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[Get Real!]

Yes I am sure you "heard" me loud enough to realise the desperation... And sure I realised it is a scam and I am still a member after so many months...

6 months is the average time it takes when it strikes you that it’s not going anywhere and you’ve kissed your time and money goodbye!

I respect your opinion but that is as far as it goes. You can choose to believe or understand things however you like.

He’s a wealthy finance expert so you should listen to him because he’s already got what you’re still dreaming of and probably won’t be getting… at least not with WV!

[Get Real!]

It is not a scam. And most importantly, it is not a pyramid scheme.
Rumours are spread about pretty much anything that seems "too good to be true" to the ordinary people. It doesn't mean that if you get involved you become a millionaire, it depends on a matter of factors but the point is that yes it is legal in 22 countries at the moment and yes you can make money out of it.
So no, it is not a scam.

You can contact me if you want more information about this. I am a representative for over half a year now.

You can send me a private message here where we can exchange emails/phone numbers etc.

It fits the pyramid scheme definition PERFECTLY!

“A pyramid scheme is a non-sustainable business model that involves promising participants payment or services, primarily for enrolling other people into the scheme, rather than supplying any real investment or sale of products or services to the public”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme

So stop lying and quit conning people loser!

Actually, it does not fit that description. You do not get any money by enrolling people. You only get money if you sell the product/service.

You don’t even know the rules of what you joined!

Ask them about the "30/30" and the "90/90", etc!

It's a pyramid mate!

[Get Real!]

So if I created a blogspot and wrote my story you would quote it here? Just as you think that I am talking about a scam, you might as well think that he is just a member who did not succeed in it and just wishes to demote it for anyone else who might wish to try it out. It does not work for everyone, does not mean it does not work for ANYONE.

He reached the "30/30" level and was actually making a little money ($500 p/m) yet abandoned it... will you ever get there?

[supporttheunderdog]

So if I created a blogspot and wrote my story you would quote it here? Just as you think that I am talking about a scam, you might as well think that he is just a member who did not succeed in it and just wishes to demote it for anyone else who might wish to try it out. It does not work for everyone, does not mean it does not work for ANYONE.

He reached the "30/30" level and was actually making a little money ($500 p/m) yet abandoned it... will you ever get there?

according to worldventures own figures 73.7% of those that joined WorldVentures never made a dime.

[Get Real!]

So if I created a blogspot and wrote my story you would quote it here? Just as you think that I am talking about a scam, you might as well think that he is just a member who did not succeed in it and just wishes to demote it for anyone else who might wish to try it out. It does not work for everyone, does not mean it does not work for ANYONE.

He reached the "30/30" level and was actually making a little money ($500 p/m) yet abandoned it... will you ever get there?

according to worldventures own figures 73.7% of those that joined WorldVentures never made a dime.

That's because it's almost impossible to have 30 people under you that remain active and do not break the chain. The odds are against you from the onset but people don't really understand the details and join up because they have holiday pictures and "free BMW" pictures flashed in front of them at presentations so they go in a trance!

[supporttheunderdog]

very true - and in any event sooner or later there will be fewer buyers than sellers,,,,

Anyway blindscout, how much are you making? Are you 30/30 or 90/90 or are you paid to post propaganda for worldventures?

[blindscout]

There is a reason WV says that only 1 in 4 makes money out of the company (~75%). Because they have nothing to hide - transparency. From the other 3 members, 1 is either just using the service/product and chooses to pay the monthly fee and exploit its advantages (just as we do for services like Nova, Cytavision etc) and the other 2 just did not work the system correctly or were just unlucky. If this thing worked for everyone it simply wouldn't work

That is why I do not believe that this is for everyone, but it would be wrong to say that NO ONE should do it. And some people, like me are willing to risk the chance to be one of the successful ones (doesn't mean I have to buy a Ferrari out of this idea in order to be successful).

If I tell you that you have a 25% chance to win some money of out this business, you always look at the 75% that you won't and pull away.
Well why do people play the lottery then? It is slightly different but they only reason people choose to play the lottery is because they actually don't have to do anything and could easily win a lot of money. Nothing wrong with that.
In WV you have to work quite hard (unless you are more lucky like some people who make a lot of money just by recruiting several members) in order to accomplish the "Get Rich Quick Scheme" that's what makes it more believable. If it was easy, everyone would do it.

So don't say it does not work. Just say it might be hard (may even be easy) to get it work and then everyone can make their own choice whether to invest their money or not in this idea.

[blindscout]

It is not a scam. And most importantly, it is not a pyramid scheme.
Rumours are spread about pretty much anything that seems "too good to be true" to the ordinary people. It doesn't mean that if you get involved you become a millionaire, it depends on a matter of factors but the point is that yes it is legal in 22 countries at the moment and yes you can make money out of it.
So no, it is not a scam.

You can contact me if you want more information about this. I am a representative for over half a year now.

You can send me a private message here where we can exchange emails/phone numbers etc.

It fits the pyramid scheme definition PERFECTLY!

“A pyramid scheme is a non-sustainable business model that involves promising participants payment or services, primarily for enrolling other people into the scheme, rather than supplying any real investment or sale of products or services to the public”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme

So stop lying and quit conning people loser!

Actually, it does not fit that description. You do not get any money by enrolling people. You only get money if you sell the product/service.

You don’t even know the rules of what you joined!

Ask them about the "30/30" and the "90/90", etc!

It's a pyramid mate!

Actually I am pretty confident that I know it better than you.
Yes of course I know about the "30/30" etc. But the 30/30 is sales, not people.
If you want proof you can see it here:

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http://gs1.wpc.edgecastcdn.net/80289E/media/1/PDF/unitedstates_us/detailedcompplan_us.pdf

It is pointless to argue about something you are unsure of Stop trying to close your mind further.
At least comprehend and accept that it works, but just choose not to do try and make it work for you. That is totally fine. But saying it does not work and not knowing what you are talking about doesn't really get you far in any matter (not just WV).

[Maximus]

according to worldventures own figures 73.7% of those that joined WorldVentures never made a dime.

Like in any business, the majority go bust in a relatively short period of time and only a few are competitive enough to succeed.

What is bob the affiliate marketers cost to acquire a client and how much does world ventures pay for each referral?

[Maximus]

I know of an old school friend who tried to introduce me to world ventures some years ago both as a paying customer and to also join his down-line. I dont know whether he is still active with it or not. At the time, I was involved in another multi-level network marketing program with a UK based Utilities company and I was yet to make that work so I had no interest in joining another. This company remunerated its affiliate marketers by way of a down-line which resembled a pyramid type scheme and chose not to undertake any of the advertising itself, the 'distributors' will take care of all of that. The company is public, registered on the London stock exchange.

even in the company which I work for, middle management is remunerated based upon employee performance, senior management is paid based on middle managements performance, top tier management is paid based upon the performance of their entire down-line. Just because a company chooses to remunerate based on a pyramid type structure does not make it a scam.

what is the cost to get involved? what value can you add to the product to make sales? how competitive is the product/service relative to the competition? how much does it cost to acquire a customer? what is the cost to recruit someone to join your down-line? what is the cost to keep them working? what is the price paid by the company in return for doing this?