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‘Tens of thousands’ of Turks could become ‘TRNC’ citizens

Postby CBBB » Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:16 am

By Simon Bahceli
Published on July 29, 2011

TENS OF thousands of mainland Turks could soon become new ‘citizens’ of the breakaway north, according to critics of an “immigration regulation” approved by the Turkish Cypriot ‘council of ministers’ yesterday.

Although details of the regulation were yet to be made public, the north’s ‘interior minister’ Nazim Cavusoglu said it included provisions for the provision of “white” and “green” identity cards for those who wish to stay on the island but were willing to forgo the right to vote, stand for election or work in the public sector.

Cavusoglu said he intended the new regulation, which still needs the approval of the ‘attorney general’, to “put an end to illegal immigration” and “allow for non-TRNC citizens to live like TRNC citizens”. He added that its implementation would begin with an amnesty to allow those who were living here unregistered to apply for the new white and green ID cards.

Reaction to ruling National Unity Party’s (UBP) ratification of their immigration bill came swiftly from left-wing opposition parties, who warned that its implementation would lead to the creation of “tens of thousands” of new citizens from Turkey.

“Around 25,000 [mainland Turks] are waiting for citizenship, and the issuing of white ID cards will lead to another 100,000 applications,” said Nicosia ‘deputy’ Ozdil Nami. He added: “After a certain amount of time, they too will become full citizens”, because the process of obtaining a white ID card had not been decoupled from the process of obtaining ‘citizenship’.

Speaking to the Cyprus Mail yesterday, Nami said he believed that the regulation had not been drawn up by the UBP administration, but by Ankara, and also complained that the regulation had been passed by “by decree”, rather than through discussion with opposition parties.

“The UBP might have highlighted that there was a problem with immigration, but the regulation was not designed by them”.

Immigration is already a contentious issue in the north, where regular influxes of people from Turkey since the division of the island in 1974 have led to what many see as its “Turkification”. Even according to ‘official’ figures, indigenous Turkish Cypriots make up less than half of the current de facto population.

Some, like Communal Democracy Party (TDP) leader Mehmet Cakici, yesterday described the regulation as “a deliberate strategy for bringing people here to change the demographic structure”.

“According to our calculations, around 30,000 people will be eligible for the white ID cards. Their families will also be eligible to join them here, meaning we will have 100,000 new immigrants on the way to becoming citizens”.

“The implementation of the regulation will mean the end of the Turkish Cypriot community,” he said.

Although details of the regulation remain unclear, it is believed that the “green ID card” will be offered to foreign business people investing over 500,000 dollars.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/trnc/tens-th ... s/20110729
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Re: ‘Tens of thousands’ of Turks could become ‘TRNC’ citizen

Postby kurupetos » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:07 am

The more the merrier.
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Re: ‘Tens of thousands’ of Turks could become ‘TRNC’ citizen

Postby humanist » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:33 am

I think at this stage of the political game. With TC's being suppressed by Turkey and the GC's looking for a solution the thing we can accept as GC's is citizenship of the settlers, with bands on further immigration for a decade or so. You'll still have population increases through the EU citizenship and freedom of movement.

in exchgange the TC side allow the Southern state control of territory south of Yialousa and Rizokarpaso Apostolos Andreas hence bring the balance of territory to 20% to 80%
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Re: ‘Tens of thousands’ of Turks could become ‘TRNC’ citizen

Postby Kikapu » Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:03 am

Speaking to the Cyprus Mail yesterday, Nami said he believed that the regulation had not been drawn up by the UBP administration, but by Ankara, and also complained that the regulation had been passed by “by decree”, rather than through discussion with opposition parties.


Some, like Communal Democracy Party (TDP) leader Mehmet Cakici, yesterday described the regulation as “a deliberate strategy for bringing people here to change the demographic structure”.


“The implementation of the regulation will mean the end of the Turkish Cypriot community,” he said.


That's why Erdogan was referred by a traitorous TC official as being the "HOST" and not a guest, when he arrived illegally last week to the north.

VP did say that he would prefer to have the TC community get fcuked by the Turks rather than the GCs.

While the GCs are offering the TC community Democracy, Human Rights, International Law and the EU Principles in a BBF as equal citizens, the Turks are offering to extinct the TC community.

Looks like VP (and others) is getting his wishes met, because the TC community is on the verge of becoming like the Native American Tribe, Kickapoo Indian Tribe (Kikapoo, Kikapu)!

