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[Kikapu]

True story.

Couple of years ago, my girlfriend and I flew to Seattle from San Francisco, rented a car and drove to Vancouver B.C., Canada. On our return back to the US few days later, we were met at the border by a young female border agent. Upon showing my US passport and my girlfriend's Swiss passport, the agent asked the usual boring question as to where and when we met. I told her.

Then she asked me, "where is Cyprus", since my birth place is written as Nicosia in the passport. I said "It's an Island".

She then said, "I didn't ask you what it was. I asked you where it was".

I said, "It's South of Turkey and off the coast of Israel in the Eastern corner of the Mediterranean" hoping that she would have at least heard of those two countries as an young American, and without a pause, I then said to her, "and it has been there for a while".

My girlfriend was discreetly nudging me gently as we sat in the car for me to stop making the border agent look foolish.

After few more questions as to where we had been and why and where we were going and why, we were allowed to cross into the US. I don't know whether she was testing me if i knew where Cyprus was, or whether she had never heard of the place. That's the reason why I said Israel and not Lebanon or Syria as the other countries closer to Cyprus than Israel. Most Americans have never left the state they were born in, let alone travel abroad or learn a second language.

My girlfriend was just happy we were not detained for few hours as a pun]ishment for my "smart aleck" comments to the border agent.

>>Most Americans have never left the state they were born in, let alone travel abroad or learn a second language.<<

Kikapu, it surprises me that you subscribe to this. I am representative of "most" Americans, y yo hablo Espanol kai Ellinika (3 generations removed from the "old country"). My family has collectively covered global territory inclusive of Europe, Asia, South America, and most of North America. Fifty percent of traditional American college students travel abroad during their studies. The typical high school curriculum requires a minimum of 2 years of a foreign language. Most 4-year colleges like to see 3 years on the applicants' transcripts. Are the only Americans you've associated with from rural Appalachia? I could, in return - but I know better - remark that most Cypriots, if they ever left the island, did so - as I'm guessing you did - because it has little to offer by way of preparing its people to compete in a Twenty-First Century global economy and that, should they know a second language, it was a consequence of it being forced upon them by occupiers or imperialists.

Well Filitsa, seems you have been living in the states too long and have become yankified.

http://www.theexpeditioner.com/2010/02/ ... assport-2/

Most Americans don't have a passport.

There are other li nks I could give, but you suffer the typical American dream BS, that no other country exists outside the US.

I watched a documentary not that long ago, a tv crew on the streets of the US asking every day people to point to various countires on a globe. The never had a clue, most didn't even realise the planet was spherical.

Kiks, you are right man, most yanks are full of shit, arrogant and stupid.

Thanks

Just hang on a bit, B25. Filitsa and I are here to tell you that we as Americans do not fit that bill above.

Before 9/11 in 2001, it is true that most Americans did not have passports for travelling abroad (as the case may still be today), but that's because Americans could use their Drivers licences and ID cards to enter the US, specially for those who travelled to Canada, Mexico and beyond to Central and South America. We didn't even need any ID's to travel on any of the domestic flights. One was able to fly under others names on plane tickets domestically, no problem before 2001. I don't know how many countries allowed US citizens to travel to their country with only a US drivers licence or just a ID card issued by the Department of Motor Vehicle, but my guess is, many did as they were very much widely used, therefore, despite many Americans not having passports, many did travel abroad all the same. Since 2001 however, the US did set a deadline for Americans to obtain US passports for travelling abroad, even when returning from Canada or Mexico. I believe it was not too long ago where Drivers licences and ID cards can no longer be used as an ID to enter the USA without a US passport for Americans, unless a duel citizens use another passport. Using the word "most" is very subjective and it's difficult to know how many do or has travelled abroad, since many 1st and 2nd generations of immigrants are more likely to travel back to their country of origin than those immigrants arriving to the US from much earlier years.

[Kikapu]

Bit long in the tooth to be playing "girlfirend" thing, the image of you a 56yo with an 18yo on your arm yuk, always thought you were a pervert.

What makes you think a "girlfriend thing" ONLY means an 18 year old.

But you approve of this right, because you said you met him once or twice. Did you tell this old fart that he was a pervert.?

I doubt it. You once again chickened out.

They are married.

What an old fashioned view about relationships.
Does a marriage between a man of 56 and a girl of 18 make any difference as to whether or not a man may or may not be a perve?
In any event she had to be his girlfriend first!

The age imbalance whether married or not does not make it any better when they are married.

So then why isn't your old fart friend not a pervert with his young bride as you claim I would be with your imaginary 18 year as my girlfriend.

This topic has been very revealing actually as to who VP is. Most suspect, as I do, that VP is a female and this thread has confirmed that to me.

