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This needs to be in the jokes section

[Hermes]

The Special Envoy of the President of Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC), Kudret Ozersay, said Wednesday that unless the Greek Cypriots suspended efforts to extract natural gas in southern Cyprus, the Turkish Cypriots would make agreements whereby it would extract oil and natural gas off its shores in northern Cyprus.

The "TRNC" prepares its drilling equipment...

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With the slogan "grandad also told us we would go back north!!!!"

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You were beaten to the humour.

So Turkeys response is to carry out its own exploration, we are shitting ourselves!!

[supporttheunderdog]

Nikitas,

I have been meaning to ask you this question for a long time, but didn't have the right opportunity, so here goes.

Now, you know a thing or two about ships, and if there are some unused commercial ships in Greece at the moment just sitting around collected dust, can they not be sent to Cyprus to anchor off the coast and run their massive generators to produce electricity to be linked to the electric grid system until a new power station is built.??

sorry Kiks but no joy with that one - If it were a good goer I am quite sure people I know would be queueing up to rent their ships to the EAC just for that reason. Yer average cargo ship does not have big generators but has two or three quite small ones with just about enough electrical generating power for its own uses and little spare to, for example, send ashore - Indeed as ships are now seen as dirty smelly things that pollute the air, in some places eg parts of USA they practice what is known as Cold Ironing where in port the ship takes electric from the shore, rather than uses its own generators.

[Pyrpolizer]

Nikitas,

I have been meaning to ask you this question for a long time, but didn't have the right opportunity, so here goes.

Now, you know a thing or two about ships, and if there are some unused commercial ships in Greece at the moment just sitting around collected dust, can they not be sent to Cyprus to anchor off the coast and run their massive generators to produce electricity to be linked to the electric grid system until a new power station is built.??

Kiks here's the truth behind it:
We have 3 power stations here not just one.Of course the biggest one was the one that was PARTIALLY damaged. The total capacity was more than 1000 MW with the engines running at normal load.At full load they could reach almost double. The maximum ever need was for 900 MW. These days we only needed about 600MW. In the beginning they were cutting the power for 2.5 hours/24hours. It's been 3 days they have not cut it at all. It was all a show off/a theater to get as much funds out of the EU as possible. Yes we had problems,yes the biggest power plant had a lot of damage...but playing a little theater and crying some tears always helps no?

[Pyrpolizer]

Anyway today Turkey showed her muscles.
She carried out a military exercise to invade and occupy an island.
What was the result? They threw the bomb near their generals, 15 reported injured so far

[Nikitas]

Kikapu,

WHen sailing out of the port of Piraeus you pass the roads, for those not familiar with sailor talk this is the "parking space" for ships. The roads is full of idle ships. No one has asked the owners of these vessels for them to be used for anything.

One use would be power generation, as you point out. The other I have been thinking of for some years now, is in the form of mobile garbage treatment. This seems to be suitable in an island nation where the floating plant can go from island to island and carry out the recycling, treatment and composting or compaction of garbage.

[B25]

Nikitas,

I have been meaning to ask you this question for a long time, but didn't have the right opportunity, so here goes.

Now, you know a thing or two about ships, and if there are some unused commercial ships in Greece at the moment just sitting around collected dust, can they not be sent to Cyprus to anchor off the coast and run their massive generators to produce electricity to be linked to the electric grid system until a new power station is built.??

Kiks here's the truth behind it:
We have 3 power stations here not just one.Of course the biggest one was the one that was PARTIALLY damaged. The total capacity was more than 1000 MW with the engines running at normal load.At full load they could reach almost double. The maximum ever need was for 900 MW. These days we only needed about 600MW. In the beginning they were cutting the power for 2.5 hours/24hours. It's been 3 days they have not cut it at all. It was all a show off/a theater to get as much funds out of the EU as possible. Yes we had problems,yes the biggest power plant had a lot of damage...but playing a little theater and crying some tears always helps no?

We had no power cut, because much of the industry and offices are closed this week and the demand is not that great. Wait until after the holidays when everything kicks in and we will probably be back to the cutting.

[Nikitas]

"Within the boundaries of reciprocity, the Turkish Cypriots will take steps that are similar to those of the Greek Cypriots, Ozersay said."

LOL!! This is not reciprocity in the legal sense. The man is obviusly not familiar either with legal concepts or basic English language use. Reciprocity is the return of favors, to put it as simply as possible.

But the implication is interesting. This gentleman seems to be inferring that oil and gas are known to exist in the north and so far there has been no attempt to exploit them out of deference to the GCs! Which leads to the inevitable question, why did they not do the very same thing with assets KNOWN to belong to GC individuals like the houses in Varosi, for instance. Or why were not the proceeds from mining and quarrying in the north, to keep the discussion to minerals, held in trust for the whole of the population of Cyprus.

It is too late to be attempting such nonsense ploys. It is fascinating to see how membership in the EU, and the prospect of major wealth, has thrown such a huge spanner in the works of Turkish policy in Cyprus. If it had been a realistic policy there would be no crisis. The fact that there is a crisis, an internal one, proves how anachronistic and antiquated Turkish policy is.

The long term prospect Turkey obviously dreads is that oil and gas will be found. The total Cypriot population will be able to survive in the free areas, the north will be seen by all for what it really is- an illegally occupied enclave populated by imported colonists.

Regardless of whether gas is found or not, the plans made by Cyprus and Israel call for a major transhipping port in Cyprus to handle Israeli as well as Cypriot oil and gas. The investment planned is about 10 billion. Strategically the project is very significant for the EU, being one of the few natural gas resources originating and controlled entirely within the EU. Anyone who thinks that such an advantage will be relinquished on Turkey's say so is dreaming.

It is no accident that Greek shipowners, who have over 600 new ships on order, are ordering more liquified natural gas ships than at any time in the past.