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[Pyrpolizer]

We do spend a lot of time in this forum on who people are, instead of what they say.
Of course usually there is a connection between the two, but on the other hand what's the point?

Not that I am any better than others, i admit I 've spent a lot of time judging Bananiot in the past.
And I admit it was stupid.

The same story is repeated endlessly against Kikapu. In the past it was against Birkibrisli as well..
What difference would it make if Kikapu were a Kypreos instead of a Kibrisli?
Perhaps Kikapu is actually a Kypreos, or from mixed marriage, or an adopted child, or simply glad to have escaped from this shit hole and raised in countries with top civilization, or a person siding with justice, or or or....
Looking at his avatar I see a black sheep that seems to be the leader among some other sheep.Should I take that as meaning something?
I don't know, but what difference would it make?

Could anyone enlighten me?

[Viewpoint]

That's a long post kiks, I will only reply to two parts of it- you say I only know about you what you want me to:

you tell me lots with the way you react to certain things I put to you -it speaks volumes every sentence you type betrays you more than you will ever know.

You know your ridiculously bias towards the gcs, it's part of your game and I have no intention of playing it because it like you bore me.

Thank you for proving my point once again, that you cannot find any examples of me supporting anything to do with the GCs that would have a negative effects on the TCs. What I support is the Universal rights for Cyprus and all Cypriots as practiced in the EU, which are Democracy, Human Rights, International Law and now the EU principles. If you think I'm being biased towards these principles, then you are right, I am. If the GCs support these same principles also, even better. If you do not support these same Principles, then you must support Fascism, Racism, Human Rights violation, anti International Laws and anti EU Principles. You can stay the "good" TC and support the institutionalised violations of such Principles in the "trnc" or you can become the Great TC and support these same EU Principles. Don't forget DTA, that there were also many "good" Germans who also supported Hitler and his institutionalised violations of others Human Rights, but there were also some Great Germans who fought against those Institutionalised crimes, no matter what these people were labeled as. The choice is yours, and if you should choose to remain the "good" TC, then you will be on the wrong side of morality, if not history. I've chosen the other alternative, regardless how you choose see it. I do not owe any allegiance to anyone or anything who chooses to violate these Principles, specially in the 21st century.

What you support takes away the very basic rights of even having the freedom to call a football team Turkish....our rights to determine our own future and the right of our children to grow up in the environment of their choice.

[Hermes]

What I support is the Universal rights for Cyprus and all Cypriots as practiced in the EU, which are Democracy, Human Rights, International Law and now the EU principles.

What you support takes away the very basic rights of even having the freedom to call a football team Turkish....our rights to determine our own future and the right of our children to grow up in the environment of their choice.

Your worst nightmare is that the EU and the UN will take away your "right" to live in an ethnically cleansed state on someone else's land. You are like a thief who complains to the judge that the law curtails his right to steal. That is all you are about.

Your concern for "human rights" is nothing but a cloak to disguise your wish to trample on the rights of others. You don't believe in "human rights". Your only wish is to satisfy your own greed and spite.

That is the "future" you wish for your children. That is the example you set them. So don't talk to us of your "rights". You don't have the slightest idea what the concept means.

[bill cobbett]

Well if you ain't got the right to something, go and invent it.

This is part of the pre-amble to what passes as a "constitution" for the "rcnt" ...

(Sorry to those of a sensitive nature to dirty the forum with this drivellous, nationalistic, lying sh...sh...shi...trash ....)

... "Whereas the Turkish Cypriot People has established that there cannot be individual rights and liberties without the acquisition of communal rights and Liberties, through the bitter experiences it had undergone until the year 1974 when the Peace Operation, which was carried out by the Heroic Turkish Armed Forces by virtue of the Motherland's natural, historical and legal right of guarantorship emanating from Agreements, provided to the Turkish Cypriots the means of living in peace, security and liberty; and ... "


So if there is no such thing as community rights in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights or in any other rights convention including the EU's Charter of Fundamental Freedoms.... well sod it! ...we'll move the goal-posts, we'll just go and dream it up and lead the CYs of the Occupied Areas up another cul-de-sac that such a right exists and that we can get Permanent Derogations to suit.

