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Israel turns tables on Turkey

Postby CBBB » Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:48 am

By M K Bhadrakumar

Israel has all but concluded that Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan is disinterested in reviving strategic ties between the two countries. This used to be a relationship that Israel desperately wanted to keep going as it was ideologically and politically useful, having been a unique one with a major Muslim power, and also highly lucrative, Turkey being a receptive market for Israeli goods and services, civilian and military.

Istanbul used to be a safe destination for Israeli tourists who could lower their guard and take relaxed holidays.

But the adamant stance that Erdogan has taken with regard to the Gaza flotilla fiasco last year, in which nine Turks were killed by Israeli marines, changed all that. Turkey wants Israel to apologize even after knowing the Israeli cabinet has decided against doing so.

Israel tried to make Ankara understand that there are things it will never do, and it got high-level American intermediaries to assuage Turkey's wounded pride, but Ankara went ahead to threaten that ties with Israel would be further downgraded.

Israel will not apologize because it would be tantamount to indicting the marines who killed the Turks. Washington tried to persuade Turkey not to be obdurate and at the same time cajoled Israel to indulge in some form of verbal jugglery, but the positions of the two protagonists remain unbridgeable.

At the root of it also lies the historic turnaround in Turkey's regional policies and its assertive claim to regain its Ottoman legacy in the Muslim Middle East, which puts it at odds with a range of Israeli core interests and vital concerns. Israel is now moving on with life, turning a new leaf in its regional policy, almost accepting that the relationship with Turkey is probably irretrievably lost unless there is a regime change in Ankara and the Islamist ruling party loses power.

Friend in the Mediterranean
True to style, Israel is looking around the region for comfort and companionship with anyone who might also have an intractable problem with Turkey - it didn't have to look far across the Mediterranean.

The two-day visit by the Foreign Minister of Cyprus, Erato Kozakou-Marcoullis, to Tel Aviv, which ended on Thursday, was much more than a routine call. The minister had just assumed charge in Nicosia and headed for Israel as soon as her customary first visit to Athens was out of the way.

Quite obviously, Nicosia and Athens (which has an ancient grudge to settle with Ankara) put their heads together and assessed that Israeli regional policies are on a remake. Cyprus and Greece have had indifferent ties with Israel, but a compelling commonality of interests is sailing into view. A realignment of regional powers is taking place in the eastern Mediterranean, the leitmotif being the "containment" of an increasingly assertive Turkey.

The backdrop is easy to understand. Cyprus contracted American oil company Noble Energy to prospect for gas in 350,000 hectares in the eastern Mediterranean, bordering Israel's economic zone where significant gas deposits have been discovered.

But Turkey butted in, saying the hydrocarbon resources also belonged to northern Cyprus (which has been under Turkish occupation since 1974) and Nicosia didn't have the right to exploit resources that belonged to Turkish Cypriots. Turkey threatened to intervene.

Regarding Kozakou-Marcoullis' mission to Tel Aviv, the Foreign Ministry in Nicosia said on Tuesday, "Particular emphasis will be placed in cooperation between Cyprus and Israel in energy issues, and the recent developments in the wider region." Nicosia factored in that the minister would receive a warm welcome in Tel Aviv, which she did from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Shimon Peres.

The statement issued by Netanyahu's office virtually underscored that Israel has a convergence of interests with Cyprus with regard to Ankara's perceived belligerence. Netanyahu said Israel and Cyprus had "overlapping interests". The statement said Netanyahu discussed with Kozakou-Marcoullis "the possible expansion of energy cooperation given that both countries have been blessed with natural gas reserves in their maritime economic zones".

Israeli Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman told Kozakou- Marcoullis that Israel "welcomed the exclusive economic zone agreement that was signed between the two countries ... [and] that this was a bilateral issue that must be implemented as soon as possible to enable the initiation of the gas production process for the benefit of both parties and that the agreement was signed in accordance with the rules and rights of international law."

Peres is due to visit Cyprus soon while Netanyahu hopes to visit Cyprus in the near future.

Snub to Ankara
The Israelis are pinning their hopes on Cyprus turning out to be a prize catch, being a member of the European Union, which works by consensus and is shortly expected to evolve a common stance apropos the expected Palestinian move at the United Nations General Assembly session in New York in September, seeking recognition for their "state".

This explosive diplomatic issue haunts Tel Aviv (and Washington) and the stance that Cyprus takes at Brussels could be a diplomatic windfall when the mood in Europe is increasingly empathizing with the Palestinian case for statehood.

