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[Pyrpolizer]

Nikitas,

I have been meaning to ask you this question for a long time, but didn't have the right opportunity, so here goes.

Now, you know a thing or two about ships, and if there are some unused commercial ships in Greece at the moment just sitting around collected dust, can they not be sent to Cyprus to anchor off the coast and run their massive generators to produce electricity to be linked to the electric grid system until a new power station is built.??

Kiks here's the truth behind it:
We have 3 power stations here not just one.Of course the biggest one was the one that was PARTIALLY damaged. The total capacity was more than 1000 MW with the engines running at normal load.At full load they could reach almost double. The maximum ever need was for 900 MW. These days we only needed about 600MW. In the beginning they were cutting the power for 2.5 hours/24hours. It's been 3 days they have not cut it at all. It was all a show off/a theater to get as much funds out of the EU as possible. Yes we had problems,yes the biggest power plant had a lot of damage...but playing a little theater and crying some tears always helps no?

We had no power cut, because much of the industry and offices are closed this week and the demand is not that great. Wait until after the holidays when everything kicks in and we will probably be back to the cutting.

Make a search here inputting dates 5-18 August.
http://www.dsm.org.cy/nqcontent.cfm?a_i ... &submit=Ok
You will find out that there was decreased demand ONLY in 13,14, and 15 August.
All other dates were about the same with maximum about 800MW, minimum 480.

[B25]

Nikitas,

I have been meaning to ask you this question for a long time, but didn't have the right opportunity, so here goes.

Now, you know a thing or two about ships, and if there are some unused commercial ships in Greece at the moment just sitting around collected dust, can they not be sent to Cyprus to anchor off the coast and run their massive generators to produce electricity to be linked to the electric grid system until a new power station is built.??

Kiks here's the truth behind it:
We have 3 power stations here not just one.Of course the biggest one was the one that was PARTIALLY damaged. The total capacity was more than 1000 MW with the engines running at normal load.At full load they could reach almost double. The maximum ever need was for 900 MW. These days we only needed about 600MW. In the beginning they were cutting the power for 2.5 hours/24hours. It's been 3 days they have not cut it at all. It was all a show off/a theater to get as much funds out of the EU as possible. Yes we had problems,yes the biggest power plant had a lot of damage...but playing a little theater and crying some tears always helps no?

We had no power cut, because much of the industry and offices are closed this week and the demand is not that great. Wait until after the holidays when everything kicks in and we will probably be back to the cutting.

Make a search here inputting dates 5-18 August.
http://www.dsm.org.cy/nqcontent.cfm?a_i ... &submit=Ok
You will find out that there was decreased demand ONLY in 13,14, and 15 August.
All other dates were about the same with maximum about 800MW, minimum 480.

In the early days, we didn't have the additional gensets so we couldn't produce the power needed.

The demand is still less now.

What are you trying to prove exactly??

[Kikapu]

Kikapu,

WHen sailing out of the port of Piraeus you pass the roads, for those not familiar with sailor talk this is the "parking space" for ships. The roads is full of idle ships. No one has asked the owners of these vessels for them to be used for anything.

One use would be power generation, as you point out. The other I have been thinking of for some years now, is in the form of mobile garbage treatment. This seems to be suitable in an island nation where the floating plant can go from island to island and carry out the recycling, treatment and composting or compaction of garbage.

Nikitas,

Your idea of the ships being used as a "Garbage Disposals" is a very sound idea. The other uses can be made by using their water desalinating systems to send fresh water ashore along with generated power. Many application can be made to the engines to drive other equipments through "direct drive" mechanically, like the "Garbage Disposal System" rather than electrically. It would use up fuel of course to run all these things, but for the short term, all these ships sitting in mothball can be put to use.

[Pyrpolizer]

Kikapu,

WHen sailing out of the port of Piraeus you pass the roads, for those not familiar with sailor talk this is the "parking space" for ships. The roads is full of idle ships. No one has asked the owners of these vessels for them to be used for anything.

