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Cyprus end game?

Postby Jerry » Mon Aug 22, 2011 1:54 pm

Robert Ellis gives an accurate (?) appraisal of the current state of negotiations in Cyprus.
http://www.neurope.eu/articles/Cyprus-e ... 108016.php

I'm of the opinion that the talks will once again fail, the UN will withdraw its "good offices" and Cyprus will be put on hold for several years until/unless large quantities of gas are discovered. Turkey will then be put under pressure from Europe to solve the Cyprus Problem ('cos it wants fossil fuels).

More doom and gloom for Turkey in today's Zaman. PKK threaten to target civilians and tourists, if its tourist industry collapses Turkey may not be able to afford to prop up the "trnc". http://www.todayszaman.com/news-254416- ... -says.html

Looks like Turkey is on a downward slope, perhaps it's time for that country to change its ways.
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Re: Cyprus end game?

Postby gardash » Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:28 pm

"Turkey will then be put under pressure from Europe to solve the Cyprus Problem ('cos it wants fossil fuels)."

How does that follow?
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Re: Cyprus end game?

Postby Jerry » Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:42 pm

gardash wrote:"Turkey will then be put under pressure from Europe to solve the Cyprus Problem ('cos it wants fossil fuels)."

How does that follow?


Oh dear! couldn't you figure that one out?
The ROC will expect Europe/the EU to "persuade" Turkey to give up its colonisation in return for a reliable source of fossil fuels. Recent events have shown the lengths the West will go to in order secure oil supplies, if significant reserves are found off Cyprus Turkey can kiss the "trnc" goodbye. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Cyprus end game?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:56 pm

Jerry wrote:Robert Ellis gives an accurate (?) appraisal of the current state of negotiations in Cyprus.
http://www.neurope.eu/articles/Cyprus-e ... 108016.php

I'm of the opinion that the talks will once again fail, the UN will withdraw its "good offices" and Cyprus will be put on hold for several years until/unless large quantities of gas are discovered. Turkey will then be put under pressure from Europe to solve the Cyprus Problem ('cos it wants fossil fuels).

More doom and gloom for Turkey in today's Zaman. PKK threaten to target civilians and tourists, if its tourist industry collapses Turkey may not be able to afford to prop up the "trnc". http://www.todayszaman.com/news-254416- ... -says.html

Looks like Turkey is on a downward slope, perhaps it's time for that country to change its ways.


This author Ellis jumps into arbitrary conclusions.
Look at this for example:

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the basis for a settlement would be a bi-zonal and bicommunal federal state. Accordingly, the two constituent states would have the majority of the property and population in their own territory, although 70% of the properties in the north prior to 1974 were Greek Cypriot owned.


This is what the Anan Plan tried to do and it was rejected. BBF has nothing to do with ownership of properties.In fact we will never accept any committees or illegal users to confiscate our properties or have first say on them. Property ownership will remain as it was before. The proportions will change later on -after the establishment of a BBF- through voluntary exchange/sale schemes, but i doubt they will ever be as the author imagines or as the Anan Plan tried to make them.

Of course it all depends on the size of the TC component state. It could be possible at near 18%, but at 25% or more it will not be possible.
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Re: Cyprus end game?

Postby Jerry » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:24 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:This author Ellis jumps into arbitrary conclusions.



That may be so but he does have quite a good insight into who is really to blame for the Cyprus impasse.

This is why reunification talks are getting nowhere, however hard Dimitris Christofias, the Greek Cypriot president, tries. The new Turkish Cypriot leader, Dervis Eroglu, unlike the former leader, Mehmet Ali Talat, is simply not interested that they should go anywhere, and takes his orders directly from Ankara. As Martin Kettle writes about the prospect of Turkey's EU membership: "the failure is predictable, disgraceful and incredibly shortsighted". And it's Turkey's fault.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... NTCMP=SRCH
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Re: Cyprus end game?

Postby Kikapu » Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:03 pm

Cyprus's end game = Turkey's start game for EU membership, unless of course, "Kurdish Spring" takes effect in Turkey before than or Turkey pisses off the USA big time over their harassment of American companies at the RoC's EEZ Oil and Gas fields. :wink:
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