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[Hermes]

As a visitor to the Island of Cyprus I do not want to get invovled in the argument that seems to be ongoing in the posts, but would like to make a suggestion if I may. Can I suggest that all cypriots whether greek or turkish read;Two equal and sovereign peoples. by Ahmet C Gaziooglu and Bitter Lemons by Durrell.? They really explain who owns what and when in cyprus!!
I would finish by suggesting that you all visit the British Cemetey in North Cyprus where a school friend of my husband is commemorated . He was 19yrs. old, a national service man, who was killed by an EOKA terrorist in the 1950's.He was neither Greek or Turkish.!

May I suggest you kindly piss off and don't come on here giving us lessons in who owns our own fucking country. Stupid patronising twat!

I would finish by suggesting you read some proper books on the history of Cyprus, and you visit the graves of those young Greek Cypriot men who were hanged and murdered by the British during the 1950s for daring to oppose colonial rule in their homeland.

[Cap]

TRNC? Is that a part of occupied Kurdistan?

[bill cobbett]

Erm on two visits to the Occupied Areas, yes as said above, the place did seem empty, apart from Kyrenia.

People were decent and friendly enough, but over-whelming imppression was of an Army Camp, TA everywhere with long convoys of military vehicles on the roads ... and loads of statues of Ataducky, one n every corner and a TA camp in-between.

[denizaksulu]

Erm on two visits to the Occupied Areas, yes as said above, the place did seem empty, apart from Kyrenia.

People were decent and friendly enough, but over-whelming imppression was of an Army Camp, TA everywhere with long convoys of military vehicles on the roads ... and loads of statues of Ataducky, one n every corner and a TA camp in-between.

İ remember before 1974, we had to pass through the Greek army camp on the way to Mare-Monte. İ did find it intimidating, even though they were not an invading army. İ dream of a de-militarised Cyprus.

[ZoC]

i feel like a shit.

[Viewpoint]

I will answer to VP, because he is apparently trying to confuse two very different things.

Personally I will never visit the north part of Cyprus while it is still occupied by foreign invaders.

Thats for the best as you could cause offense and unnecessary trouble.

Now to the question: "How does it feel to be a minority". I've been a minority when I lived abroad, and there was no problem for me at all. Being a minority because you and people of your ethnicity moved to an area which was already inhabited by a different ethnic group shouldn't be a problem to you. It was due to your own ancestors choice that Turks/Muslims are a minority in Cyprus. The majority of the Cypriot population can not be blamed because there is a Turkish minority here. We didn't import your ethnic group as slaves (as it was the case with black people in USA/Europe) and we didn't reduce you into a minority by force (as it was the case with Native Americans in the USA, the Aboriginals in Australia or the Greeks in western Asia Minor). There is a Turkish minority here because your ancestors invaded our island and oppressed us, and if there is somebody who should apologize for past events, this is you, not us.

But thats not your country so quite rightly you accept being a minority.

On the other hand, the Greek Cypriots have been the majority of the whole Cyprus, including the north part, for 1000s of years. You made GCs a minority by criminal illegal means, such as mass murder, ethnic cleansing and importation of Anatolian Settlers to whom you gave the properties stolen from us.

Your started and lost a war.

There are 100s of thousands of Cypriots who live in other countries as minorities. Being a minority is not the issue. The issue are the crimes you committed and continue to commit against the vast majority of the Cypriot population.

How about you being a minority in your own country, you have not really told us how you would feel amongst the majority being TCs.

[Viewpoint]

I was at the seaside today and there were a number of GCs families swimming in the sea, how do they feel now the tables are turned being the minority amongst TCs? as we were pre 1974....although we are much friendlier and GCs are allowed at all our beaches.

Why didn't you ask the GC family the same question you are asking on the forum, or were you shit scared that they were going to crap all over you, the Racist that you are? I'm sure it bothered you that there was Greek being spoken around your family, which must have infuriated you, the Racist that you are, and that's the reason why now you want to take some cheap shot with your insensitivity. You are just a provocateur really here on the forum without any substance, but a coward to confront the GCs family at the beach. Seems like the GC family has more balls than you by them going to the north, despite encountering Racists like you. VP, the big-shot talker on the forum, but quite the chicken in reality.

Do you go around talking to strangers?, im sure they would not have felt comfortable being approached by strangers. They are no different from any other tourists they can come enjoy our hospitality then go home.

[Viewpoint]

My first reaction was 'what a shit-hole they've turned it into'. My second reaction was 'where are all the people?' On finally seeing some people my reaction was 'where are all the Turkish Cypriots?' My fourth reaction was 'how the fuck did I end up in the tribal regions of Pakistan?' My fifth reaction was 'get me out of this place. Fast.'

Pretty much like the shitty south.

[Viewpoint]

Really I dont mind as I feel a foreigner in the south.

But you are a foreigner, in ALL parts of Cyprus, since you have zero connection to the land. Your only connection is because your parents happens to be Cypriots and since you do not even embrace being a Cypriot, then you will always be a foreigner. All you are is just a another foreign squatter on others stolen land. Your true home is the UK where you were born and where you grew up and spend your the first 30 years and since you do not have a RoC citizenship and you outright reject being a Cypriot, then you will always be a foreigner in Cyprus. The "trnc" does not make you a Cypriot, or else all those illegal settlers with worthless "trnc citizenship" would be able to enter EU territories. They cannot, but the TCs can because they are Cypriots. If it wasn't for your British passport, you couldn't enter the RoC either!

You either have it or you dont Kikapu no need to be so jealous,

[Viewpoint]

I visit the ROC and it feels good becuase i know there arnt 40,000 troops raping the ROC, secondly i also feel good when i see and mingle with my GC brothers and sisters who do visit the 'north' to have dinner with me, when i hear greek and Turkish being spoken at the beaches i feel happy, because that is the 'natural order of things' like trout head davutoglu says, 'the normalization of history'.

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No there are 12000 GC armed soldiers and 100.000 GC armed reservists, ignorance is bliss.