Turkey, on the other hand, has taken a firm stand supportive of the Palestine cause. Indeed, the first fracture appeared in the architecture of Turkey-Israel ties when Erdogan snubbed Peres in front of television cameras at the Davos forum some two years ago during a debate on the Palestine problem.

In sum, Israel has every reason politically to throw its weight behind Cyprus in its tiff with Turkey - even if energy security is not compelling enough. The red carpet Tel Aviv rolled out for the Cypriot foreign minister can be seen as Israel's riposte to Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu's warning recently that Ankara would show the "necessary response" if Cyprus went ahead with exploration work.

Kozakou-Marcoullis was simply delighted. She told the Jerusalem Post on Wednesday that Cyprus planned exploratory work within the next two weeks: "We have international law on our side. I think Turkey has to listen to the messages being sent by the international community regarding this issue."

She was referring in particular to statements issued by Washington and Moscow in recent days supportive of Cyprus' right to do the drilling in the eastern Mediterranean. After returning to Nicosia on Thursday, Kozakou-Marcoullis stressed, "On the part of Israel, there is complete understanding about Cyprus' positions."

Noble Energy executives met Cypriot Trade Minister Praxoula Antoniadou in Nicosia on Thursday after which the minister said that drilling was indeed starting as scheduled and that "it is indisputable that Cyprus has every right to proceed and take every step needed for exploiting any natural wealth it possesses". Nicosia's confidence rests on the knowledge that it enjoys the backing of the US, Greece and Israel.

Foreign devils in Kurdish mountains
Meanwhile, Israeli commentators have also begun rattling Turkey's nerves, already somewhat frayed, over the furious return of Kurdish militancy. Israeli intelligence and businessmen have longstanding contacts with the Kurdish Peshmerga in northern Iraq.

Interestingly, Iran has highlighted lately that Israel could be stirring up the Kurdish pot for Turkey and, therefore, Tehran, Ankara and Damascus would have shared interests in countering the Kurdish separatism that threatened all three countries. Leading Israeli defense specialist David Eshel commented in August about the upsurge of Kurdish insurgency in Turkey's eastern provinces:

The entire Kurdish people could take advantage of the ongoing Arab Spring and prepare the ground for a long-anticipated Kurdistan, linking up with Iraq's ongoing autonomy, the Iranian Kurdish enclave and perhaps even the Syrian Kurdish minorities ... With the Arab world in total turmoil, lacking any orderly leadership, the Kurds could finally achieve their sacred goal for independence, after decades, if not centuries of desecration and oppression ... the ongoing "Arab Spring" could eventually shift into a "Kurdish Summer".

With the dilemma in Ankara growing steadily, the future of Turkey's Kurdish minority is inevitably shifting into national focus. The long unfulfilled quest of the Kurds for independent statehood is not emerging as a major barrier in ... Ankara's relations with the US ... Turkey cannot afford an independent Kurdistan; it would be losing some of its highly strategic and economic assets. In fact, without Kurdish eastern Turkey, the entire nation would break apart.

The most devastating part of Eshel's commentary is his analysis that with the acute ongoing confrontation between the civilian government of Erdogan and the Turkish military, the latter's professionalism and intelligence-gathering capabilities have suffered a severe setback and the Turkish General Staff realizes that any military action in the Kurdish regions would be a "high-risk operation".

Eshel anticipated with an ominous overtone that a criticality might be reached soon if Turkish Kurds merged with the seasoned Iraqi Peshmerga militia numbering more than 100,000 fighters. He warned, "Erdogan is facing his yet most difficult challenge." Given Israel's close links with the Kurdish Peshmerga going back decades, Israel could be signaling to Ankara at various levels that it has the means to hit back at Erdogan.

Israeli interests fundamentally lie in creating rifts in Turkey's relations with Iran and its "diplomacy" toward Ankara is constantly working in this direction. The paradox, however, is that Israel knows that neither Ankara nor Tehran can afford any serious drift to develop in their relationship at this juncture in regional politics. But the Israelis are adept at turning paradoxes to their advantage.

The Kurdish problem exposes fault lines that cut across Sunni-Shi'ite tensions in the region. Ankara, Tehran, Baghdad and Damascus have a convergence of interests regarding Kurdish separatism despite being on different sides of the Sunni-Shi'ite divide.

