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Postby EPSILON » Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:59 pm

Dear All,

Long time now and considering the endless negotiations betwen (pesonally believe -the Ocupator and the looser of the war) I am wondering what actually can happen in case G/cs withdrawn from negotiation table and ask -or better demand- that UN must apply their main resolutions for CB since 1974 and particularly the withdrawal of the invasion army as well as to "demand" that EU regulations are the only regulations/provisions about the state's affairs which can be accepted as a solution for the present or even a new state.

What will be the result afterwards? Is Turkey to invate the South side? Can EU deny its own regulations to apply to a member of EU. Is UN able to overcome the basic fact that "North" can not be recognized as official state as same is a result of the force of arms?

Actually , so many years, i can not understand what G/cs are looking out of an "agreement" with the invasion army? Are T/cs so important to be considered as citizens of ROC , at the time they are working and pay taxes to an other -even not official-state?

Generally the situation in Cyprus for these 37 years looks like a joke. Its looks like a fox is asking from a lion to share the meat in the ground.
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Re: LETS SAY

Postby EPSILON » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:02 pm

EPSILON wrote:Dear All,

Long time now and considering the endless negotiations betwen (pesonally believe -the Ocupator and the looser of the war) I am wondering what actually can happen in case G/cs withdrawn from negotiation table and ask -or better demand- that UN must apply their main resolutions for CB since 1974 and particularly the withdrawal of the invasion army as well as to "demand" that EU regulations are the only regulations/provisions about the state's affairs which can be accepted as a solution for the present or even a new state.

What will be the result afterwards? Is Turkey to invate the South side? Can EU deny its own regulations to apply to a member of EU. Is UN able to overcome the basic fact that "North" can not be recognized as official state as same is a result of the force of arms?

Actually , so many years, i can not understand what G/cs are looking out of an "agreement" with the invasion army? Are T/cs so important to be considered as citizens of ROC , at the time they are working and pay taxes to an other -even not official-state?

Generally the situation in Cyprus for these 37 years looks like a joke. Its looks like a fox is asking from a lion to share the meat in the ground.


A just aditional step- ROC to apply to NATO for membership-this will be something interesting
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Re: LETS SAY

Postby CBBB » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:04 pm

Anyone one on here that can translate all that in to English for me?
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Postby EPSILON » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:06 pm

CBBB wrote:Anyone one on here that can translate all that in to English for me?


pls do not try to avoid the meaning and stop posting bshts.
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Re: LETS SAY

Postby EPSILON » Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:34 pm

EPSILON wrote:
CBBB wrote:Anyone one on here that can translate all that in to English for me?


pls do not try to avoid the meaning and stop posting bshts.



Ok Gtlmn

if nobody reply on this topic within the next 23mnts i will not participate in this forum for 48hrs-this is a real threat.!!!
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Re: LETS SAY

Postby CBBB » Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:02 pm

EPSILON wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
CBBB wrote:Anyone one on here that can translate all that in to English for me?


pls do not try to avoid the meaning and stop posting bshts.



Ok Gtlmn

if nobody reply on this topic within the next 23mnts i will not participate in this forum for 48hrs-this is a real threat.!!!


Did I wait long enough?
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Re: LETS SAY

Postby denizaksulu » Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:17 pm

GRACE!!!! 8)
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Re: LETS SAY

Postby denizaksulu » Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:19 pm

Turkey will not bat an eye-lid. Cyprus can forget NATO. All these years the west did nothing, what makes you think they can change that now?
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Re: LETS SAY

Postby Maximus » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:12 pm

denizaksulu wrote:All these years the west did nothing, what makes you think they can change that now?


We are all but shadows and dust, shadows and dust denizaksulu!

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Re: LETS SAY

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:03 pm

EPSILON wrote:Dear All,

Long time now and considering the endless negotiations betwen (pesonally believe -the Ocupator and the looser of the war) I am wondering what actually can happen in case G/cs withdrawn from negotiation table and ask -or better demand- that UN must apply their main resolutions for CB since 1974 and particularly the withdrawal of the invasion army as well as to "demand" that EU regulations are the only regulations/provisions about the state's affairs which can be accepted as a solution for the present or even a new state.

What will be the result afterwards? Is Turkey to invate the South side? Can EU deny its own regulations to apply to a member of EU. Is UN able to overcome the basic fact that "North" can not be recognized as official state as same is a result of the force of arms?

Actually , so many years, i can not understand what G/cs are looking out of an "agreement" with the invasion army? Are T/cs so important to be considered as citizens of ROC , at the time they are working and pay taxes to an other -even not official-state?

Generally the situation in Cyprus for these 37 years looks like a joke. Its looks like a fox is asking from a lion to share the meat in the ground.


Interesting questions Epsilon.
But unfortunately this forum is not a "think tank" panel as it should be imo.

The RoC should have done that as soon as Turkey refused to abide with the first UN resolutions.
I mean what is there to discuss with an invader and their puppet administration?
But hold on for a minute Turkey was NEVER called an invader by the UN!!!The invasion was always called as intervention!! And by the eyes of the UN a legal one at least in the way it started!! The puppet administration still had a leader of the TC community and that's all it mattered to them!!
The refugees were never called refugees, they were called displaced persons!!! Because according to UN definitions to be a refugee you must be displaced from your country to another country!!
And for the UN to authorize military action against TUrkey that should go to the security council, and get a pass, and most importantly have a superpower like the USA execute it, like it happened when Iraq invaded Kuwait.

Under all this nonsense and inaction, our side had no other choice than try the negotiating table. And here we are...
After messing everything up, after submitting to each and every paranoid demand of Dektash during the years we finally came to the Anan Plan that again our great Tpap when on to negotiate without even having read it. Such "great" Presidents we had! After we almost got burned and the pseudo started having real hopes for recognition here we are to today.

At this stage my friend we CANNOT do what you suggest. Because the dead Anan Plan is actually a living vampire.

As for the EU it's not a matter of demanding.Ourselves can put an end to Turkeys EU road.
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