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[Schnauzer]

What a shame! Seems like some people like giving a kick to those who have fallen by the way-side. What future does humanity have. At least the youngsters might see what dabbling with these substances can do. As far as I am concerned, tobacco and alcohol abusers are no better. How many of those can kick the habit once the rot has set in.

RIP Amy.

Unfortunately the 'youngsters' (and some 'oldsters') are quite unable to appreciate the damage that drug addiction may lead to.

That "They 'MIGHT' see what dabbling with these substances can do" is precisely the greatest issue in following, hallowing and emulating the decadent lifestyles of the so called 'Celebrities' who influence them so.

As to 'Kicking those who fall by the wayside', ALL the hand wringing and tears of sorrow can only consolidate support for the evils of drug abuse (not use) and the older generation is failing the younger one by NOT instructing them correctly.

As to myself, in my profession I have uplifted the hopes of many in dire need, Amy Winehouse WAS (in my opinion) a disgraceful representation of what the youth of a nation should be and I make no apology for highlighting my views on the subject.

Sad enough it is that the youth (and others) of our society suffer the cudgelling of their brains on a daily basis (courtesy of our leaders) but pray, let us not be led into the domain of the 'Zombie' by mourning the passing of such a wretch as THIS disreputable being seemingly 'Morphed' into.

[denizaksulu]

What a shame! Seems like some people like giving a kick to those who have fallen by the way-side. What future does humanity have. At least the youngsters might see what dabbling with these substances can do. As far as I am concerned, tobacco and alcohol abusers are no better. How many of those can kick the habit once the rot has set in.

RIP Amy.

Unfortunately the 'youngsters' (and some 'oldsters') are quite unable to appreciate the damage that drug addiction may lead to.

That "They 'MIGHT' see what dabbling with these substances can do" is precisely the greatest issue in following, hallowing and emulating the decadent lifestyles of the so called 'Celebrities' who influence them so.

As to 'Kicking those who fall by the wayside', ALL the hand wringing and tears of sorrow can only consolidate support for
the evils of drug abuse (not use) and the older generation is failing the younger one by NOT instructing them correctly.

As to myself, in my profession I have uplifted the hopes of many in dire need, Amy Winehouse WAS (in my opinion) a disgraceful representation of what the youth of a nation should be and I make no apology for highlighting my views on the subject.

Sad enough it is that the youth (and others) of our society suffer the cudgelling of their brains on a daily basis (courtesy of our leaders) but pray, let us not be led into the domain of the 'Zombie' by mourning the passing of such a wretch as THIS disreputable being seemingly 'Morphed' into.

Thank god for free speech. We both have expressed our opinions. I wish you did not wink, otherwise I would have taken you seriously.

[Jerry]

The death of any person at such a young age is sad, I have sympathy for her family. Amy Winehouse only came out of The Priory clinic a few weeks ago. She had opportunities to kick her habits that are not available to others. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-13631381

A very close relative was a heroin addict for four years, he was in trouble with the law and was due to be remanded in custody (prison is the worst place to send an addict). His solicitor persuaded the magistrate to release him on condition that he lived with myself and my wife and reported to the police. We lived miles from the nearest source of supply and he had to walk three miles to get to public transport. He was stuck with us so was "cold turkey" for three weeks, my wife sat up with her brother night after night and gradually he improved. He lived with us for three months and gave me an insight into heroin addiction, apparently once hooked he had to get the next "fix" to avoid the pain of withdrawal. When he decided it was time to leave us we tried in vain to persuade him to move away from his old haunts. Within a few months he was back on the stuff but somehow managed to kick the habit again without our help. He has been clean now and held a proper job for several years.

He had the will to give it up, he knew it would kill him in time, he did it without expensive professional help. Draw your own conclusions.

[cyprusgrump]

The death of any person at such a young age is sad, I have sympathy for her family. Amy Winehouse only came out of The Priory clinic a few weeks ago. She had opportunities to kick her habits that are not available to others. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-13631381

A very close relative was a heroin addict for four years, he was in trouble with the law and was due to be remanded in custody (prison is the worst place to send an addict). His solicitor persuaded the magistrate to release him on condition that he lived with myself and my wife and reported to the police. We lived miles from the nearest source of supply and he had to walk three miles to get to public transport. He was stuck with us so was "cold turkey" for three weeks, my wife sat up with her brother night after night and gradually he improved. He lived with us for three months and gave me an insight into heroin addiction, apparently once hooked he had to get the next "fix" to avoid the pain of withdrawal. When he decided it was time to leave us we tried in vain to persuade him to move away from his old haunts. Within a few months he was back on the stuff but somehow managed to kick the habit again without our help. He has been clean now and held a proper job for several years.

He had the will to give it up, he knew it would kill him in time, he did it without expensive professional help. Draw your own conclusions.

Quite so...

