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Re: ‘Tens of thousands’ of Turks could become ‘TRNC’ citizen

Postby Kikapu » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:26 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Hold on you guys, you ask disguised questions then you expect clear answers, if your question is how much power will the TCs have in a a population of over 1 million, I would say its very much down to your viewpoint as I see the 1 million as my people living with me in the north so I would say my say is more powerful than ever in fact I would be demanding a unitary state so that you will become a minority in your own country. Does that answer your question? if there anything else let me know. Plus these cliches are still there because they have not been answered to the satisfaction of those concerned, all you do is try to dismiss them.


That is ONLY from a point of view from a Turk wannabe like yourself since you really do not have any connection to Cyprus in your first 30 years as a foreign born individual, other than your parents who happened to be Cypriots, because most TCs do not see the Turks as their own people and neither do the Turks see the TCs as being their own people, or else there wouldn't be the issues of "Green & White Cards) being proposed for the settlers right now, as TCs know, that they don't want to lose everything to the Turks, like complete loss of voting power and their cushy public sector jobs. When the settlers take over the north officially, the TCs will not have any say so at all, unless you want to become a Turk, and even then, you will never be accepted as a Turks, just as the Kurds are not accepted as Turks, despite all the lip service given by Erdogan.
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Re: ‘Tens of thousands’ of Turks could become ‘TRNC’ citizen

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:52 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Hold on you guys, you ask disguised questions then you expect clear answers, if your question is how much power will the TCs have in a a population of over 1 million, I would say its very much down to your viewpoint as I see the 1 million as my people living with me in the north so I would say my say is more powerful than ever in fact I would be demanding a unitary state so that you will become a minority in your own country. Does that answer your question? if there anything else let me know. Plus these cliches are still there because they have not been answered to the satisfaction of those concerned, all you do is try to dismiss them.


What disguised questions VP??
First of all you totally dismissed the figures of the 2006 census that only shows a population including the settlers of 265K.A place can afford a very specific number of population according to it's resources and how well the economy goes.Even the number of 265K came to that because there still were stolen Kypreos properties to deliver. We know from that 265K only 80K are the real Kibrislis perhaps the numbers could go up to 120K because of mixed marriages.If this population becomes say 350K then the standard of living will drop so much that the Kibrislis will have to leave.If the settlers breed 10 children each then again the standard of living will drop below that of Turkey that those children will leave also.

The point is the way things develop and all this desperate effort by the Eroglu administration to give "citizenship" to as many settlers as the can will with mathematical accuracy lead to extinction of the real Kibrislis. Within 15 years maximum the occupied will have settlers holding most political positions.

The ONLY solution that the RoC would then accept is a unitary state with a significant number of settlers leaving the place and the rest living on a minority status.
Don't forget that the RoC CAN increase it's own population by at least 2 times without any negative effects. The fact is they have already done so. It's called EU citizens. In fact looking around I would bet the RoC population at the moment should be at least 1.2 million.
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Re: ‘Tens of thousands’ of Turks could become ‘TRNC’ citizen

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:09 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Hold on you guys, you ask disguised questions then you expect clear answers, if your question is how much power will the TCs have in a a population of over 1 million, I would say its very much down to your viewpoint as I see the 1 million as my people living with me in the north so I would say my say is more powerful than ever in fact I would be demanding a unitary state so that you will become a minority in your own country. Does that answer your question? if there anything else let me know. Plus these cliches are still there because they have not been answered to the satisfaction of those concerned, all you do is try to dismiss them.


That is ONLY from a point of view from a Turk wannabe like yourself since you really do not have any connection to Cyprus in your first 30 years as a foreign born individual, other than your parents who happened to be Cypriots, because most TCs do not see the Turks as their own people and neither do the Turks see the TCs as being their own people, or else there wouldn't be the issues of "Green & White Cards) being proposed for the settlers right now, as TCs know, that they don't want to lose everything to the Turks, like complete loss of voting power and their cushy public sector jobs. When the settlers take over the north officially, the TCs will not have any say so at all, unless you want to become a Turk, and even then, you will never be accepted as a Turks, just as the Kurds are not accepted as Turks, despite all the lip service given by Erdogan.


