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[supporttheunderdog]

TRNC natural resources

start exploring... let us know if u find anything...

[Kikapu]

Who is shutting them out? you people seem to counting your chickens before they hatch, good luck to you if that chick one day does come flying out of the egg but until then you aint got nothing. The TCs will never submit because you have natural resources, if that was the case we would all be moving south to share your "super economy" you claim you have.

Why do you think Angela Merkel, your one time favourite German Politician/leader now wants to close down ALL Nuclear Power stations in Germany in the next 10 years or so. She has started closing several of them already. The reasons as to why she is closing the Nuclear power station are, it is because she will build MORE power stations that will run on Natural Gas, and since she has not agreed to buy more Gas from the Russians, she must know something, which may be, that she will get them from her fellow EU member, Cyprus. May also be the reasons as to why she was in Cyprus few months ago to close the deal, which she even bad mouthed Turkey for not allowing a solution for Cyprus, which pissed off Erdogan big time. Take all these as clues, that there is Gas/Oil down there. The ONLY question that remains to be answered is, just how much exactly !

Result zilch, it does not bring a solution, all political posturing nothing more next year and the one after that we will still be discussing the same things.

I thought we were talking about Oil and Gas, and not about a solution.

Solution will come when Turkey allows the TCs to have a settlement based on ALL relevant resolutions issued by the UN, and ALL the EU Principles. Anything short will not bring about a solution.

Annan Plan of 2004 was the perfect example as to why a solution cannot be reached under those terms and is ALL the proof you need to know.

[Kikapu]

We will still be talking about this next year and without any product to sell the "RoC" will face hard times like the rest of Europe although some still feel that the south is not facing any sort of crisis when we debated this some months ago.

As I've said, as soon as the Gas/Oil is confirmed in the next few months, all kinds of credit will be extended to Cyprus, if she should want it. When the actual products comes to the surface, is totally irrelevant. It has been in the ground for the last 65 million years, so it can wait for couple of years more.

Don't worry, you still have Turkey to pay for you, therefore in a way, you got your own "oil/gas wells" in Turkey.

They may however start running dry soon.

No chickens yet, but you can count them because thats all you are doing.

Close, but no cigar.

Actually it has nothing to do with chickens at all, but it has all to do with "one getting their ducks in order"!

[Kikapu]

Where did I ever claim that? only Kikapu claims that he is 100% right all the time.

I wouldn't give him 100%, but 99% yes.

[Hermes]

add to this Turkeys + TRNC natural resources exploration...

Do you intend to share these "resources" with the Republic of Cyprus? I only ask because Turkey seems very keen that we share our resources with the T/Cs?

[Nikitas]

The latest move has nothing to do with resources. It is one more instance where Turkey wants to reaffirm the principle that nothing worthwhile can happen in Cyprus without its say so.

Problem is that having pushed so hard to establish the principle of separation, now it cannot backtrack and claim things that are feasible only in a unitary state. Turkey is managing very nicely to ridicule itself and its new policy of "strategic depth". Other powers in the Med also have claims of strategic depth. Powers such as France, Italy, Greece, Israel and Egypt who are not about to let their vital interests be trampled on by some neo Ottoman dunderheads. Davut has shown himself to be a master of confusion. On one hand he claims that Turkey has no obligation to obey the Law of the Sea because it has not ratified it, on the other that neighboring countries are violating that very law at Turkey's expense. Pure neo ottoman bullshit, vintage Davut!

A few weeks ago some genius (do not recall the name) of the Turkish foreign ministry proclaimed that Turkey has overriding interests in the easter Med because it has 1500 kilometers of coastline. WOW, no kidding! Greece has 16000 kilometers, which by logical conclusion would give it ten times as many rights. Some dudes just never learn!

First the EU membership, now the gas exploration, and more to come in the future to prove that Turkey's Cyprus policy is untenable and a dead end. It will take time to sink in, but it will evenutally.

[Nikitas]

Some study of long term US policy goals would be useful for the neo ottoman establishment in Ankara. The USA is unwilling to compromise freedom of navigation. It is therefore preferable to the USA to have the EEZ zones be divided in multiple pieces held by "manageable" powers like Lebanon, Syria, Cyprus, and by committed an reliable allies like Israel, as opposed to huge chunks governed by potentially hostile and overly ambitious neo ottomans.

Turkey should have thought of all this before it sent its navy on a Mediterranean wide show of force last year and before it started to stretch the limits of innocent passage through neihgboring territorial waters and other innanne shows of force like the incessant stream of notams and navtex warnings. Things do turn around and bite you in the ass.

[Kikapu]

Some study of long term US policy goals would be useful for the neo ottoman establishment in Ankara. The USA is unwilling to compromise freedom of navigation. It is therefore preferable to the USA to have the EEZ zones be divided in multiple pieces held by "manageable" powers like Lebanon, Syria, Cyprus, and by committed an reliable allies like Israel, as opposed to huge chunks governed by potentially hostile and overly ambitious neo ottomans.

Turkey should have thought of all this before it sent its navy on a Mediterranean wide show of force last year and before it started to stretch the limits of innocent passage through neihgboring territorial waters and other innanne shows of force like the incessant stream of notams and navtex warnings. Things do turn around and bite you in the ass.

Nikitas,

I just think there is a lot of frustration within Turkey's leadership, that as religious people as they are who believe in Allah and pray for him 5 times a day, that they just cannot understands Allah's "sense of humour" as to why of all the places that the Ottomans once occupied seems to have found Gas and Oil, but the only place where the remnants of the Ottoman still remain, Turkey, do not have any of these natural resources. They do not understand why the cruel joke played on them by Allah. They want to break free from Allah's cruel joke played on them by at least try and re-capture some of that long gone Ottoman land back, but even there Allah's cruel joke on them did not end, because when Turkey occupies northern part of Cyprus illegally, the Oil and Gas is on the southern coast of Cyprus, and Allah's cruel joke gets even worse, because not only the Oil and Gas is entirely on RoC's territory, but it is also on EU territory too, which Turkey wants to be part of. The more Turkey attempts fate with Allah's destiny for her, the more Allah's jokes gets cruel for her. When will Turkey accept that she is what she is meant to be, because if Allah wanted something much different for Turkey than what she is today, it would have happened long time ago already.

[Viewpoint]

There's plenty of oil and gas in Turkey as well, only sheep will follow your every word as gospel.

[Kikapu]

There's plenty of oil and gas in Turkey as well, only sheep will follow your every word as gospel.

Really.

Where ?