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Cyprus Natural Gas / Oil - What will happen?

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Cyprus will get natural gas / oil. Turkey will do nothing more than empty threads.
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Turkey will stop Cyprus from getting any gas / oil by blackmailing Cyprus.
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Turkey will stop Cyprus from getting any gas / oil by using her navy.
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Turkey will try to stop Cyprus from getting gas / oil by using her navy but other countries (Israel, USA etc) will respond and Turkey will have her ass kicked.
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No gas or oil will be found
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Gas / oil will be found but Cyprus will gain very little from it. The Americans etc will take most of it.
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There will be an all out war and Cyprus will lose big time.
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There will be an all out war and at the end of it the occupied part of Cyprus will be liberated.
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Re: Cyprus Natural Gas / Oil - What will happen?

Postby Hermes » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:15 pm

Lit wrote:Turkey threatens offshore oil drilling with naval guard...

As one analyst puts it:

"This threat was mostly a symbolic way for Turkey to hit back at the Greek Cypriots without directly challenging the US," said Hubert Faustmann, a political analyst at the University of Nicosia. "Drilling in waters where there may be no oil or gas could be a very expensive way to make a point..."

http://news.scotsman.com/news/Michael-P ... iclepage=2
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Re: Cyprus Natural Gas / Oil - What will happen?

Postby boomerang » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:26 pm

Nikitas wrote:Davut made it all the way to New York to hear it in person. Lay off is the message but I wonder what spin he will put on it.


correct nikitas....

The United States supports Cyprus’s right to explore for energy, it doesn’t believe that should undermine or interfere with the talks and agrees with all of those who believe that the best way to sort out the question of energy and economic development is through a comprehensive settlement of the Cyprus problem.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2011/09/172734.htm


davut would have been livid upon hearing this from the horses mouth... :lol:
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Re: Cyprus Natural Gas / Oil - What will happen?

Postby Hermes » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:28 pm

Nikitas wrote:Davut made it all the way to New York to hear it in person. Lay off is the message but I wonder what spin he will put on it.


How about this ...

Turkey's Davutoğlu says zero problems foreign policy successful
Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu has said Turkey's “zero problems” foreign policy -- a strategy that buffeted by the dispute with Israel and tensions with Syria -- is not falling apart and remains the correct strategy for Turkey's foreign policy.


http://www.todayszaman.com/news-257118- ... ssful.html
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Re: Cyprus Natural Gas / Oil - What will happen?

Postby kurupetos » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:52 pm

TCs have gas too...
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Re: Cyprus Natural Gas / Oil - What will happen?

Postby Lit » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:01 am

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SEPTEMBER 20, 2011

In Cyprus, Turkey Raises Stakes Over Oil Drilling

Ankara's threat of military action came on the heels of similar threats Turkey made in recent weeks to send naval vessels to escort future aid convoys that attempt to break Israel's naval blockade of Gaza. Those combative policies risk confrontation with Cyprus and Israel, as well tensions with the EU and Washington, diplomats said, noting that Cyprus is an EU member and Noble Engineering is a U.S. company.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... %3Darticle
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Re: Cyprus Natural Gas / Oil - What will happen?

Postby boomerang » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:10 am

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Following the decision of the Greek Cypriots to search for natural gas in Turkey Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) and signs a contract, plans to build Turkey's seismic ship, turned his eyes. Mineral Research and Exploration (MTA) is a joint project with the Defense Minister is continuing work on the seismic vessel. Turkey, which is surrounded by sea on three sides, fully equipped and modern research ship, able to search the seas of oil and natural gas. Energy Ministry sources, on the latest developments in the Mediterranean, further increasing the importance of seismic ship is pointing.

Land and sea and exploring the underground riches of Turkey General Directorate of Mineral Research and Exploration, MTA Seismic 1 (Hora), the ship, due to the economic life of the Istanbul Technical University, Maritime Faculty for training was complete. Seas of Turkey for wide-ranging research on the birth of the MTA needs a new ship, launched an initiative to get the latest equipment, a seismic vessel. Turkey seismic surveys on the high seas for the benefit of foreign ships. However, to refrain from foreign vessels, especially the disputed sea areas of research, studies makes it fail. In addition, foreign ships, which feature research and strategic information to be obtained and the findings have privacy, increases the importance of local seismic vessel.

Professor of Petroleum and Natural Gas Engineering Department of Istanbul Technical University. Dr. Abdurrahman Satman, said that Turkey should enter the marine technologies. "Three-side is surrounded by water, but do not have a research ship." Satman said, the underground resources of the seas must be investigated, it also noted that the advanced technological features have to research ships. In this context, the MTA is an important step which will be built seismic vessel, but the sale is insufficient to express, "I wish Turkey is a naval platform. Investigations we did with him. But it is an expensive technology, at least half a billion dollars in a project and an expensive operation. Billion-dollar projects are explained, such a step are dropped, if only for the seas. " he said.