One use would be power generation, as you point out. The other I have been thinking of for some years now, is in the form of mobile garbage treatment. This seems to be suitable in an island nation where the floating plant can go from island to island and carry out the recycling, treatment and composting or compaction of garbage.

Nikitas,

Your idea of the ships being used as a "Garbage Disposals" is a very sound idea. The other uses can be made by using their water desalinating systems to send fresh water ashore along with generated power. Many application can be made to the engines to drive other equipments through "direct drive" mechanically, like the "Garbage Disposal System" rather than electrically. It would use up fuel of course to run all these things, but for the short term, all these ships sitting in mothball can be put to use.

The question is at what cost?

[Pyrpolizer]

Nikitas,

I have been meaning to ask you this question for a long time, but didn't have the right opportunity, so here goes.

Now, you know a thing or two about ships, and if there are some unused commercial ships in Greece at the moment just sitting around collected dust, can they not be sent to Cyprus to anchor off the coast and run their massive generators to produce electricity to be linked to the electric grid system until a new power station is built.??

Kiks here's the truth behind it:
We have 3 power stations here not just one.Of course the biggest one was the one that was PARTIALLY damaged. The total capacity was more than 1000 MW with the engines running at normal load.At full load they could reach almost double. The maximum ever need was for 900 MW. These days we only needed about 600MW. In the beginning they were cutting the power for 2.5 hours/24hours. It's been 3 days they have not cut it at all. It was all a show off/a theater to get as much funds out of the EU as possible. Yes we had problems,yes the biggest power plant had a lot of damage...but playing a little theater and crying some tears always helps no?

We had no power cut, because much of the industry and offices are closed this week and the demand is not that great. Wait until after the holidays when everything kicks in and we will probably be back to the cutting.

Make a search here inputting dates 5-18 August.
http://www.dsm.org.cy/nqcontent.cfm?a_i ... &submit=Ok
You will find out that there was decreased demand ONLY in 13,14, and 15 August.
All other dates were about the same with maximum about 800MW, minimum 480.

In the early days, we didn't have the additional gensets so we couldn't produce the power needed.

The demand is still less now.

What are you trying to prove exactly??

Are you following the discussion or what? Look at my original post for your answers.

[gardash]

As an ex-seafarer, I can tell you that ships generators are really only big enough for themselves, in terms of illumination and the driving of electrical machinery/equipment such as capstans, windlasses, etc.

Now, if you could get a nuclear submarine to tie-up in Limassol harbour you could really generate some Watts.

[Pyrpolizer]

As an ex-seafarer, I can tell you that ships generators are really only big enough for themselves, in terms of illumination and the driving of electrical machinery/equipment such as capstans, windlasses, etc.

Now, if you could get a nuclear submarine to tie-up in Limassol harbour you could really generate some Watts.

16 of them and we are done!

[Pyrpolizer]

Nikitas,

What is the Engine horsepower of those ships that sit idle as you say? I know most cruise ships have engines of about 75,000 Horsepower=55MW, 16 of those and we are done
You know the EAC has issued Tenders for the supply of Electricity from ships.
If you have connections this might be a good opportunity, all is needed is just couple the ships Engine to a High Voltage alternator.

[gardash]

Nikitas,

What is the Engine horsepower of those ships that sit idle as you say? I know most cruise ships have engines of about 75,000 Horsepower=55MW, 16 of those and we are done
You know the EAC has issued Tenders for the supply of Electricity from ships.
If you have connections this might be a good opportunity, all is needed is just couple the ships Engine to a High Voltage alternator.

Sounds easy when you say it quickly.
You are talking major conversion work there.
A better option would be the production of gas-turbine/alternator generator units. These are road transportable and are very efficient. The turbine in a Lynx helicopter isn't much bigger than a waste-paper basket.

[EPSILON]

So what's Turkey going to do, invade an EU member State, in essence invading the same club she wants to join?

Lardi dadida ..........

Ertogan has a much better plan. He is going to invate Syria, Israel and , by mistake ,the Cyprus drill position. "SUPER POWER " like Turkey -in Ertogan and Davoutohlou minds- can do whatever it likes.
The next morning is always difficult, particularly after a "heavy" dream.!!!!