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[Me Ed]

An interesting view and not without some credible points.

"No, what I am saying is that after '74, the RoC had to build power stations and airports as well as house displaced GCs and yes this could only practically be done to some extent on TC owned land."

I agree with you that, under the circumstances, this "had" to be done. However, we shouldn't get away from the fact that this land belonged to someone who should have been advised of a compulsory purchase and awarded compensation AT THAT TIME. The fact that this was all part of a wider situation means nothing to Mr. Atakan, and is not relevant to him.

Agreed, and if Mr Atakan visited his land and found a waterpark on his land he should be compensated immediately.

However, if you look at the "bigger picture", and every displaced GC decided to follow Mr Atakans example, it would probably bankrupt both Turkey and the "trnc".

[halil]

what Erdoğan says on the daily Kibris.............17 dönüm arazide evlerinin ve bağlarının bulunduğunu, denize sıfır olan arazide yaşamlarını sürdürdüklerini anlatan Atakan, 1974 yılında yaşanan olayların ardından kuzeye geçerek, Paşaköy’e yerleştiklerini söyledi.
Yıllarca köyünün ve evinin özlemini duyduğunu belirten Atakan, sınır kapılarının açılmasının ardından köyünü ziyarete gittiğinde şok yaşadığını kaydetti.
Atakan, “Dönümlerce üzüm bağı ve evimiz yok olmuştu. Tam bir şok yaşadım. Evin ve bağların olduğu yerde kocaman bir elektrik santrali inşa edilmişti”
http://www.kibrisgazetesi.com/



he had a land zero to sea level in the Mari (Tatlısu) village. Land was 17 donum and in his land he did have his own house and wineyards.....they were razed off and powerstation build in it. without his will and knowlage and without his permission his land was expropriated.....he never get any componsation or money ....he tried everything with GC adminstration to solve the problem but he did not get any positive response from them.... even he had a solicitor from south ...... he says now he applied to ECHR to solve this problem because GC adminstration didn't show any will .....

[B25]

@Gardash,

when your illegal regime gives back the 20%+ of the land they stole, use, abuse, sell or othersise, we will consider mr E compensation. Until then you and he and any other MF and go whistle.

Cheers

[Pyrpolizer]

Halil you have to understand that when your land gets expropriated, all the information is published in the Government gazette and that's all the law says.Denktash was holding a record for all expropriated lands in the RoC so since he had you locked in his prison he should have informed Mr Erdogan. No government asks for permission to expropriate land for public use. The only thing ANYONE can do after this decision is taken, is to disagree on the amount of compensation. There is a time limit for filing objections.
Erdogan is certainly entitled for compensation, and that's all. I wouldn't advice him to pend a fortune going to the ECHR before learning what was the value of his land at the time it got expropriated.

NB. I notice you get very exited for the few cases where the Kibrislis discover they lost their land unfairly. I don't see you getting 1000 times more times excited when 1000 times more Kypreoi discover the very same thing and even worse-their lands stolen and given to INDIVIDUALS not for public use

[Kikapu]

Halil you have to understand that when your land gets expropriated, all the information is published in the Government gazette and that's all the law says.Denktash was holding a record for all expropriated lands in the RoC so since he had you locked in his prison he should have informed Mr Erdogan. No government asks for permission to expropriate land for public use. The only thing ANYONE can do after this decision is taken, is to disagree on the amount of compensation. There is a time limit for filing objections.
Erdogan is certainly entitled for compensation, and that's all. I wouldn't advice him to pend a fortune going to the ECHR before learning what was the value of his land at the time it got expropriated.

NB. I notice you get very exited for the few cases where the Kibrislis discover they lost their land unfairly. I don't see you getting 1000 times more times excited when 1000 times more Kypreoi discover the very same thing and even worse-their lands stolen and given to INDIVIDUALS not for public use

That's because Halil is one of those who supported the Annan plan, which according to Halil, he said, "the AP was going to give him and his family everything he ask for and that he was going to be his own Efendi". If the AP was going to give Halil everything he asked for in the AP, it meant that the GCs were not going to get anything that they had asked for to be in the AP!

[halil]

what ever it is ECHR will decide ............

Atakan says the power plant was built upon its soil as a deliberate, there was also GC's lands suitable at same place.....In the same area there was 52 more Turkish Cypriots lands also expropriated and fenced with the wires.

[Pyrpolizer]

17 donums of land hardly ever make a power station.
In fact here's a photo of the place the power station measures 400X1000m that's 400 donums.

The area there is highly industrialized and highly polluted too because of the cement factory.
And this did not happen after 1974, the cement factory was there from the 60s creating a cloud of dust covering all the area upto the main road. I doubt Erdogan was actually producing anything there, the whole place WAS A DESERT, not plants could survive.
In 1974 and many years after land there was not even sellable. Even building a house there you run the risk of dying from pneumoconiasis.
Today of course the situation is much better after the cement factory was forced by the EU rules to put filters on its chimneys...

[Pyrpolizer]

To make a long story short his 17 donums in 1974 might worth some 5-10 pounds per donum, in the early 2000 about 1-2000 per donum at best.
The man thinks he is going to get rich by going to ECHR but somehow I believe he is just going to be ripped by lawyers... His land never worth anything.. the Cement factory had simply destroyed ALL lands in the area from the 60s...