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Turkey needs to accept responsibility for its crimes

Postby Greekmaniac » Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:20 pm

Articles about the Asia Minor Holocaust of 1922

From the New York Times

By EDWIN I. JAMES.

Copyright, 1922 by The New York Times Company.
Special Cable to THE NEW YORK TIMES

LAUSANNE, Dec. 1.--A black page of modern history was written here today. Ismet Pasha stood before the statesmen of the civilized world and admitted that the banishment from Turkish territory of nearly a million Christian Greeks, who were two million only a few short years ago had been decreed. The Turkish Government graciously allows two more weeks for the great exodus.

The statesmen of the civilized powers accepted the Turkish dictum and set about ways to get those thousands of Greeks out of harm's way before they should meet the fate of 800,000 Armenians who were massacred in Anatolia in 1910 and 1917

Is Turkey capable of the truth?
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Postby Piratis » Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:41 pm

This is the "Cyprus Problem" forum. I don't think your post fits here ...
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Postby Greekmaniac » Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:46 pm

Piratis wrote:This is the "Cyprus Problem" forum. I don't think your post fits here ...


I thought Turkey was part of the Cyprus problem, that would mean its history , I think the problem stems from a lack of research on your part , so in conclusion if you cant answer the question or write some constructive answer then lay off.
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Postby Piratis » Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:12 pm

I thought Turkey was part of the Cyprus problem

Sure it is. Can you tell me though how discussing what happened in 1922 in Turkey will help for the solution of the Cyprus problem?
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Postby Greekmaniac » Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:18 pm

Piratis wrote:
I thought Turkey was part of the Cyprus problem

Sure it is. Can you tell me though how discussing what happened in 1922 in Turkey will help for the solution of the Cyprus problem?


First of all it didnt happen in Turkey it happened in Greek land occupied by Turkey , and if we do recognize and discuss past problems we will repeat them , and 50 - 100 years from know someone will be saying whats the use talking about what happened in 1974 , I personally try too learn from the past I think you should too it might suprise you.
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Postby Piratis » Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:32 pm

First we should learn not to do the same mistake twice.

At some point if we want peace we should hope that Turkey is capable for the truth. All countries are looking for their own interests. What we should try is to make Turkey understand that she can gain more by peace and respect towards Greece and Cyprus.

We should also understand that we can gain more if we have peace with Turkey, some people fail to see this.
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Postby Khan » Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:32 pm

Take your argument to http://www.stormfront.org/forum/

They will accomodate you there.
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Postby Greekmaniac » Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:47 pm

Khan wrote:Take your argument to http://www.stormfront.org/forum/

They will accomodate you there.

Thats the responce I expect from someone who wants to deny the truth and cant accept responsibility , I just hope you are not indicative of the general oppinion. Its easy too claim Im a fascist and Nationalist when your country has gained power and land through dispicable acts , give me a break , the truth being I dont expect a logical answer from you have a nice day.
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Postby Khan » Mon Aug 29, 2005 8:44 pm

How can i give a logical answer to someone who claims Turks "occupied" Greek lands. The very lands they held for 600 years and which Greece opportunistically invaded for some crazy Megali idea. The very same crazy idea which screwed Cyprus over. It looks like you should be the one learning from your mistakes.
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Postby Greekmaniac » Mon Aug 29, 2005 8:54 pm

Khan wrote:How can i give a logical answer to someone who claims Turks "occupied" Greek lands. The very lands they held for 600 years and which Greece opportunistically invaded for some crazy Megali idea. The very same crazy idea which screwed Cyprus over. It looks like you should be the one learning from your mistakes.


Your history books are a little screwed up , the lands they held meaning conquered from the Byzantine empire , you can go back 600 years and its okay , well then I can go back 601 years and say that it is Greek land , the Megali idea didnt look too conquer land that was not previously ours ,
and Cyprus was under the ottoman empire for 300 years and emerged with a majority of its people speaking the ancient Greek language and believing in the teachings of the greek orthodox church. Listen I dont expect you to understand , Turkey has denied the Armenian massacre , have shown the world that genocide is held in high regard. Reading your history books would be a confusing task for anyone its more like a fairytale than reality.
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