Lets be honest here. How many man in their 40's, 50's 60's and beyond would find it disgusting to having sex with a willing and mature 18 year old female. I'm not saying they will all act on it given the chance, but how many of these man would find the thought of having sex with an 18 year female so disgusting as VP has told us that he was. I'm sorry, but I don't think any man who is alive and sexually active will find the thought of having sex with an 18 year old disgusting. Hell, men spend all day long looking at women who are sexually attractive to them, even the 18 year old females. So either VP is not attracted to women at all or VP is not a man at all. I personally think VP is one of the "Desperate Housewives" who sounds very angry and bitter of man finding 18 year old women sexually attractive. Perhaps VP's husband has been fooling around with younger women and VP has found out and feels it is disgusting for older man to be having sex with younger women. Perhaps VP's husband is no longer attracted to her sexually as she has lost her sex appeal and that he visits whorehouses instead, to have sex with younger women. It wouldn't be the first time such a thing happening. So, I think VP has confirmed to me that VP is a female and that she is very bitter towards young females. I bet VP is even jealous of her daughter who may be around 20 years old. I just find it very odd, that without any information of how old my girlfriend was 2 years go in the story I told, VP automatically gave the age 18 for her and finds it disgusting that an older man and younger women having sex together. In fact, VP went a little further and used the word "fucking". It's all too strange if you ask me, that from a little innocent story told by me regarding Cyprus and the US border agent, the conversation became about sex between an older man and a younger woman, specially VP has known since I've been on the forum in 2006 that I was with a girlfriend, but has never reacted before. So, there you have it, that to me, VP is a confirmed female and a very bitter one at that towards 18 year old females.

[Filitsa]

True story.

Couple of years ago, my girlfriend and I flew to Seattle from San Francisco, rented a car and drove to Vancouver B.C., Canada. On our return back to the US few days later, we were met at the border by a young female border agent. Upon showing my US passport and my girlfriend's Swiss passport, the agent asked the usual boring question as to where and when we met. I told her.

Then she asked me, "where is Cyprus", since my birth place is written as Nicosia in the passport. I said "It's an Island".

She then said, "I didn't ask you what it was. I asked you where it was".

I said, "It's South of Turkey and off the coast of Israel in the Eastern corner of the Mediterranean" hoping that she would have at least heard of those two countries as an young American, and without a pause, I then said to her, "and it has been there for a while".

My girlfriend was discreetly nudging me gently as we sat in the car for me to stop making the border agent look foolish.

After few more questions as to where we had been and why and where we were going and why, we were allowed to cross into the US. I don't know whether she was testing me if i knew where Cyprus was, or whether she had never heard of the place. That's the reason why I said Israel and not Lebanon or Syria as the other countries closer to Cyprus than Israel. Most Americans have never left the state they were born in, let alone travel abroad or learn a second language.

My girlfriend was just happy we were not detained for few hours as a pun]ishment for my "smart aleck" comments to the border agent.

>>Most Americans have never left the state they were born in, let alone travel abroad or learn a second language.<<

Kikapu, it surprises me that you subscribe to this. I am representative of "most" Americans, y yo hablo Espanol kai Ellinika (3 generations removed from the "old country"). My family has collectively covered global territory inclusive of Europe, Asia, South America, and most of North America. Fifty percent of traditional American college students travel abroad during their studies. The typical high school curriculum requires a minimum of 2 years of a foreign language. Most 4-year colleges like to see 3 years on the applicants' transcripts. Are the only Americans you've associated with from rural Appalachia? I could, in return - but I know better - remark that most Cypriots, if they ever left the island, did so - as I'm guessing you did - because it has little to offer by way of preparing its people to compete in a Twenty-First Century global economy and that, should they know a second language, it was a consequence of it being forced upon them by occupiers or imperialists.

Well Filitsa, seems you have been living in the states too long and have become yankified.

http://www.theexpeditioner.com/2010/02/ ... assport-2/

Most Americans don't have a passport.

There are other li nks I could give, but you suffer the typical American dream BS, that no other country exists outside the US.

I watched a documentary not that long ago, a tv crew on the streets of the US asking every day people to point to various countires on a globe. The never had a clue, most didn't even realise the planet was spherical.

Kiks, you are right man, most yanks are full of shit, arrogant and stupid.[/b]]ill above.

Just hang on a bit, B25. Filitsa and I are here to tell you that we as Americans do not fit that bill above.

... Hope I don't disappoint you, K., but I've on occasion been accused of being "arrogant," "stupid," and "full of shit," If this makes me a "Yank" to certain pinheads, then so be it ... don't give a rat's ass. How's that for arrogance?!

[Kikapu]

True story.

Couple of years ago, my girlfriend and I flew to Seattle from San Francisco, rented a car and drove to Vancouver B.C., Canada. On our return back to the US few days later, we were met at the border by a young female border agent. Upon showing my US passport and my girlfriend's Swiss passport, the agent asked the usual boring question as to where and when we met. I told her.

Then she asked me, "where is Cyprus", since my birth place is written as Nicosia in the passport. I said "It's an Island".

She then said, "I didn't ask you what it was. I asked you where it was".

I said, "It's South of Turkey and off the coast of Israel in the Eastern corner of the Mediterranean" hoping that she would have at least heard of those two countries as an young American, and without a pause, I then said to her, "and it has been there for a while".

My girlfriend was discreetly nudging me gently as we sat in the car for me to stop making the border agent look foolish.

