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Re: Gloria Jean's Coffees opens 3 new stores in occuppied Cy

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:05 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:These branches have been open for some time now.


Have you visited them? :wink:



Sure plenty of times.


I had no doubts !! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Gloria Jean's Coffees opens 3 new stores in occuppied Cy

Postby Hermes » Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:06 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:These branches have been open for some time now.


Have you visited them? :wink:



Sure plenty of times.


Do you know the sugar and fat content of their products? 95g of sugar per coffee! Do you know what that does to your brain?

It explains a lot.
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Re: Gloria Jean's Coffees opens 3 new stores in occuppied Cy

Postby CBBB » Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:17 pm

Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:These branches have been open for some time now.


Have you visited them? :wink:



Sure plenty of times.


Do you know the sugar and fat content of their products? 95g of sugar per coffee! Do you know what that does to your brain?

It explains a lot.


It is not a problem for him, he goes there when YBollocks is using the brain cell they share.
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Re: Gloria Jean's Coffees opens 3 new stores in occuppied Cy

Postby gardash » Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:42 am

These coffee shops are franchises, and as such have no say in who else may become a franchisee. Why would you want to take your spite out on someone who is not responsible for the actions of the franchiser in another country.
Sorry. Forgot. You GCs only understand boycotts and embargoes. All stick and no carrot.
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Re: Gloria Jean's Coffees opens 3 new stores in occuppied Cy

Postby CBBB » Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:48 am

gardash wrote:All stick and no carrot.


You mean unlike your government in Turkey? The RoC will not get this, will not do that!
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Re: Gloria Jean's Coffees opens 3 new stores in occuppied Cy

Postby Piratis » Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:02 am

gardash wrote:These coffee shops are franchises, and as such have no say in who else may become a franchisee. Why would you want to take your spite out on someone who is not responsible for the actions of the franchiser in another country.
Sorry. Forgot. You GCs only understand boycotts and embargoes. All stick and no carrot.


You forget about the worst kind of embargo that can exist: stopping people from living in their own homes and the lands their ancestors have lived for 1000s of years. You are not the innocent victims here. What you face are just some consequences (too few in my opinion) for the massive human rights violations, ethnic cleansing and illegal occupation of 1/3rd of Republic of Cyprus. The Cypriot people have never ventured out of their own island to harm anybody. It is the Turks who have invaded our island multiple times and who keep bringing their troops and their Anatolian Settlers here with the aim to forcefully Turkify Cyprus.

Many others have passed from Cyprus as invaders in the past but today they respect us and we are friends. Why can't the Turks finally do the same and accept to let Cypriots live free in their own island? Apparently their own geo-strategic interests are far more important that peace and friendship with the Cypriots.
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Re: Gloria Jean's Coffees opens 3 new stores in occuppied Cy

Postby gardash » Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:15 am

Piratis wrote:
gardash wrote:These coffee shops are franchises, and as such have no say in who else may become a franchisee. Why would you want to take your spite out on someone who is not responsible for the actions of the franchiser in another country.
Sorry. Forgot. You GCs only understand boycotts and embargoes. All stick and no carrot.


You forget about the worst kind of embargo that can exist: stopping people from living in their own homes and the lands their ancestors have lived for 1000s of years. You are not the innocent victims here. What you face are just some consequences (too few in my opinion) for the massive human rights violations, ethnic cleansing and illegal occupation of 1/3rd of Republic of Cyprus. The Cypriot people have never ventured out of their own island to harm anybody. It is the Turks who have invaded our island multiple times and who keep bringing their troops and their Anatolian Settlers here with the aim to forcefully Turkify Cyprus.

Many others have passed from Cyprus as invaders in the past but today they respect us and we are friends. Why can't the Turks finally do the same and accept to let Cypriots live free in their own island? Apparently their own geo-strategic interests are far more important that peace and friendship with the Cypriots.


Very eloquent, I'm sure, but what has all that to do with a coffee shop franchisee? If you want to take your grievance out on someone, take it out on the franchiser.
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Re: Gloria Jean's Coffees opens 3 new stores in occuppied Cy

Postby Piratis » Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:37 am

gardash wrote:
Piratis wrote:
gardash wrote:These coffee shops are franchises, and as such have no say in who else may become a franchisee. Why would you want to take your spite out on someone who is not responsible for the actions of the franchiser in another country.
Sorry. Forgot. You GCs only understand boycotts and embargoes. All stick and no carrot.