1.000.000+++++red white green blue black all numbers that will in time bring about a unitary state as you say with us as the majority......say what you wish the danger is staring you in the face, give it another 37 years and you will be begging us for division.
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Re: ‘Tens of thousands’ of Turks could become ‘TRNC’ citizen

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:17 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Hold on you guys, you ask disguised questions then you expect clear answers, if your question is how much power will the TCs have in a a population of over 1 million, I would say its very much down to your viewpoint as I see the 1 million as my people living with me in the north so I would say my say is more powerful than ever in fact I would be demanding a unitary state so that you will become a minority in your own country. Does that answer your question? if there anything else let me know. Plus these cliches are still there because they have not been answered to the satisfaction of those concerned, all you do is try to dismiss them.


What disguised questions VP??
First of all you totally dismissed the figures of the 2006 census that only shows a population including the settlers of 265K.A place can afford a very specific number of population according to it's resources and how well the economy goes.Even the number of 265K came to that because there still were stolen Kypreos properties to deliver. We know from that 265K only 80K are the real Kibrislis perhaps the numbers could go up to 120K because of mixed marriages.If this population becomes say 350K then the standard of living will drop so much that the Kibrislis will have to leave.If the settlers breed 10 children each then again the standard of living will drop below that of Turkey that those children will leave also.

The point is the way things develop and all this desperate effort by the Eroglu administration to give "citizenship" to as many settlers as the can will with mathematical accuracy lead to extinction of the real Kibrislis. Within 15 years maximum the occupied will have settlers holding most political positions.

The ONLY solution that the RoC would then accept is a unitary state with a significant number of settlers leaving the place and the rest living on a minority status.
Don't forget that the RoC CAN increase it's own population by at least 2 times without any negative effects. The fact is they have already done so. It's called EU citizens. In fact looking around I would bet the RoC population at the moment should be at least 1.2 million.



Calculate all you wish you cannot compete with 70 million they can easily swamp you within a very short period of time, the numbers right now in the north are far greater than the official numbers and are increasing faster than Gcs could ever reproduce. If you want to give voting rights to other EU members then isnt that defeating your goal of controlling the whole island Russians and Brits will take all your jobs and make your decision for you, you bloody hypocrites.
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Re: ‘Tens of thousands’ of Turks could become ‘TRNC’ citizen

Postby Kikapu » Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:02 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Hold on you guys, you ask disguised questions then you expect clear answers, if your question is how much power will the TCs have in a a population of over 1 million, I would say its very much down to your viewpoint as I see the 1 million as my people living with me in the north so I would say my say is more powerful than ever in fact I would be demanding a unitary state so that you will become a minority in your own country. Does that answer your question? if there anything else let me know. Plus these cliches are still there because they have not been answered to the satisfaction of those concerned, all you do is try to dismiss them.


That is ONLY from a point of view from a Turk wannabe like yourself since you really do not have any connection to Cyprus in your first 30 years as a foreign born individual, other than your parents who happened to be Cypriots, because most TCs do not see the Turks as their own people and neither do the Turks see the TCs as being their own people, or else there wouldn't be the issues of "Green & White Cards) being proposed for the settlers right now, as TCs know, that they don't want to lose everything to the Turks, like complete loss of voting power and their cushy public sector jobs. When the settlers take over the north officially, the TCs will not have any say so at all, unless you want to become a Turk, and even then, you will never be accepted as a Turks, just as the Kurds are not accepted as Turks, despite all the lip service given by Erdogan.


1.000.000+++++red white green blue black all numbers that will in time bring about a unitary state as you say with us as the majority......say what you wish the danger is staring you in the face, give it another 37 years and you will be begging us for division.


