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Pyro and what if you are wrong??? which I believe you are, GCs including Kikapu want to annihilate Turkey so do you think they will defend her economy or anything else for that matter....ıf you go back a few years we have all been told Turkeys economy is about to crumble yet she turned it around is doing better than even EU member states...yet you Turk haters ask us to take you seriously. As time passes the years prove exactly how wrong you would be economists are, stabbing in the dark amateurs.

We are not TURK HATERS, we are Turkey (Turkiye) haters! For your information there are also Kibrislis what are Turkey haters as well as mainland Turks. The state of Turkey is a fascist state that violates en masse human rights against it's own citizens (it has the #1 record of violations at ECHR) and hell who invaded my own country, and still kept here like a snake? Who expelled me from my home, who stole my lands, who is currently trying to replace ALL the kibrislis with settlers?

You ask "what if we are wrong". I will not pretend I am an expert in economics,that's why I asked before what conclusion do we get from this discussion. Reading the input of others, it seems to me they are right, and that's good news for the liberation of my country through economic war. Inshallah Turkey eventually breaks in 5 pieces

Thank you for proving that doe to you hate of Turks or Turkey you and people like you are incapable of making sound judgement s, you believe those who use the English language well to manipulate and mislead you into thinking Turkey will break into 5 pieces and you will then force the solution of your dreams on the TCs, you will have a very long wait...time has proven me right as the doom and gloom merchants have been predicting the annihilation of Turkey for years and nothing has transpired.

Your only route towards obtaining what you desire is accepting your wrongs and cleaning the slate to take steps to gain the trust of TCs who will then start to take a step backwards on demanding measures they feel are necessary in the face of your current stance, once the trust ball starts rolling you will near enough achieve all you wish but as long as you maintain your current despot and lack of understanding mentality you will go nowhere fast.

[Pyrpolizer]

Pyro and what if you are wrong??? which I believe you are, GCs including Kikapu want to annihilate Turkey so do you think they will defend her economy or anything else for that matter....ıf you go back a few years we have all been told Turkeys economy is about to crumble yet she turned it around is doing better than even EU member states...yet you Turk haters ask us to take you seriously. As time passes the years prove exactly how wrong you would be economists are, stabbing in the dark amateurs.

We are not TURK HATERS, we are Turkey (Turkiye) haters! For your information there are also Kibrislis what are Turkey haters as well as mainland Turks. The state of Turkey is a fascist state that violates en masse human rights against it's own citizens (it has the #1 record of violations at ECHR) and hell who invaded my own country, and still kept here like a snake? Who expelled me from my home, who stole my lands, who is currently trying to replace ALL the kibrislis with settlers?

You ask "what if we are wrong". I will not pretend I am an expert in economics,that's why I asked before what conclusion do we get from this discussion. Reading the input of others, it seems to me they are right, and that's good news for the liberation of my country through economic war. Inshallah Turkey eventually breaks in 5 pieces

Thank you for proving that doe to you hate of Turks or Turkey you and people like you are incapable of making sound judgement s, you believe those who use the English language well to manipulate and mislead you into thinking Turkey will break into 5 pieces and you will then force the solution of your dreams on the TCs, you will have a very long wait...time has proven me right as the doom and gloom merchants have been predicting the annihilation of Turkey for years and nothing has transpired.

Your only route towards obtaining what you desire is accepting your wrongs and cleaning the slate to take steps to gain the trust of TCs who will then start to take a step backwards on demanding measures they feel are necessary in the face of your current stance, once the trust ball starts rolling you will near enough achieve all you wish but as long as you maintain your current despot and lack of understanding mentality you will go nowhere fast.

Here we go again..... LOL

Unfortunately dear VP, for us the Kypreos as not as simple as just helping the Kibrislis. The Kibrislis are under the local puppet regime, that gave them a fascist constitution that violates our own rights, there is no way to help the Kibrislis in an organised fashion without helping the settlers and the Turkish army and Turkiye as well because they are all bound together. ll we can do is some help at hospitals for the REAL kibrislis, some pensions, some IDS etc. Not very drastical but that's the best we can.

