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[Kikapu]

hello Turkey going into the EU means they can stay, you cannot discriminate.....majority rule the "settlers" out number you so your biggest fear materializes right before your own eyes ( you might be dead) and of your own doing, karma.

Hello. All the settlers will be sent back before Turkey becomes an EU member as part of the agreement, AND with derogation applied, just like what Malta has, which means before anyone can come from any of the EU countries, they must first secure a job, and even then, they will not be able to vote in running the RoC.....Hello!

There's more than one way to skin a cat!

[Pyrpolizer]

Then hermes we have an impasse no solution.

As if you are the negotiator of the Turkish side!!

VP, listen:The issues of security/guarantee etc will be decided on a broad meeting after ALL other issues regarding the Cyprus problem have been agreed.In that meeting there will be Britain, Greece, Turkey, the 2 Cypriot leaders, EU and UN representatives. Whatever the result of that meeting both us and you will vote YES. There is a good possibility that there won't be any Turkish or Greek guarantees.

Then I will vote NO.

We don't care!
The majority of Kibrislis will vote yes.There have been polls in the past saying that the majority of Kibrislis would be willing to accept a compromise on a European Security Agreement, so long as Turkey also plays a part in it.
And this is the best you can get from an international meeting

[Pyrpolizer]

Viewpoint...There are no jobs in the north because they have been given to your saviours - just like your children's school places and your hospital services (which are two more reasons you all come south). Whatever pittance you think you get down south, in terms of wages, goes a long, long way in the north because you are paid in Euros or Dollars or GB Pounds - all with far superior exchange rates than the Turk lira.

Yes, you're right, I don't profess to know how TC's feel when they come south, I just made the point you were over-stating how they felt. If TC's feel so terrified when they come to the south, why do they still come? If the north has everything they need (apart from jobs, school places, hospital places, etc.), why not just stay north? By the same token I don't know how TC's feel, you cannot generalise and profess to speak on behalf of the TC community as a whole. Whenever anyone goes to another country, they must abide by the rules and regulations of the land - how many GC's do you see standing in the gardens of their former homes, shouting it's their property and the people living there are thieves and robbers? It doesn't happen. Everyone is apprehensive goign anyone to some degree. I am apprehensive going from Manchester to London or to Liverpool (if you know anything about England, these are two places Manchester people are not welcome in certain areas), but it doesn't stop me going because, deep down, I know nothing will happen. You're just as likely to get beaten up in your own area as you are somewhere else.

Surely, word of mouth would spread any attacks on TC's by GC's like wildfire and there would be revenge attacks on GC's in the north and the press would find out. Have you ever heard of TC's being attacked since the opening of the crossings? I know my dad has been to the north, to see my granddad's old farm, but nothing happened to him. From that account, why should I have any reservations of going to the north? I have, because I wouldn't give the Turk economy any money and I don't want to be associated with there in its present state.

Blimey, you state that Kikapu twists your words - what about you! Where did I state GC's would be vindicated in attacking TC's? I didn't - I stated GC's would be vindicated in showing animosity towards TC's. The problems that exist on the island are down to the Brits and the TC's. EOKA was formed to get rid of the Brits and the Brits only. The Brits got the TC's on their side so it was the GC's versus the Brits and the TC's. As I posted before, my granddad had a farm and emplyed TC's and they were all friendly with one another. My uncle was a village doctor who used to treat anyone and everyone - TC or GC - whether they could pay or not (and then he built one of the islands best clinics).

Unfortunately, I can never see an end to the conflict and Cyprus as we know it will exist forever. Cyprus is not like Germany, where they were all German and basically the same people. It's not like Ireland, where the people are all Irish, they're just different religions (another place that will never be a united country).

No it was formed to get rid of the British + GET ENOSIS.

[Viewpoint]

Then hermes we have an impasse no solution.

As if you are the negotiator of the Turkish side!!

VP, listen:The issues of security/guarantee etc will be decided on a broad meeting after ALL other issues regarding the Cyprus problem have been agreed.In that meeting there will be Britain, Greece, Turkey, the 2 Cypriot leaders, EU and UN representatives. Whatever the result of that meeting both us and you will vote YES. There is a good possibility that there won't be any Turkish or Greek guarantees.