There are no fools, than ignoramus fools !
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Re: ‘Tens of thousands’ of Turks could become ‘TRNC’ citizen

Postby humanist » Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:08 am

kikapu I think it is sad for the TC community but as GC wanting freedom for my Country, I much rather have all the settlers become citizens of the Republic of Cyprus and soon rather than the purity of the TC community. Especially when members of the TC community advocate strongly for pro Turkishness.
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:13 am

humanist wrote:kikapu I think it is sad for the TC community but as GC wanting freedom for my Country, I much rather have all the settlers become citizens of the Republic of Cyprus and soon rather than the purity of the TC community. Especially when members of the TC community advocate strongly for pro Turkishness.

:? :? :?

So what would change if ALL the settlers were to become citizens of the RoC, Humanist.? They would still be advocating strong pro Turkishness along with those TCs who already do so now, despite most of them holding citizenship of the RoC.
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Re: ‘Tens of thousands’ of Turks could become ‘TRNC’ citizen

Postby bill cobbett » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:47 pm

Right so let's get this right....

That old flag the UN's Booteeheim speaks out today to condemn alleged breaks in some dubious confidentiality agreement regarding the talks with Intransigent Turkey and says nothing, absolutely bugger all about the threats, this very real and contemptuous effort to rig the electorate in the Occupied Areas reported above.

Gori Booteeheim! ... you are a disgrace to your office and organisation and are also letting down CYs.
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Re: ‘Tens of thousands’ of Turks could become ‘TRNC’ citizen

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:41 am

They are trying to replace the real Kibrislis with settlers.In 10-15 years time we will have a settlers administration in the occupied.The Cyprob is entering a new phase already.:THAT OF INVASION-OCCUPATION-COLONIZATION.Nothing left to discuss anymore. And the RoC is SLEEPING at the moment. She will wake up of course when things become crystal clear. And then what? :?:
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Re: ‘Tens of thousands’ of Turks could become ‘TRNC’ citizen

Postby Kikapu » Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:51 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:They are trying to replace the real Kibrislis with settlers.In 10-15 years time we will have a settlers administration in the occupied.The Cyprob is entering a new phase already.:THAT OF INVASION-OCCUPATION-COLONIZATION.Nothing left to discuss anymore. And the RoC is SLEEPING at the moment. She will wake up of course when things become crystal clear. And then what? :?:


Then the RoC would be negotiating with Turkey officially, rather than through their puppets in the north. The TCs will lose any say so in what ever decision will be reached between the RoC and Turkey. As far as the GCs are concerned, it would not make any difference to them whether it's Turkey at the table or Turkey's puppets. The RoC may even have better chance negotiation with the Turks directly than their puppets. The RoC still have the trump card of being in the EU and Turkey wanting to be in the EU. The TCs will be ignored by the RoC/Turkey in what they want. They will have to accept what ever the RoC and Turkey decide between themselves. Sad but the truths for the TCs fate in the future, which is, no future at all for them..
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Re: ‘Tens of thousands’ of Turks could become ‘TRNC’ citizen

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:55 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:They are trying to replace the real Kibrislis with settlers.In 10-15 years time we will have a settlers administration in the occupied.The Cyprob is entering a new phase already.:THAT OF INVASION-OCCUPATION-COLONIZATION.Nothing left to discuss anymore. And the RoC is SLEEPING at the moment. She will wake up of course when things become crystal clear. And then what? :?:


Then the RoC would be negotiating with Turkey officially, rather than through their puppets in the north. The TCs will lose any say so in what ever decision will be reached between the RoC and Turkey. As far as the GCs are concerned, it would not make any difference to them whether it's Turkey at the table or Turkey's puppets. The RoC may even have better chance negotiation with the Turks directly than their puppets. The RoC still have the trump card of being in the EU and Turkey wanting to be in the EU. The TCs will be ignored by the RoC/Turkey in what they want. They will have to accept what ever the RoC and Turkey decide between themselves. Sad but the truths for the TCs fate in the future, which is, no future at all for them..


Sad it is my friend. You are right the RoC will be negotiating directly with Turkey. However negotiate for what???
To re-unite with the remnants of Kibrislis plus a sea of trashy settlers? To re-unite with people the vast majority of whom we can't understand, who have totally different ethics than ours? Damn not even the real Kibrislis can get along well with the settlers how could the Kypreos ever manage with them? Isn't it also sad that the REAL kibrislis will be lost for ever?
I would personally not be interested for a BBF anymore. It would clearly be a matter of illegal colonisation from there on whatever that would mean in terms of solving the Cyprus Problem. :cry:
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