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"Yeni Duzen" article about a genetics research.

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Postby Kifeas » Mon Sep 05, 2005 12:10 pm

Alexios wrote:I repeat.Even if i accept that we dont look alike.What difference does it make ???? Unless you are arguing purely from an anthropological point of view..which reading through your posts doesnt seem to be the case...


Alexios, just ignore this kid! Even by the choice of nickname that he made, one can easily understand his /her mind frame.
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Postby ManoWAR » Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:36 pm

Kifeas wrote:The GC thesis has always been that the majority of TCs are from the same stock of Cypriot people that pre-existed the Ottoman Empire and which has adopted the Moslem faith, mainly to avoid the heavy taxations that were imposed on the Christian population by the Ottomans. It is no wonder that entire villages, especially in the Pafos area and not only, used to speak only Greek even up to 1974 and simultaneously very few if none of them knew Turkish, even though the time the Ottomans left Cyprus is not too far back in time. What do you think about these GC claims?


This is not the GC thesis. This is the historical truth!
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Postby ELLAS H TEFRA! » Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:55 pm

Alexios wrote:I repeat.Even if i accept that we dont look alike.What difference does it make ???? Unless you are arguing purely from an anthropological point of view..which reading through your posts doesnt seem to be the case...

Again, pure assumptions! If I wanted to insult or provoke someone I would have done so openly.

The only reason you keep replying to my posts is because you have created an image of me through the avatar I have chosen and my username!

Even so, you are the one who seems to be completely offtopic here since no one has argued that there is, or should be a difference, if we dont look alike,

BUT WE ARE JUST DISCUSSING VIEWS ON WHETHER WE LOOK ALIKE OR NOT!
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Postby ELLAS H TEFRA! » Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:57 pm

Kifeas wrote:
Alexios wrote:I repeat.Even if i accept that we dont look alike.What difference does it make ???? Unless you are arguing purely from an anthropological point of view..which reading through your posts doesnt seem to be the case...


Alexios, just ignore this kid! Even by the choice of nickname that he made, one can easily understand his /her mind frame.

How predictable you people are..you both rushed to judge me from my avatar, but have failed to even read, or read and understand, my views!

Well, I apologise for being Greek, I thought Greek people would be welcomed in this forum!
How mistaken was I...
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Postby Piratis » Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:14 pm

I strongly disagree with the view that we look alike. We do have some similarities, but that is due to the fact that we are sharing the same weather for generations.

Other than that our basic features are not the same, and in most instances they are no where near as the same!


Perhaps you are one of the many Cypriots who look like they are from Syria or Iraq, but keep in mind that we dont all look the same and that some of us do fit perfectly with the stereotype and the characteristics that defined the infamous Aryan Race. Dont blame me if you look like an Arab.


ELLAS H TEFRA!, the majority of GCs look very similar to the majority of TCs. Now if you think that you belong to the Aryan Race or whatever, thats your choice. There are many TCs (and even Turks) that would perfectly fit with such a stereotype as well.

What I don't understand is what exactly is your problem. Here we have a scientific research that shows that that the DNA of TCs and GCs is very close. Do you have anything solid to support the opposide?
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Postby ELLAS H TEFRA! » Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:32 pm

Piratis wrote:
I strongly disagree with the view that we look alike. We do have some similarities, but that is due to the fact that we are sharing the same weather for generations.

Other than that our basic features are not the same, and in most instances they are no where near as the same!


Perhaps you are one of the many Cypriots who look like they are from Syria or Iraq, but keep in mind that we dont all look the same and that some of us do fit perfectly with the stereotype and the characteristics that defined the infamous Aryan Race. Dont blame me if you look like an Arab.


ELLAS H TEFRA!, the majority of GCs look very similar to the majority of TCs. Now if you think that you belong to the Aryan Race or whatever, thats your choice. There are many TCs (and even Turks) that would perfectly fit with such a stereotype as well.

What I don't understand is what exactly is your problem. Here we have a scientific research that shows that that the DNA of TCs and GCs is very close. Do you have anything solid to support the opposide?

I have seen about 100 Turks that reside in Cyprus, and I havent seen anyone who resembles me!

Maybe I need to see a lot more, but for the moment this is what I think.
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Postby ELLAS H TEFRA! » Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:37 pm

By the way, the research was done by a Turk, and for one piece of research to be regarded as SOLID you need at least 5 more opinions from other geneticists.

Accordingly, the solidity of my view should not come in question by research that has not yet being agreed upon by the entirety of the scientific community, vis a vis the director of the Genetics centre in Nicosia Dr Middleton.
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Postby Piratis » Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:52 pm

I have seen about 100 Turks that reside in Cyprus, and I havent seen anyone who resembles me!


Turks or TCs?

Maybe you do not look like the "average GC"? Also don't forget that the way somebody looks can be affected by many things, not just genetics. (the way they dress etc)

Can you honestly say that if we took 10 random GCs and 10 random TCs, "styled" them in the same way and placed everybody in the same room (and nobody was talking) that you would be able to guess who are the 10 TCs and who are the 10 GCs?

By the way, the research was done by a Turk, and for one piece of research to be regarded as SOLID you need at least 5 more opinions from other geneticists.

If it was done by a Turk this actually makes it more reliable since the official policy of Turkey is that in Cyprus there are two separate "peoples" and the result of such survey was obviously not helpful for their cause (partition). This is why Denktash said to this scientist to "shut up".
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Postby ELLAS H TEFRA! » Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:22 am

The fact that it was performed by a Turk is actually a negative aspect. Reason being that they want to project the image that we are similar, and that despite our similarities we as GreekCypriots look down on our T/C brethren..
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Postby Alexios » Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:07 am

ELLAS H TEFRA! wrote:The fact that it was performed by a Turk is actually a negative aspect. Reason being that they want to project the image that we are similar, and that despite our similarities we as GreekCypriots look down on our T/C brethren..


Please think before you write..about anything...You are insulting the intelligence of the readers and ridiculing the G/Cs in exactly the same manner that T/C nationalists ridicule the T/C people with similar nonsense to yours.
I apologise to the readers who have the patience to answer to certain posts in a polite manner trying to prove the obvious.I have simply run out of patience...
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