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Turkey to deter gas exploration plans

Postby boomerang » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:27 pm

Turkey to deter gas exploration plans
ANKARA- Hürriyet Daily News

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“We have conveyed our reservations to the U.N., the firm and the U.S. several times and warned that [such drilling] would not be legitimate

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The firm and the U.S. administration have not yet responded positively to Ankara’s warning, the official said.

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http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2011-08-05


the firm, $13 billion company and jewish to top it, the US government, gas hungry to the max, enter gas starved EU are having a laugh at the turks, as if the firm wouldn't have permission and assurances from the US government...and i like how the turks are demanding action with warnings... :lol:
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Re: Turkey to deter gas exploration plans

Postby Kikapu » Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:07 pm

boomerang wrote:
Turkey to deter gas exploration plans
ANKARA- Hürriyet Daily News

yada yada yada

“We have conveyed our reservations to the U.N., the firm and the U.S. several times and warned that [such drilling] would not be legitimate

yada yada yada

The firm and the U.S. administration have not yet responded positively to Ankara’s warning, the official said.

yada yada yada
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2011-08-05


the firm, $13 billion company and jewish to top it, the US government, gas hungry to the max, enter gas starved EU are having a laugh at the turks, as if the firm wouldn't have permission and assurances from the US government...and i like how the turks are demanding action with warnings... :lol:


“We have conveyed our reservations to the U.N., the firm and the U.S. several times and warned that [such drilling] would not be legitimate and would have negative outcomes on the political [reunification] process for Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots,” a senior ministry official told the Hürriyet Daily News on condition of anonymity. Noble Energy, a U.S. firm, is planning to begin drilling for natural gas off southern Cyprus’ coast on Oct. 1. Ankara has warned the parties not to proceed, noting that such activities would negatively affect ongoing talks between two sides.


Why is it, when Erdogan states that there will be no compromise on territory to be given back to the RoC to reach a settlement is not detrimental to the so called "peace negotiations" , but drilling for Gas and Oil is.? :roll:

Why is piping water in the future as a done deal from Turkey to the "trnc" (pipe dream actually :lol: ) is not detrimental to settlement talks, but drilling for Gas and Oil is.? :roll:

Why is it Turkey proposing to build Nuclear Power station in the north as a done deal (Turkey can't even build one themselves in Turkey :lol: ) is not detrimental to the settlement talks, but drilling for Gas and Oil is.? :roll:

Just asking!
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Re: Turkey to deter gas exploration plans

Postby supporttheunderdog » Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:12 pm

Very fair questions indeed.
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Re: Turkey to deter gas exploration plans

Postby Cap » Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:31 pm

The heading should read:

T***ey to deter gas exploration plans by AMERICAN and JEWISH companies in Cyprus.

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Nerdogun, you're dealing with American interests boy, what you gonna do? Bomb Washington?
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Re: Turkey to deter gas exploration plans

Postby Hermes » Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:44 pm

boomerang wrote:The firm and the U.S. administration have not yet responded positively to Ankara’s warning, the official said.


My advice to Turkey is to form a flotilla of "freedom vessels" and sail them to America. When they arrive on land they should yell "God is great!" and run around until someone takes notice. Good luck!
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Re: Turkey to deter gas exploration plans

Postby kurupetos » Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:58 pm

There's rumour gas deposits were found in the 'trnc'. Or maybe is VP farting again.
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Re: Turkey to deter gas exploration plans

Postby Cap » Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:03 pm

Hermes wrote:
boomerang wrote:The firm and the U.S. administration have not yet responded positively to Ankara’s warning, the official said.


My advice to Turkey is to form a flotilla of "freedom vessels" and sail them to America. When they arrive on land they should yell "God is great!" and run around until someone takes notice. Good luck!



mmm... maybe another 'peace mission' this time to America to save the oppressed TC minority...
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Re: Turkey to deter gas exploration plans

Postby Nikitas » Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:29 am

Davut is exhibiting strategic confusion and not depth, yet again. This is the guy who touted the "zero problems" policy with neighboring contries. He is a clown.

Turkey has been insisting since 1974 that the invasion solved the problem. In 1983 it engineered the secession of the north and has pushed for recognition of what it repeatedly calls a "state". Erdoghan ruled out any territorial adjustment, thus entrenching partition. Naturally there is no hint of GCs being allowed to share in the mineral wealth of the north even if they are the legal owners of quarries and marble pits, which are minerals. The most they can hope to get is a scandalously low "compensation".

Up to that point the scenario is understandable to foreigners and especially Anglosaxons. But try and tell them that this breakaway "state" has proprietary interests in the south, in an area where Turkey cannot possibly have any interest, and they will give the obvious answer, Fuck Off.

If you want proprietary rights over the whole island, for the TCs, then dissolve the TRNC, reject any notion of confederation, and partition obviously, get rid of settlers. In short, prove you are Cypriot and then you get a share. Till then partition stands.

Now for the question of individual share in the new wealth, if there is any, I have said it before. Give every Cypriot citizen shares in the gas revenues. Shares in the form of RoC issued share certificates. Make everyone, GC, TC and other, a stake holder in RoC petroleum and see how fast the bombast of Turkey will dissolve into thin air. But these are radical ideas and unlikely to be adopted in a society as conservative as ours.
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Re: Turkey to deter gas exploration plans

Postby boomerang » Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:52 am

the obvious move nikitas is to recognize the trashcan after the oil is pumped...i wonder what turkey will do?...i wonder if will accept partition then...
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Re: Turkey to deter gas exploration plans

Postby Nikitas » Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:08 am

Boomerang, Turkey is caught in an anachronistic policy regarding Cyprus and this is reflected in its protests about the gas and oil. The idea was to use the TCs to regain control over the whole island. In 1974 they thought they had knocked out their main rival, Greece. In their self centered manner they forgot the Cypriots. Their attitude to Cypriots is openy and obviouisly racist. They call GCs Rum, not Yunan, an obvious attempt to diminish their status as less than Greeks.

The Rums though managed to join the EU, and now there is an elephant in the room. The paleo-ottoman plan to gain control over the whole island won't cut it anymore. In their neo-ottoman fantasy it is easy to displace Rums, not so easy to do the same with the EU. So they come up with ridiculous ideas, thinking that they are being clever, like dealing with the EEZ issue under international law when they do not accept the specific part of international law that deals with the EEZ- the Law of the Sea.

The way forward is obvious, but it will take time for the Turks to get there, because it ncessitates rejecting the neo-ottoman bullshit theories of Davut and Co. One way to stop a hostile power from taking over the island is to give ALL control to its lawful inhabitants and no one else.

I sometimes wonder what they would do if the RoC leagalised the trashcan by recognising it and officially ceding territory to it. Ironic as it is, the RoC is the only entity that can legalise the north. I bet if that were to happen the first nation to reject it and call for sanctions would be Turkey.
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