You forget about the worst kind of embargo that can exist: stopping people from living in their own homes and the lands their ancestors have lived for 1000s of years. You are not the innocent victims here. What you face are just some consequences (too few in my opinion) for the massive human rights violations, ethnic cleansing and illegal occupation of 1/3rd of Republic of Cyprus. The Cypriot people have never ventured out of their own island to harm anybody. It is the Turks who have invaded our island multiple times and who keep bringing their troops and their Anatolian Settlers here with the aim to forcefully Turkify Cyprus.

Many others have passed from Cyprus as invaders in the past but today they respect us and we are friends. Why can't the Turks finally do the same and accept to let Cypriots live free in their own island? Apparently their own geo-strategic interests are far more important that peace and friendship with the Cypriots.


Very eloquent, I'm sure, but what has all that to do with a coffee shop franchisee? If you want to take your grievance out on someone, take it out on the franchiser.
http://www.gloriajeanscoffees.com



It is the franchiser that is targeted. The franchiser receives money in order to allow the use of its name and branded products. If people in the free part of Cyprus reduce their visits to the cafes of this franchise then those cafes will be forced to close down. The net result is that the franchiser will lose from the choice to allow the franchise to operate in the occupied part of Cyprus. The franchisee can simply abandon such franchises and cooperate with ones that respect Cyprus.

But my reply was not about the franchiser and the franchisees. It was about what you said about embargoes and "sticks". I find it really hypocritical when the TCs react in such a way about such minor issues, accusing GCs of boycotts and embargoes, and they forget that they embargo us from our own homes and properties for decades. Turkey (with the help of TCs) is keeping 1/3rd of Cyprus as hostage trying to blackmail us to accept some unfair, racist and undemocratic "solution" that would effectively legitimize the results of the invasion and ethnic cleansing against us, and then you complain about such minor issues that are only a reaction to the illegal occupation of our country by Turkish troops?
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Re: Gloria Jean's Coffees opens 3 new stores in occuppied Cy

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:48 am

What about the TCs that lost their homes in 1963? where were your morals then? or do they only come into play when GCs lose out.
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Re: Gloria Jean's Coffees opens 3 new stores in occuppied Cy

Postby gardash » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:12 pm

Piratis wrote:
gardash wrote:
Piratis wrote:
gardash wrote:These coffee shops are franchises, and as such have no say in who else may become a franchisee. Why would you want to take your spite out on someone who is not responsible for the actions of the franchiser in another country.
Sorry. Forgot. You GCs only understand boycotts and embargoes. All stick and no carrot.


You forget about the worst kind of embargo that can exist: stopping people from living in their own homes and the lands their ancestors have lived for 1000s of years. You are not the innocent victims here. What you face are just some consequences (too few in my opinion) for the massive human rights violations, ethnic cleansing and illegal occupation of 1/3rd of Republic of Cyprus. The Cypriot people have never ventured out of their own island to harm anybody. It is the Turks who have invaded our island multiple times and who keep bringing their troops and their Anatolian Settlers here with the aim to forcefully Turkify Cyprus.

Many others have passed from Cyprus as invaders in the past but today they respect us and we are friends. Why can't the Turks finally do the same and accept to let Cypriots live free in their own island? Apparently their own geo-strategic interests are far more important that peace and friendship with the Cypriots.


Very eloquent, I'm sure, but what has all that to do with a coffee shop franchisee? If you want to take your grievance out on someone, take it out on the franchiser.
http://www.gloriajeanscoffees.com



It is the franchiser that is targeted. The franchiser receives money in order to allow the use of its name and branded products. If people in the free part of Cyprus reduce their visits to the cafes of this franchise then those cafes will be forced to close down. The net result is that the franchiser will lose from the choice to allow the franchise to operate in the occupied part of Cyprus. The franchisee can simply abandon such franchises and cooperate with ones that respect Cyprus.

But my reply was not about the franchiser and the franchisees. It was about what you said about embargoes and "sticks". I find it really hypocritical when the TCs react in such a way about such minor issues, accusing GCs of boycotts and embargoes, and they forget that they embargo us from our own homes and properties for decades. Turkey (with the help of TCs) is keeping 1/3rd of Cyprus as hostage trying to blackmail us to accept some unfair, racist and undemocratic "solution" that would effectively legitimize the results of the invasion and ethnic cleansing against us, and then you complain about such minor issues that are only a reaction to the illegal occupation of our country by Turkish troops?


And in the meantime, the poor franchisee, who has paid good money for the franchise, loses his money so that you can get to throw your weight around. Current franchisees have no say in where new franchises are set up.
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