[fig head]

I so wanted to tell a story about drug addiction but no use, we all know if u didnt quit u will end up either dead or in jail... and believe me it doesnt look pretty finding ur dead body hanging out of ur car and a needle standing out of ur arm.. people who take drugs not only sentence them self to unhappy life/death but also to a great limit they are effecting the ones who truly loves them yet couldnt do anything but watch them die....

the victim here is those left behind to moorn their dead.


if there must be a sympthy it goes to those ones who lost their loved oned to drugs not to the idiots who killed them self.

[cyprusgrump]

I so wanted to tell a story about drug addiction but no use, we all know if u didnt quit u will end up either dead or in jail... and believe me it doesnt look pretty finding ur dead body hanging out of ur car and a needle standing out of ur arm.. people who take drugs not only sentence them self to unhappy life/death but also to a great limit they are effecting the ones who truly loves them yet couldnt do anything but watch them die....

the victim here is those left behind to moorn their dead.


if there must be a sympthy it goes to those ones who lost their loved oned to drugs not to the idiots who killed them self.

Figgy nails it again!

[Schnauzer]

[/quote]

Thank god for free speech. We both have expressed our opinions. I wish you did not wink, otherwise I would have taken you seriously.[/quote]


Out of deference to he who finds my a source denoting a lack of seriousness, I will forego the pleasure of it's use at the end of this response.

Perhaps one could view my habitual use of it as an addiction but surely not one which would kill me .

One cannot broach the subject of drug addiction without condemning it as an evil, were it not, it would be regarded as acceptable in society.

The danger IS, that it is becoming acceptable to those who consider the likes of Amy Winehouse as a 'Role Model' and are now (upon her demise) ready to expound her virtues rather than condemn her vices.

In fact, Amy Winehouse has been depicted as 'An Icon' of the music scene (general in the press) which in itself is an absolute insult to the status of 'Icon' since such a title is endowed upon those who contribute or represent purity and devotion to society.

In actual fact, Amy Winehouse (together with ALL her ilk) would be more accurately described as 'Iconoclasts' since they are representatives of every UN-acceptable form of decency in a once respectable society, indeed, at the rate of decline (since the sixties) it will not be long before UK society will have reached the depths of depravity currently enjoyed in the USA. (imho).

Furthermore, the fact that even the news reporters (and the majority of readers) either cannot or choose not to recognise the difference between an 'Icon' and an 'Iconoclast', does not bode too well for the future of ANY nation the youth of which can follow the disgusting lifestyle choices of Amy Winehouse.

A little ferocious perhaps BUT, never were the youth of nations less able to see a brightness in their futures than those unfortunates of today's societies, unless they wake up from their self inflicted stupors.

[supporttheunderdog]

Thank god for free speech. We both have expressed our opinions. I wish you did not wink, otherwise I would have taken you seriously.

Out of deference to he who finds my a source denoting a lack of seriousness, I will forego the pleasure of it's use at the end of this response.

Perhaps one could view my habitual use of it as an addiction but surely not one which would kill me .

One cannot broach the subject of drug addiction without condemning it as an evil, were it not, it would be regarded as acceptable in society.

The danger IS, that it is becoming acceptable to those who consider the likes of Amy Winehouse as a 'Role Model' and are now (upon her demise) ready to expound her virtues rather than condemn her vices.

In fact, Amy Winehouse has been depicted as 'An Icon' of the music scene (general in the press) which in itself is an absolute insult to the status of 'Icon' since such a title is endowed upon those who contribute or represent purity and devotion to society.

In actual fact, Amy Winehouse (together with ALL her ilk) would be more accurately described as 'Iconoclasts' since they are representatives of every UN-acceptable form of decency in a once respectable society, indeed, at the rate of decline (since the sixties) it will not be long before UK society will have reached the depths of depravity currently enjoyed in the USA. (imho).

Furthermore, the fact that even the news reporters (and the majority of readers) either cannot or choose not to recognise the difference between an 'Icon' and an 'Iconoclast', does not bode too well for the future of ANY nation the youth of which can follow the disgusting lifestyle choices of Amy Winehouse.

A little ferocious perhaps BUT, never were the youth of nations less able to see a brightness in their futures than those unfortunates of today's societies, unless they wake up from their self inflicted stupors.

Not ferocious atall and one reason why there is more than grain of Truth about good old blighty: If v rotting one's brains with booze and drugs (to the point of premature death) makes one an Icon then there are hundreds and thousands in the UK (and no doubt some in Cyprus too).

However as a singer, was Amy Wino really that great?
She had a good voice and powerful delivery, but then I have heard other less well known singers who I think were as good, for example Karen who used to sing in Limassol at the Roadhouse (rip) and Pizza Express amongst other places. her acapella gospel style rendition of "Silent night" was as powerful as Mahalia Jackson's rendition of the Lord's Prayer at the Newport 1958 Jazz Festival.

[denizaksulu]

RIP Amy.