Israel estimates, however, that the Kurdish problem makes Ankara vulnerable to American and European pressure tactic and an exacerbation of this could politically weaken Erdogan and bring him to his knees. Such an estimation may appear fanciful. But the fact remains that on Thursday, in a Kurdish ambush, 15 Turkish soldiers were injured, two of them critically, and since July over 40 Turkish soldiers have been killed by Kurdish insurgents.

Turkish public opinion is becoming concerned about national security and the government's handling of the Kurdish problem. At a delicate time in Turkish politics when Erdogan is navigating himself with gusto to assume office as the head of state in a new French-style presidential system of government, he cannot afford to be seen as ineffectual in meeting the Kurdish challenge.

He has opted for a firm military response. But in Eshel's estimation, the weakened Turkish military will meet more than a match in the Kurdish mountains and the assertive Turkish leadership may well find itself in a quagmire.

Ambassador M K Bhadrakumar was a career diplomat in the Indian Foreign Service. His assignments included the Soviet Union, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Germany, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Kuwait and Turkey.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MH27Ak05.html
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Re: Israel turns tables on Turkey

Postby Nikitas » Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:15 am

"the weakened Turkish military "

What an interesting phrase! Suddenly the "best in NATO" are considered no match for irregular guerrilas.
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Re: Israel turns tables on Turkey

Postby Piratis » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:03 pm

Turkey has been using the Turkish minority on the island to impose her terms on Cyprus for decades. The Kurdish minority is a great way to give to Turkey some of their own poison.

The Kurds are the biggest nation without their own country. And unlike the Turkish minority in Cyprus, which was basically created by importing Turkish settlers and muslimizing christian Cypriots during Ottoman rule, the Kurds inhabited Kurdistan long before the Turks came from the east and invaded their lands. The Kurds truly deserve their own independent nation and we should fully support them.
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Re: Israel turns tables on Turkey

Postby Cap » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:28 pm

25 million Kurds...... 25 000000
150k T**kophone Cypriots ... (one hundred and fifty thousand), 150 000. Excluding the imported terrorists.

Piratis has a point.
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Re: Israel turns tables on Turkey

Postby Nikitas » Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:31 am

Turkey is a vastly overrated case. Its industrial rise is based mostly on foreign owned companies using imported tooling. Its military have never actually been tested yet by some sleight of hand claim the title of "best in NATO", but the cap of it all is Davut's theory of strategic depth and establishing influence in former Ottoman Empire areas. The promulgation of this neo ottomanist theory proves that the man is a world class clown.

The people in these places, from Egypt to Romania and from Austria to Crete, fought and shed blood to be rid of the Ottomans. What on earth would make Bulgarians, who are full members of the EU, suddenly want to exist under Turkey's influence? What advantage is there for them to be closer to Turkey? This is not explaine by the neo ottoman theory, it is supposed to be self explanatory. Which tends to confirm the clown status of the guy and his theory.
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Re: Israel turns tables on Turkey

Postby humanist » Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:05 pm

piratis
The Kurds are the biggest nation without their own country. And unlike the Turkish minority in Cyprus, which was basically created by importing Turkish settlers and muslimizing christian Cypriots during Ottoman rule, the Kurds inhabited Kurdistan long before the Turks came from the east and invaded their lands. The Kurds truly deserve their own independent nation and we should fully support them.


unfortunately the world ain't just piratis. hence the cyprus issue.
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Re: Israel turns tables on Turkey

Postby Lit » Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:47 pm

Israeli President Shimon Peres Urged Turkey To Respect International Law
November 4, 2011 |

President of Israel Shimon Peres urged Turkey to respect international law, saying that “the world is not being run by military threats, it is based on international law”.

Peres was speaking in Nicosia at the Presidential Palace at a joint press conference with President of Cyprus Demetris Christofias, after official talks in the framework of the official visit he pays to Cyprus.

To a question regarding explorations for natural gas and the Turkish presence in the area, and cooperation between Cyprus and Israel, Peres said “the world is not being run by military threats,“ adding that “we are based on international law.“

Peres pointed out that Turkey should also respect international law and that “this is the basis of political relations.“

“We are not going to threaten anybody and we are not going to be afraid of threats,“ he added.

Peres also noted the importance of maintaining friendly relationships with other countries.

Replying to the same question, President Christofias said he agreed with his Israeli counterpart, noting that “I welcome the message of peace and friendship of President Peres to Turkey and I would like to send the same message too”.

