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"Yeni Duzen" article about a genetics research.

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Postby ELLAS H TEFRA! » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:47 am

Alexios wrote:
ELLAS H TEFRA! wrote:The fact that it was performed by a Turk is actually a negative aspect. Reason being that they want to project the image that we are similar, and that despite our similarities we as GreekCypriots look down on our T/C brethren..


Please think before you write..about anything...You are insulting the intelligence of the readers and ridiculing the G/Cs in exactly the same manner that T/C nationalists ridicule the T/C people with similar nonsense to yours.
I apologise to the readers who have the patience to answer to certain posts in a polite manner trying to prove the obvious.I have simply run out of patience...

Listen, we both know exaclty what your problem is, but I am still waiting for some concrete arguments, that are not based on first impression assumptions deriving from a Greek flag and a user name.

First you tryed, and failed misserably, to turn the discussion from "do we look alike to "whether or not it matters if we dont look alike". Which is something I never said in the first place.

And secondly, you are taking the "lets focus on trying to make the GreekCypriot respond in such a way that it will eventually prove my assumptions" route, again with no apparent result, and whilst doing so you are in a way defending the Turkish government which is probably the fourth most efficient propaganda "machine", after the Nazis, the Soviets, and the Americans, in recent history!

What exactly do you hope to achieve!? (other than amuse me) :?


PS: the word "ridicule" has little effect in terms of achieving the point you were trying to make and it was missused. I believe the word you were looking for was : patronizing!
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Postby cypezokyli » Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:29 pm

could you post a foto of you, so we know if who meets the criteria or not?


could you post a counter - research to the one mentioned so as to make your agruments a little bit scientific?
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Postby ELLAS H TEFRA! » Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:01 pm

cypezokyli wrote:could you post a foto of you, so we know if who meets the criteria or not?


could you post a counter - research to the one mentioned so as to make your agruments a little bit scientific?

Could you post a photo??

To claim that when a piece of research is not countered (yet) means it is also absolute is a superficial statement!
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Postby cypezokyli » Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:44 pm

i have not claim to knwo how the aryan greek should look like.
it is you who said (if i am not mistaken)
I have seen about 100 Turks that reside in Cyprus, and I havent seen anyone who resembles me!


with that i guess u implicitly assume that u meet the criteria of the absolute greek. and since you seem to know them i kindly ask you to share this knowledge with the rest of the world. (unless ofcource it is highly confidential info and we shouldnt let the enemy know )

To claim that when a piece of research is not countered (yet) means it is also absolute is a superficial statement!


i didnt claim that the research is correct.
i didnt claim that the research was wrong either
i didnt claim that when a research is not counterer it means is absolute

if my eyes dont deceive me i wrote

could you post a counter - research to the one mentioned so as to make your agruments a little bit scientific?

so once again
there is this research (right or wrong)
you are the only one claiming that is wrong.
your only argument is
I have seen about 100 Turks that reside in Cyprus, and I havent seen anyone who resembles me

do you consider that a scientific argument?

or is it the fact that it was done by a turk a counter argument that could stand in any scientific community?

facts my friend.
facts
you either have them or not
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Postby cypezokyli » Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:46 pm

i wanted to tell you also that your contribution to the forum is really important because you appear a very good reason for gc and tc to agree from time to time.
keep on the good work
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Postby ELLAS H TEFRA! » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:00 pm

cypezokyli wrote:i have not claim to knwo how the aryan greek should look like.
it is you who said (if i am not mistaken)
I have seen about 100 Turks that reside in Cyprus, and I havent seen anyone who resembles me!


with that i guess u implicitly assume that u meet the criteria of the absolute greek. and since you seem to know them i kindly ask you to share this knowledge with the rest of the world. (unless ofcource it is highly confidential info and we shouldnt let the enemy know )

To claim that when a piece of research is not countered (yet) means it is also absolute is a superficial statement!


i didnt claim that the research is correct.
i didnt claim that the research was wrong either
i didnt claim that when a research is not counterer it means is absolute

if my eyes dont deceive me i wrote

could you post a counter - research to the one mentioned so as to make your agruments a little bit scientific?

so once again
there is this research (right or wrong)
you are the only one claiming that is wrong.
your only argument is
I have seen about 100 Turks that reside in Cyprus, and I havent seen anyone who resembles me

do you consider that a scientific argument?

or is it the fact that it was done by a turk a counter argument that could stand in any scientific community?

facts my friend.
facts
you either have them or not


ELLAS H TEFRA! wrote:I strongly disagree with the view that we look alike. We do have some similarities, but that is due to the fact that we are sharing the same weather for generations.

Other than that our basic features are not the same, and in most instances they are no where near as the same!

Additionaly, it is of vital importance that thousands of T/C's have "mixed" their bloodlines significantly with Turkish settlers from the mainland, and please dont tell me that we also look like them.


This was my first post within the topic. I made no reference to the DNA research, nor had I read the first couple of pages. I only commented on the notion that WE LOOK ALIKE which is what was being discussed at the time on that page.

Alexios wrote: You sound just like a Turkish Grey wolf...
Even if all this nonsense you write was the truth what difference does it make?? sorry i forgot, you are probably of arian race and anyone who deasnt look like you must necessarily be inferior....


I never even mentioned an Aryan race, to the contrary it was someone else alltogether.
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Postby ELLAS H TEFRA! » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:02 pm

cypezokyli wrote:i wanted to tell you also that your contribution to the forum is really important because you appear a very good reason for gc and tc to agree from time to time.
keep on the good work

No need to be sarcastic! Unless you dont know any better.

PS: Alexios is not a GreekCypriot, he is just Cypriot!
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Postby cypezokyli » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:51 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Piratis » Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:24 pm

PS: Alexios is not a GreekCypriot, he is just Cypriot!


ELLAS H TEFRA!, would you prefer one Cyprus were we are all just Cypriots, or partition were Greek Cypriots are on one side and Turkish Cypriots on the other?

If we were all just Cypriots (or at least Cypriots first and above everything else) then our country would have been unified without any kind of problems.

Can't you see that your arguments are serving only those that want to partition our country?
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Postby ELLAS H TEFRA! » Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:31 pm

Piratis wrote:
PS: Alexios is not a GreekCypriot, he is just Cypriot!


ELLAS H TEFRA!, would you prefer one Cyprus were we are all just Cypriots, or partition were Greek Cypriots are on one side and Turkish Cypriots on the other?

If we were all just Cypriots (or at least Cypriots first and above everything else) then our country would have been unified without any kind of problems.

Can't you see that your arguments are serving only those that want to partition our country?

I would like to partition the Island yes!
Never said otherwise.

And if MY arguments serve those who want to partition it, then we have a big problem since a significant percentage of the right wing supporters does favour partitioning the island!
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