The planned construction of the seismic vessel, a modern transportation and maneuvering systems, 2D/3D deep seismic, gravity and magnetic systems, imaging and detailed sea floor mapping systems, remote-controlled submersible (ROV) equipped. On the ship, water column and seafloor sampling equipment will be able to. Received data processing, analysis and assessment for geophysical, geological, oceanographic and biological research laboratories will take place. International standards will also be on board a helicopter landing area.

http://www.denizhaber.com.tr/guncel/37376/mta-arastirma-gemisi-sismik-gemi-hora-akdeniz-sondaj-kriz-turkiye.html


better be careful, the turkish dinghy is coming out for seismic tests... :D
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Re: Cyprus Natural Gas / Oil - What will happen?

Postby boomerang » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:59 am

all ship, including turkish rubber dinghies, movements are trackable here...

http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/#

the turkish dinghy goes by the name MTA Selen and was hanging around kos
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Re: Cyprus Natural Gas / Oil - What will happen?

Postby Nikitas » Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:56 am

Look at the text above, the reference about Turkey having coasts on three sides and therefore, the Turkish way of thinking goes, that gives it some sort of enhanced right to diminish the interests of other nations.

How about nations who have the sea not only on three sides, but ALL around them. What rights are the cynical Turks prepared to recognise to these nations? Apparently, as is shown by their reaction to the gas issue, none. Everything must pass through Ankara, according to the Davut and Erdo philosophy.

IT is obvious that other nations are not going to fall for that one. There are nations in the Mediterranean, Italy and Greece for instance, that have much longer coastlines than Turkey and if the kilometeres of coastline is the criterion of eminence they should have first call. But theory aside, what Turkey has been facing in New York ,at the UN, is a collective message: lay off. It will eventually sink in, it will even go t hrough Davut's thick head.

As for the zero problem policy being alive, then we must conclude that the term alive has been given a new meaning by Davut. Look at the neighbors-Greece, Armenia, Iran, Syria, Cyprus, Israel, Lebanon- that Turkey has created problems with and figure out if the term Zero fits the situation.
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Re: Cyprus Natural Gas / Oil - What will happen?

Postby boomerang » Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:34 pm

US backs Greek Cyprus over Turkey gas row

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton made the US position known in her talks with Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, the US official said.

The United States supports "the right" of Greek Cyprus to explore for energy, a senior US official said Monday after US-Turkish talks amid a dispute between Turkey and Greek Cyprus over such exploration.

The move has drawn fierce criticism from Turkey which said it would make a continental shelf delimitation agreement with the Turkish Cyprus in case Greek Cypriot administration launched drilling before a settlement was reached to end the 37-year old division of the island.

Noble Energy says that the eastern Mediterranean gas finds have been the world's biggest deepwater gas discoveries in the last decade, with a total of at least 25 tcf of gross mean resources.

The official also told reporters on condition of anonymity that the dispute should "not interfere" with talks aimed at resolving the political issues over the divided Mediterranean island.

Turkey has repeatedly called on Greek Cyprus to postpone its gas exploration, saying it has no right to do so while the island remains split, thus leaving the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus out of the picture.

Turkey has also warned that it could send battle ships to escort its own energy exploration vessels in the region.

The United States supports (Greek) Cyprus' right to explore for energy, and doesn't believe that should undermine or interfere with the talks to resolve the Cyprus problem, the official said.

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton made the US position known in her talks with Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, the US official said.

Cypriot leaders have been negotiating to reunify the island since 2008.

Agencies

http://www.worldbulletin.net/?aType=haber&ArticleID=79134

straight from the horses mouth...Arrogant and Co would be blowing gaskets, especially since the first warning regarding israel...

i wonder what it feels to be loved second best, something we got used to 37 years ago...this is new to the turks...hence the blowing of gasgets...

damn it where are those rubber dinghies?... :lol:
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Re: Cyprus Natural Gas / Oil - What will happen?

Postby Hermes » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:37 pm

Nikitas wrote:Davut made it all the way to New York to hear it in person. Lay off is the message but I wonder what spin he will put on it.


Well we have his answer. It turns out little Cyprus is provoking peace-loving Turkey by taking unilateral steps (I guess that means without Turkish permission). Damn those pesky Greek Cypriots who just won't accept that Turkey has dominion over their island and their seas...

Davutoğlu said he told Clinton that Greek Cypriot moves are “provocations,” as such unilateral moves would not bring peace to the region at a time when UN-led reunification negotiations between the Greek and Turkish Cypriot leaders are ongoing.

“We are exerting efforts for turning the east Mediterranean into an area of peace. For this to happen, progress should be made in the Middle East peace process and the Cyprus dispute should be resolved, but this shouldn’t happen through unilateral action.”


http://www.todayszaman.com/news-257394- ... eting.html?
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