After few more questions as to where we had been and why and where we were going and why, we were allowed to cross into the US. I don't know whether she was testing me if i knew where Cyprus was, or whether she had never heard of the place. That's the reason why I said Israel and not Lebanon or Syria as the other countries closer to Cyprus than Israel. Most Americans have never left the state they were born in, let alone travel abroad or learn a second language.

My girlfriend was just happy we were not detained for few hours as a pun]ishment for my "smart aleck" comments to the border agent.

>>Most Americans have never left the state they were born in, let alone travel abroad or learn a second language.<<

Kikapu, it surprises me that you subscribe to this. I am representative of "most" Americans, y yo hablo Espanol kai Ellinika (3 generations removed from the "old country"). My family has collectively covered global territory inclusive of Europe, Asia, South America, and most of North America. Fifty percent of traditional American college students travel abroad during their studies. The typical high school curriculum requires a minimum of 2 years of a foreign language. Most 4-year colleges like to see 3 years on the applicants' transcripts. Are the only Americans you've associated with from rural Appalachia? I could, in return - but I know better - remark that most Cypriots, if they ever left the island, did so - as I'm guessing you did - because it has little to offer by way of preparing its people to compete in a Twenty-First Century global economy and that, should they know a second language, it was a consequence of it being forced upon them by occupiers or imperialists.

Well Filitsa, seems you have been living in the states too long and have become yankified.

http://www.theexpeditioner.com/2010/02/ ... assport-2/

Most Americans don't have a passport.

There are other li nks I could give, but you suffer the typical American dream BS, that no other country exists outside the US.

I watched a documentary not that long ago, a tv crew on the streets of the US asking every day people to point to various countires on a globe. The never had a clue, most didn't even realise the planet was spherical.

Kiks, you are right man, most yanks are full of shit, arrogant and stupid.[/b]]ill above.

Just hang on a bit, B25. Filitsa and I are here to tell you that we as Americans do not fit that bill above.

... Hope I don't disappoint you, K., but I've on occasion been accused of being "arrogant," "stupid," and "full of shit," If this makes me a "Yank" to certain pinheads, then so be it ... don't give a rat's ass. How's that for arrogance?!

Maybe I should have wrote, that we don't fit that bill all the TIME!

[supporttheunderdog]

there s a Joke:

The President of China and the President of Cyprus met at the UN .
The President of China asked the President of China where he was from:
"Cyprus", was the reply.

"Where is that?" said the President of China.

The President of Cyprus replied: "It is small Island in the Mediterrean sea, with aboout 1 million people".

"Oh: do you live in the same appartment block?"

Ignorance about Cyprus is not restricted to the Americans: I suspect many younger Britons now have little clue about Cyprus or its historica British connections - so woeful is the general teaching about British History these days - and there are certainly many who think Cyprus is a part of Greece. Probably few know much about the events of the 1960's culminating in the 1974 invasion, unless they have come here and gone much further than the nearest beach.

Even some of the ones that come here don't know where it is!

When I told a friend I was moving to Cyprus he said wear the fox hat.

I've got one on order,

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but I think it'll be a bit warmish for the summer

[supporttheunderdog]

Bit long in the tooth to be playing "girlfirend" thing, the image of you a 56yo with an 18yo on your arm yuk, always thought you were a pervert.

What makes you think a "girlfriend thing" ONLY means an 18 year old.

But you approve of this right, because you said you met him once or twice. Did you tell this old fart that he was a pervert.?

I doubt it. You once again chickened out.

They are married.

What an old fashioned view about relationships.
Does a marriage between a man of 56 and a girl of 18 make any difference as to whether or not a man may or may not be a perve?
In any event she had to be his girlfriend first!

The age imbalance whether married or not does not make it any better when they are married.

So what was the point of the remark above

They are married.

if it made no difference?

[bill cobbett]

Perhaps the CarpetBuggerers have something in common with Pres Obama... sure many of them couldn't point to CY on a map... they def claim not to have known of its recent history...

[Kikapu]

Perhaps the CarpetBuggerers have something in common with Pres Obama... sure many of them couldn't point to CY on a map... they def claim not to have known of its recent history...

I think you will find that one is due to ignorance, and the other, the Carpetbaggers, due to GREED.

[supporttheunderdog]

Perhaps the CarpetBuggerers have something in common with Pres Obama... sure many of them couldn't point to CY on a map... they def claim not to have known of its recent history...

I think you will find that one is due to ignorance, and the other, the Carpetbaggers, due to GREED.

when one sees some of them spouting on about "spoils of war" it cannot be ignorance - they make me seek and I amd ashamed to be of the same nationality as so many of the the Carpet B*ggers are.

[Kikapu]

Perhaps the CarpetBuggerers have something in common with Pres Obama... sure many of them couldn't point to CY on a map... they def claim not to have known of its recent history...

I think you will find that one is due to ignorance, and the other, the Carpetbaggers, due to GREED.

when one sees some of them spouting on about "spoils of war" it cannot be ignorance - they make me seek and I amd ashamed to be of the same nationality as so many of the the Carpet B*ggers are.

The ignorance was reference to those who couldn't point Cyprus on the map and GREED was for those Carpetbaggers and others, including many TCs, who bought stolen GC properties.