threaten with partition! Really, what will they think of next?

Where is Halil and VP to explain the situation to the rest of us.

by **Kikapu** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:24 pm

Nikitas wrote:Boulio is spot on! "by signing a agreement with the "trnc"turkey has just advertently committed Itself that a island has continental shelf and EEZ.THANKS TURKEY SO the Aegean islands have EEZ AND Continental SHELFS."

Absolutely correct. So Turkey recognises the Law of the Sea even if she has not signed it.

The threats proved empty because it is easy to push Cyprus around, with zero air force, but different when it comes to Israel with over 1000 jets and enough pilots to man them continuously for days.

The one I really enjoyed is the threat that their navy will patrol north of Cyprus. Are they implying that they have not patrolled this area since 1974? What a karaghiozi bunch! Next they will threaten with partition! Really, what will they think of next?

Where is Halil and VP to explain the situation to the rest of us.

I don't know about Halil, but VP would say "Watch and learn what Turkey will do next, because she is at her best when she is cornered and that she is always one step ahead of the GCs". :lol:

by **Nikitas** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:31 pm

Let us hope they are many steps ahead and that they do find oil. Then the onus will be on them to prove that they mean it when they say that mineral wealth belongs to all Cypriots.

Though in my heart of hearts I suspect that they mean it in the same way they mean it for properties.

by **Hermes** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:29 am

Erdogan quoted today:

Asked whether the military option was still on table, Erdoğan briefly replied, “Not at the moment.” When asked whether Turkey would stop Greek Cypriot exploration ships or simply conduct its own gas exploration, Erdoğan said, “No, we are doing our own exploration.”

You've got to laugh.

by **Nikitas** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:52 am

Exploration but when? It takes months, if not years of seismic surveys to locate probable deposits and promising geological formations. Then you have to plan the drilling, because it is done at various angles and depths. It is not a haphazard process you can decide today and carry out tomorrow.

It seems that the message given to Erdo and his government by major powers is that the Turks, convinced the world that partition, even a polite version under the guise of BBF, gives each side exclusive rights to its respective area, so now they cannot complain that the other side's area may have some oil etc. In short they are victims of their own partition policy. Maybe now they will realise that the best way to keep Cyprus out of the hands of possible adversaries is to agree to its neutrality and real independence. It will take time, but it seems that message is sinking in, slowly.

by **boomerang** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:39 am

my take on this arrogant is trapped under the weasels's influence...mark my words the weasel will be gone as he brought nothing but embarrassment to once a proud nation...

he took them down the road of becoming the laughing stock of the world with all his flip flops...

speaking of idiots, where is the biggest idiot of them all, bagis?... :lol:

...he seemed to disappear quicker than a penis exposed to a minus 15 degrees cold front... :lol:

by **repulsewarrior** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:19 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...Turkey falls under the weight of the ecomnomic turmoil their threats produce. World opinion turns so strongly against Turkey that the Kurds and Armenians make territorial gains which amount to Turkey being broken into pieces. Cyprus is free at last.

...Turkey will try and make another cheap land grab, like in '74, but using another ruse. We will marvel at their skill, but this time she will not be against a Junta boondoggled into a Cold War play; good neighbours are fewer today, it will not be so easy, even if in size Cyprus and/or Isreal are puny, to keep them from their gains ($$oil, not occupation) this will be a battle fought by the EU (and others).

by **AmericanGC** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:47 am

If the Turks threaten the Nobel crew they will have a lot more to worry about than Israel, Greece or Cyprus.If the Nobel crew puts out a distress call the United States Navy Sixth Fleet will respond to protect the crew. I don't think the Turks are stupid enough to act against the US Navy but you never know. If they do the Sixth Fleet has enough fire power to put the entire Turkish Navy at the bottom of the ocean next to bin laden.

by **Nikitas** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:38 am

American,

The firepower of a US carrier group must be known to the Turkish military, it is the politicians who do not know or maybe they pretend not to know. A carrier group has more ships than the entire Turkish navy. THey should look it up on Wikipedia or some such.

by **Capt J Sparrow** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:33 am

Nikitas wrote:American,

The firepower of a US carrier group must be known to the Turkish military, it is the politicians who do not know or maybe they pretend not to know. A carrier group has more ships than the entire Turkish navy. THey should look it up on Wikipedia or some such.

Personally, I don't believe the Turkish Military or their politicians are as silly as they portray to us all. Perhaps, their antics are to capture Middle eastern public opinion, or perhaps there is some method to their portrayed madness.

But one things for sure. Due to Greece's and Cyprus' lack of political will, their antics have managed to place a number of issues such as the Greek/Cypriot EEZ into a Grey 'disputed' area. You notice that the second they tried to pull this over Israel, and even question its naval blockade, Israel was quick to send a very clear message that such provocations will not be tolerated and that if they attempted to behave in such a manner, then some of their navy shops will end up as tourist attractions as popular dive sites at the bottom of the Med.

They get away with such things with Greece and Cyprus, but not with Israel.

Over the last few weeks, we have seen Turkey take issue with Greece, Cyprus and Israel. And by default, because of Israel, they have taken issue with the US and others, including the EU.