“I would also like to stress (to Turkey) that relations are based on international law and that each country`s actions must respect international law and order”.

He added that Turkey’s actions in the Eastern Mediterranean against Cyprus’ sovereign right to explore and exploit any hydrocarbon reserves it finds in its Exclusive Economic Zone, “are condemned in international fora”.

President Christofias recalled that he condemned Turkey’s behavior at the UN General Assembly in September, adding that Cyprus has made representations to the UNSC and the EU, while the issue will be discussed at the December European Council.

“Turkey must respect international law, not only as regards the hydrocarbon reserves, but as regards the Cyprus issue as well”, he pointed out.

Referring to Cyprus and Israel cooperation, he recalled that there is a defence cooperation agreement, noting that this does not mean that this is an agreement for a joint action to attack anyone or for combating an aggression.

“We do not have such agreements. Our effort is to work for peace in our region”, President Christofias noted.

Hydrocarbons, he said, “are nature’s gift to us and will be exploited by the two countries through a close cooperation to the benefit of both peoples and peace in the region”.

Meanwhile, to a question regarding Iran, Peres said “Iran is a danger for the rest of the world“ due to, inter alia, its nuclear development with political aims, the threats against the existence of other states, and the fact that it is a centre of terror.

Concluding, the President of Israel said that the world has to stop Iran from becoming more and more dangerous.

NATURAL GAS
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Israeli President pointed out on Thursday that the natural gas reserves would be used for the right reasons, in the context of international law, adding that the discoveries of Cyprus and Israel are for their people.

Peres said “we do not want to make an alliance based on military strengths but a cooperation based on goodwill,“ adding that “we have to show the rest world how small countries can be great people.“

He noted that “we both recognised that the distance between Israel and Cyprus is so short, so why not make the short geographic distance a closeness of political relations,“ adding that he believed “that is happening.“

Referring to the agreements, Peres said that an agreement between the antiquities departments was signed because both Cyprus and Israel are “old nations“, while the energy agreement was signed because “you discovered something new and we discovered something new.“

“Cyprus is not a very large island and Israel is not a large land but in your small island and our small land, great events, spiritually and socially, took place,“ he said, adding that “Cyprus, out of all the islands in the Middle East, is the first to become a full member of the EU and your are going to serve as president of the EU next year“ which is “not bad for a small country.“

Peres noted that “Israel is an associated member of the EU.“

Referring to the region, Peres said he believed Cyprus “can play a role in the peace process, not by mediating but by really offering the opportunities that exist in the united Europe.“

Peres said the countries of the Middle East would like to join the global market and that the EU could provide opportunities, adding that Israel was very advanced in science and agriculture.

“The Middle East is facing a terrible challenge of poverty. There is no water and no food. We cannot enlarge the land and we cannot enrich the rivers but what we can do is to take the technology that makes better use of the land we have and better use of the water we have,“ he said.

He added that “by having a Mediterranean-European operation we can produce technology and science that would be helpful.“

Peres noted that “the Middle East today is full of fire and death, from Syria to Yemen,“ adding that he would like to see a change.

“I think it is a good occasion that Cyprus is becoming president of the EU and instead of the Europeans coming to us with proposals it is not bad for our two small countries to come with our own proposals,“ he said.

Referring to the issue of natural gas, Peres said “we are going to use the gas the way peaceful and democratic people should use it,“ adding that “we are not going to waste it, we are not going to play with it, we are not going to use it for the wrong purposes.“

“We shall cooperate according to international law,“ he said, adding that “we intend to follow the law“.

He pointed out that “our discoveries are not against anyone, our discoveries are for the people.“

Peres said “we look upon gas, not as a power, but as an occasion to better the life of the people,“ adding that “we shall do it peacefully.“

“I think when it comes to Israel and Cyprus, where we can really cooperate is in the domain of agriculture, the domain of health and the domain of energy.“

Peres said “we do not want to make an alliance based on military strengths but a cooperation based on goodwill.“

He added that “we have to show the rest world how small countries can be great people.“CNA

http://your-story.org/israeli-president ... aw-282727/
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Re: Israel turns tables on Turkey

Postby kimon07 » Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:22 pm

Piratis wrote: The Kurds truly deserve their own independent nation and we should fully support them.


And until that time comes, the international community should at least offer to the Kurds of Turkey a status same as the one the Annan Plan was granting to the TCs.
Can you imagine a rotating presidency in Turkey and veto rights for the Kurds on foreign policy matters?
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