Well Dream On.

Pollocks.

[Kikapu]

That's a long post kiks, I will only reply to two parts of it- you say I only know about you what you want me to:

you tell me lots with the way you react to certain things I put to you -it speaks volumes every sentence you type betrays you more than you will ever know.

You know your ridiculously bias towards the gcs, it's part of your game and I have no intention of playing it because it like you bore me.

Thank you for proving my point once again, that you cannot find any examples of me supporting anything to do with the GCs that would have a negative effects on the TCs. What I support is the Universal rights for Cyprus and all Cypriots as practiced in the EU, which are Democracy, Human Rights, International Law and now the EU principles. If you think I'm being biased towards these principles, then you are right, I am. If the GCs support these same principles also, even better. If you do not support these same Principles, then you must support Fascism, Racism, Human Rights violation, anti International Laws and anti EU Principles. You can stay the "good" TC and support the institutionalised violations of such Principles in the "trnc" or you can become the Great TC and support these same EU Principles. Don't forget DTA, that there were also many "good" Germans who also supported Hitler and his institutionalised violations of others Human Rights, but there were also some Great Germans who fought against those Institutionalised crimes, no matter what these people were labeled as. The choice is yours, and if you should choose to remain the "good" TC, then you will be on the wrong side of morality, if not history. I've chosen the other alternative, regardless how you choose see it. I do not owe any allegiance to anyone or anything who chooses to violate these Principles, specially in the 21st century.

What you support takes away the very basic rights of even having the freedom to call a football team Turkish....our rights to determine our own future and the right of our children to grow up in the environment of their choice.

I can't even call you a "good" TC. Perhaps a "good" Turk is better suited for you, in which case, you ought to move to Turkey if you do not want to live by the EU Principles in an EU country. You should feel right at home there, until of course, Turkey too decides to adhere to those Principles by becoming an EU member in the future. You can then really move back to your roots, back to Mongolia!

[Pyrpolizer]

That's a long post kiks, I will only reply to two parts of it- you say I only know about you what you want me to:

you tell me lots with the way you react to certain things I put to you -it speaks volumes every sentence you type betrays you more than you will ever know.

You know your ridiculously bias towards the gcs, it's part of your game and I have no intention of playing it because it like you bore me.

Thank you for proving my point once again, that you cannot find any examples of me supporting anything to do with the GCs that would have a negative effects on the TCs. What I support is the Universal rights for Cyprus and all Cypriots as practiced in the EU, which are Democracy, Human Rights, International Law and now the EU principles. If you think I'm being biased towards these principles, then you are right, I am. If the GCs support these same principles also, even better. If you do not support these same Principles, then you must support Fascism, Racism, Human Rights violation, anti International Laws and anti EU Principles. You can stay the "good" TC and support the institutionalised violations of such Principles in the "trnc" or you can become the Great TC and support these same EU Principles. Don't forget DTA, that there were also many "good" Germans who also supported Hitler and his institutionalised violations of others Human Rights, but there were also some Great Germans who fought against those Institutionalised crimes, no matter what these people were labeled as. The choice is yours, and if you should choose to remain the "good" TC, then you will be on the wrong side of morality, if not history. I've chosen the other alternative, regardless how you choose see it. I do not owe any allegiance to anyone or anything who chooses to violate these Principles, specially in the 21st century.

What you support takes away the very basic rights of even having the freedom to call a football team Turkish....our rights to determine our own future and the right of our children to grow up in the environment of their choice.

Bravo, Bravo
Top provocateur with a crown

[Viewpoint]

What I support is the Universal rights for Cyprus and all Cypriots as practiced in the EU, which are Democracy, Human Rights, International Law and now the EU principles.

What you support takes away the very basic rights of even having the freedom to call a football team Turkish....our rights to determine our own future and the right of our children to grow up in the environment of their choice.

Your worst nightmare is that the EU and the UN will take away your "right" to live in an ethnically cleansed state on someone else's land. You are like a thief who complains to the judge that the law curtails his right to steal. That is all you are about.