Then I will vote NO.

And once a solution is approved without a Turkish guarantee? What will you do then? Go and live in Turkey? Because really that is your best option if you don't trust the G/Cs.

It wont happen so no need to move but you can always FO it would be better for everyone.

[Viewpoint]

hello Turkey going into the EU means they can stay, you cannot discriminate.....majority rule the "settlers" out number you so your biggest fear materializes right before your own eyes ( you might be dead) and of your own doing, karma.

Hello. All the settlers will be sent back before Turkey becomes an EU member as part of the agreement, AND with derogation applied, just like what Malta has, which means before anyone can come from any of the EU countries, they must first secure a job, and even then, they will not be able to vote in running the RoC.....Hello!

There's more than one way to skin a cat!

They will stay.....time again will prove you wrong and foolish.

[Viewpoint]

Then hermes we have an impasse no solution.

As if you are the negotiator of the Turkish side!!

VP, listen:The issues of security/guarantee etc will be decided on a broad meeting after ALL other issues regarding the Cyprus problem have been agreed.In that meeting there will be Britain, Greece, Turkey, the 2 Cypriot leaders, EU and UN representatives. Whatever the result of that meeting both us and you will vote YES. There is a good possibility that there won't be any Turkish or Greek guarantees.

Then I will vote NO.

We don't care!
The majority of Kibrislis will vote yes.There have been polls in the past saying that the majority of Kibrislis would be willing to accept a compromise on a European Security Agreement, so long as Turkey also plays a part in it.
And this is the best you can get from an international meeting

Link???

[Pyrpolizer]

Then hermes we have an impasse no solution.

As if you are the negotiator of the Turkish side!!

VP, listen:The issues of security/guarantee etc will be decided on a broad meeting after ALL other issues regarding the Cyprus problem have been agreed.In that meeting there will be Britain, Greece, Turkey, the 2 Cypriot leaders, EU and UN representatives. Whatever the result of that meeting both us and you will vote YES. There is a good possibility that there won't be any Turkish or Greek guarantees.

Then I will vote NO.

We don't care!
The majority of Kibrislis will vote yes.There have been polls in the past saying that the majority of Kibrislis would be willing to accept a compromise on a European Security Agreement, so long as Turkey also plays a part in it.
And this is the best you can get from an international meeting

Link???

In Cyprus forum

[Hermes]

Then hermes we have an impasse no solution.

As if you are the negotiator of the Turkish side!!

VP, listen:The issues of security/guarantee etc will be decided on a broad meeting after ALL other issues regarding the Cyprus problem have been agreed.In that meeting there will be Britain, Greece, Turkey, the 2 Cypriot leaders, EU and UN representatives. Whatever the result of that meeting both us and you will vote YES. There is a good possibility that there won't be any Turkish or Greek guarantees.

Then I will vote NO.

And once a solution is approved without a Turkish guarantee? What will you do then? Go and live in Turkey? Because really that is your best option if you don't trust the G/Cs.

It wont happen so no need to move but you can always FO it would be better for everyone.

What's wrong with you? I was asking what you would do if there is an agreement without a Turkish guarantee. Would you stay? Yes or no? It's really a simple question.

[wallace]

Minorities can't reply to simple questions! it's their way or the highway. It will hit them like a boomerang

[Kikapu]

hello Turkey going into the EU means they can stay, you cannot discriminate.....majority rule the "settlers" out number you so your biggest fear materializes right before your own eyes ( you might be dead) and of your own doing, karma.

Hello. All the settlers will be sent back before Turkey becomes an EU member as part of the agreement, AND with derogation applied, just like what Malta has, which means before anyone can come from any of the EU countries, they must first secure a job, and even then, they will not be able to vote in running the RoC.....Hello!

There's more than one way to skin a cat!

They will stay.....time again will prove you wrong and foolish.

Just because you said so, right!

There will be a price to be paid by Turkey to become an EU member when the time comes. It may ONLY be half of Turkey or the "whole enchilada" that becomes an EU member. It all depends what happens to Turkey as a nation in the future !