You are being delirious again. There will ONLY be 20% of new,old TCs allowed to stay in Cyprus for a Unitary state. The rest will need to return back to their motherland or else Turkey will NOT get into the EU. The RoC holds the trump card, for they being in the EU. :wink:
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Re: ‘Tens of thousands’ of Turks could become ‘TRNC’ citizen

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:33 pm

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Re: ‘Tens of thousands’ of Turks could become ‘TRNC’ citizen

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:41 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Hold on you guys, you ask disguised questions then you expect clear answers, if your question is how much power will the TCs have in a a population of over 1 million, I would say its very much down to your viewpoint as I see the 1 million as my people living with me in the north so I would say my say is more powerful than ever in fact I would be demanding a unitary state so that you will become a minority in your own country. Does that answer your question? if there anything else let me know. Plus these cliches are still there because they have not been answered to the satisfaction of those concerned, all you do is try to dismiss them.


What disguised questions VP??
First of all you totally dismissed the figures of the 2006 census that only shows a population including the settlers of 265K.A place can afford a very specific number of population according to it's resources and how well the economy goes.Even the number of 265K came to that because there still were stolen Kypreos properties to deliver. We know from that 265K only 80K are the real Kibrislis perhaps the numbers could go up to 120K because of mixed marriages.If this population becomes say 350K then the standard of living will drop so much that the Kibrislis will have to leave.If the settlers breed 10 children each then again the standard of living will drop below that of Turkey that those children will leave also.

The point is the way things develop and all this desperate effort by the Eroglu administration to give "citizenship" to as many settlers as the can will with mathematical accuracy lead to extinction of the real Kibrislis. Within 15 years maximum the occupied will have settlers holding most political positions.

The ONLY solution that the RoC would then accept is a unitary state with a significant number of settlers leaving the place and the rest living on a minority status.
Don't forget that the RoC CAN increase it's own population by at least 2 times without any negative effects. The fact is they have already done so. It's called EU citizens. In fact looking around I would bet the RoC population at the moment should be at least 1.2 million.



Calculate all you wish you cannot compete with 70 million they can easily swamp you within a very short period of time, the numbers right now in the north are far greater than the official numbers and are increasing faster than Gcs could ever reproduce. If you want to give voting rights to other EU members then isnt that defeating your goal of controlling the whole island Russians and Brits will take all your jobs and make your decision for you, you bloody hypocrites.


No need to get fanatic about this my dear :lol: :lol:
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Re: ‘Tens of thousands’ of Turks could become ‘TRNC’ citizen

Postby bill cobbett » Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:44 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Hold on you guys, you ask disguised questions then you expect clear answers, if your question is how much power will the TCs have in a a population of over 1 million, I would say its very much down to your viewpoint as I see the 1 million as my people living with me in the north so I would say my say is more powerful than ever in fact I would be demanding a unitary state so that you will become a minority in your own country. Does that answer your question? if there anything else let me know. Plus these cliches are still there because they have not been answered to the satisfaction of those concerned, all you do is try to dismiss them.


That is ONLY from a point of view from a Turk wannabe like yourself since you really do not have any connection to Cyprus in your first 30 years as a foreign born individual, other than your parents who happened to be Cypriots, because most TCs do not see the Turks as their own people and neither do the Turks see the TCs as being their own people, or else there wouldn't be the issues of "Green & White Cards) being proposed for the settlers right now, as TCs know, that they don't want to lose everything to the Turks, like complete loss of voting power and their cushy public sector jobs. When the settlers take over the north officially, the TCs will not have any say so at all, unless you want to become a Turk, and even then, you will never be accepted as a Turks, just as the Kurds are not accepted as Turks, despite all the lip service given by Erdogan.


1.000.000+++++red white green blue black all numbers that will in time bring about a unitary state as you say with us as the majority......say what you wish the danger is staring you in the face, give it another 37 years and you will be begging us for division.


You are being delirious again. There will ONLY be 20% of new,old TCs allowed to stay in Cyprus for a Unitary state. The rest will need to return back to their motherland or else Turkey will NOT get into the EU. The RoC holds the trump card, for they being in the EU. :wink:


There is another very important element in this return of Illegal Settlers, who are deemed to be Secondary Occupants, who have no connection to CY and that is that they will have nowhere to stay in a human rights-based BBF cos the Legitimate Owners will have the first say as to whether they return, sell or let out their properties... and as long as the Illegal Settlers and their friends the CarpetBaggers and others with claims to Home are treated humanely they can be evicted, if Property Owners wish it.
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