In other words the snake has kept everything together in a net, and we can't make a move without getting her poison.

[Pyrpolizer]

NB That's why I proposed in another topic that the REAL kibrislis should get organised and have a provisional government away from any bounds with the "trnc" and Turkey. That's the only way we the Kypreos could help the real Kibrislis in an organized manner.

But what did i get from you for an answer?
"the Turks are better than the GCs" !!!

Well VP make up your mind please.

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Pyro with the current GC stance the Turks will always be preferred to the GCs, the fact that i give you tips on how to win the TCs should not be taken a sign of confusion on my part its more to do with you not having a clue of what to do about winning TCs over.

[Hermes]

Pyro with the current GC stance the Turks will always be preferred to the GCs, the fact that i give you tips on how to win the TCs should not be taken a sign of confusion on my part its more to do with you not having a clue of what to do about winning TCs over.

It's not a question of "winning T/Cs over". T/Cs have two options: isolation, irrelevance and assimilation under Turkish military rule or union with the G/Cs in a federal state under EU law. It's pretty stark. But it's down to the T/Cs to choose.

[Pyrpolizer]

Pyro with the current GC stance the Turks will always be preferred to the GCs, the fact that i give you tips on how to win the TCs should not be taken a sign of confusion on my part its more to do with you not having a clue of what to do about winning TCs over.

I have heard your tips VP but they are impossible.It's like playing chess and sacrificing your Queen for a slightly better position. It never works.

[repulsewarrior]

Pyro with the current GC stance the Turks will always be preferred to the GCs, the fact that i give you tips on how to win the TCs should not be taken a sign of confusion on my part its more to do with you not having a clue of what to do about winning TCs over.

It's not a question of "winning T/Cs over". T/Cs have two options: isolation, irrelevance and assimilation under Turkish military rule or union with the G/Cs in a federal state under EU law. It's pretty stark. But it's down to the T/Cs to choose.

...we have said it before, Kibrisli are few compared to the numbers of the occupying forces; there must be ways to help them.

...come to think about it, cutbacks to the north are telling; when cutbacks come to Turkey, what will be?

afterall Cyprus is puny compared to Turkey's economy, but of immense strategic value the Military's playground, a place where good Muslims can gamble and drink; parasites what...

...signs of things to come, eh vp?

[Viewpoint]

Pyro with the current GC stance the Turks will always be preferred to the GCs, the fact that i give you tips on how to win the TCs should not be taken a sign of confusion on my part its more to do with you not having a clue of what to do about winning TCs over.

It's not a question of "winning T/Cs over". T/Cs have two options: isolation, irrelevance and assimilation under Turkish military rule or union with the G/Cs in a federal state under EU law. It's pretty stark. But it's down to the T/Cs to choose.

Put that way Ill take my chances with the first option. You need to start looking out of the box as it will cost you dearly as the years pass you by.

[Viewpoint]

Pyro with the current GC stance the Turks will always be preferred to the GCs, the fact that i give you tips on how to win the TCs should not be taken a sign of confusion on my part its more to do with you not having a clue of what to do about winning TCs over.

I have heard your tips VP but they are impossible.It's like playing chess and sacrificing your Queen for a slightly better position. It never works.

Thats why a solution will never happen GCs do not have the innovation of balls to take radical action that will deliver results.

[Hermes]

Pyro with the current GC stance the Turks will always be preferred to the GCs, the fact that i give you tips on how to win the TCs should not be taken a sign of confusion on my part its more to do with you not having a clue of what to do about winning TCs over.

It's not a question of "winning T/Cs over". T/Cs have two options: isolation, irrelevance and assimilation under Turkish military rule or union with the G/Cs in a federal state under EU law. It's pretty stark. But it's down to the T/Cs to choose.

Put that way Ill take my chances with the first option. You need to start looking out of the box as it will cost you dearly as the years pass you by.

Good choice. Like I said it's your call. Either way is fine by me.