Your concern for "human rights" is nothing but a cloak to disguise your wish to trample on the rights of others. You don't believe in "human rights". Your only wish is to satisfy your own greed and spite.

That is the "future" you wish for your children. That is the example you set them. So don't talk to us of your "rights". You don't have the slightest idea what the concept means.

Try answering the question you support a system whereby you are king and I am pauper, where you can use rules and laws to take away my right to even call a football team Turkish...why should I support such a system, why should ı allow you to trample all over us?

[Viewpoint]

That's a long post kiks, I will only reply to two parts of it- you say I only know about you what you want me to:

you tell me lots with the way you react to certain things I put to you -it speaks volumes every sentence you type betrays you more than you will ever know.

You know your ridiculously bias towards the gcs, it's part of your game and I have no intention of playing it because it like you bore me.

Thank you for proving my point once again, that you cannot find any examples of me supporting anything to do with the GCs that would have a negative effects on the TCs. What I support is the Universal rights for Cyprus and all Cypriots as practiced in the EU, which are Democracy, Human Rights, International Law and now the EU principles. If you think I'm being biased towards these principles, then you are right, I am. If the GCs support these same principles also, even better. If you do not support these same Principles, then you must support Fascism, Racism, Human Rights violation, anti International Laws and anti EU Principles. You can stay the "good" TC and support the institutionalised violations of such Principles in the "trnc" or you can become the Great TC and support these same EU Principles. Don't forget DTA, that there were also many "good" Germans who also supported Hitler and his institutionalised violations of others Human Rights, but there were also some Great Germans who fought against those Institutionalised crimes, no matter what these people were labeled as. The choice is yours, and if you should choose to remain the "good" TC, then you will be on the wrong side of morality, if not history. I've chosen the other alternative, regardless how you choose see it. I do not owe any allegiance to anyone or anything who chooses to violate these Principles, specially in the 21st century.

What you support takes away the very basic rights of even having the freedom to call a football team Turkish....our rights to determine our own future and the right of our children to grow up in the environment of their choice.

I can't even call you a "good" TC. Perhaps a "good" Turk is better suited for you, in which case, you ought to move to Turkey if you do not want to live by the EU Principles in an EU country. You should feel right at home there, until of course, Turkey too decides to adhere to those Principles by becoming an EU member in the future. You can then really move back to your roots, back to Mongolia!

A barrage of words is the oldest trick in the book to avoid answering the issue I have raised....what you support takes away my rights and places them firmly in the hands of the GCs .

[Pyrpolizer]

What I support is the Universal rights for Cyprus and all Cypriots as practiced in the EU, which are Democracy, Human Rights, International Law and now the EU principles.

What you support takes away the very basic rights of even having the freedom to call a football team Turkish....our rights to determine our own future and the right of our children to grow up in the environment of their choice.

Your worst nightmare is that the EU and the UN will take away your "right" to live in an ethnically cleansed state on someone else's land. You are like a thief who complains to the judge that the law curtails his right to steal. That is all you are about.

Your concern for "human rights" is nothing but a cloak to disguise your wish to trample on the rights of others. You don't believe in "human rights". Your only wish is to satisfy your own greed and spite.

That is the "future" you wish for your children. That is the example you set them. So don't talk to us of your "rights". You don't have the slightest idea what the concept means.

Try answering the question you support a system whereby you are king and I am pauper, where you can use rules and laws to take away my right to even call a football team Turkish...why should I support such a system, why should ı allow you to trample all over us?

I think we already discussed the issue of the team calling themselves "Turk Lefke" We explained you that if that team had that name registered before we entered the EU then she can continue using it.If not she has to apply for it and the rules say that not only her but Greek clubs as well cannot call themselves Greek. Imagine now having "Greek Nicosia", "Greek Paphos" football teams.These are the rules of the EU in registering names of Clubs, associations, and businesses. They are logical rules and aim to prevent silly things like a club of Turkish gays wanting to be called "Buyuk Pust Ataturk Club"

[Viewpoint]

So you do want to take away my rights to call my sons team a name with the word Turkish in it, plus i dont have any problems with GCs wanting to call their teams Greek Hellenes Gay whatever.