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[bill cobbett]

Wish the thugs in the pay of the TA would pick on someone their own size...

[DTA]

https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150252294244886

An absolute joke of a thread title, you have an agenda and can not be taken seriously.

in london they throw disabled protesters out of their wheelchair, they kill a newspaper seller and attack women with battons, yet you have never seen such police violence .... you are a joker with an agenda. there is enough not right with the TRNC without you exagerations qnd making thing up.... so what is the point?

[Hermes]

in london they throw disabled protesters out of their wheelchair, they kill a newspaper seller and attack women with battons, yet you have never seen such police violence .... you are a joker with an agenda. there is enough not right with the TRNC without you exagerations qnd making thing up.... so what is the point?

What a load of rubbish! In London there was outrage and a public enquiry was held into the policeman who struck a paper seller at a demonstration. The policeman in question was arrested and charged with manslaughter. Similarly, UK citizens have redress through the legal system and the Police Complaints Commission if they feel the police have exceeded their powers. It's a system that attempts to ensure that the police and the authorities are held accountable.

In the "TRNC" no such redress exists for their 'citizens'. It is frankly ludicrous that you are even equating a thuggish and repressive police state like the "TRNC" with the UK which has over centuries attempted to enshrine its people's rights in law.

No state is perfect. Not even the UK. But you can measure a state by the protection it tries to give its citizens. No such protection is evident in the "TRNC".

[DTA]

in london they throw disabled protesters out of their wheelchair, they kill a newspaper seller and attack women with battons, yet you have never seen such police violence .... you are a joker with an agenda. there is enough not right with the TRNC without you exagerations qnd making thing up.... so what is the point?

What a load of rubbish! In London there was outrage and a public enquiry was held into the policeman who struck a paper seller at a demonstration. The policeman in question was arrested and charged with manslaughter. Similarly, UK citizens have redress through the legal system and the Police Complaints Commission if they feel the police have exceeded their powers. It's a system that attempts to ensure that the police and the authorities are held accountable.

In the "TRNC" no such redress exists for their 'citizens'. It is frankly ludicrous that you are even equating a thuggish and repressive police state like the "TRNC" with the UK which has over centuries attempted to enshrine its people's rights in law.

No state is perfect. Not even the UK. But you can measure a state by the protection it tries to give its citizens. No such protection is evident in the "TRNC".

that is poor by you, what happend to the police officer that killed the newspaper seller? are they in prison.... no

how bout those that threw the disabled student out of his wheel chair- are they in prison......um no!

ok how about those that attacked women.... surely they should be in prison .......um....... no!

So whats yor point again?

[DTA]

in case you need any further information:

The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) yesterday published three reports. One was into the death of Ian Tomlinson, in April 2009, a second looked at the police media handling of the case, while the third was a particularly critical one on the police evidence to pathologists. The reports are detailed. The main one is a thorough piece of work, running to 98 pages. But it is not thorough enough.

Here's why. The Guardian reported yesterday that, two days after Mr Tomlinson's death , three Metropolitan police officers reported to their superiors that they had seen a colleague push Mr Tomlinson to the ground. The Met police passed the officers' information to the City of London force, which polices the Square Mile where Mr Tomlinson died and which was responsible for the initial 2009 investigation.

Yet the City police do not appear to have told the IPCC, or the pathologist who was due to examine Mr Tomlinson, or the coroner or, not least, Mr Tomlinson's family any of this. All this happened four days before the Guardian released video footage of the officer striking Mr Tomlinson. It was only then that the Tomlinson investigation went up a gear, setting in train a sequence of events that produced last week's unlawful killing inquest verdict, a new referral to the director of public prosecutions and, yesterday, the release of the IPCC report.

It is, of course, possible that justice will eventually be done to Mr Tomlinson in spite of the initial failures of response. Yet the failure to act promptly on the three officers' evidence prompts serious questions for the City force and the IPCC. The death of any citizen during a police public order operation is a matter of the highest seriousness. Yet the response was slow and not proportionate to the potential and, as it later turned out, the actual importance of the case. Why did the City force not raise its game as soon as the three Met officers' reports were known? Why did the IPCC not start its investigation immediately as it learned of Mr Tomlinson's death on 1 April, or on 3 April when it learned that members of the public saw the pushing incident, or on 5 April when the Observer published the first photographs of the police assault? Why, if the IPCC now knew about the three police witnesses when it finally took over the investigation on 8 April, has it released a report more than two years later which fails to acknowledge their evidence at all?

The IPCC's job is to provide a professional, independent and accountable check on police actions. It does its best with limited resources. But it did not respond effectively enough when the Tomlinson case occurred. Now, two years on, it still seems unable to see the wood for the trees or to get to the heart of this crucial case.

[humanist]

Poor TC's in the occupied area of Cyprus are well and trully shat upon by their protector

[supporttheunderdog]

What I saw on the videos were a bunch unformed thugs piling into a noisy but non-violent crowd with fists swinging.

I condemn them along with the violent acts by Police men that lead to the death of Ian Tomlinson, and the MMAD attack on Students in Nicosia, and other acts of police violence.

The likely difference is that the so called TNRC Police thugs may well have had orders to beat up the crowd. The Killers of Tomlinson and the attackers of the students did not.

In the so-called TRNC Turkish military occupied zone is there any redress at all, for this. Indeed they probably got congratulted by their bosses.

[humanist]

I feel sorry for the TC community in the occupied area because the dictatorship is flexing muscle. Making it obvious that Turkey is not there to protect TC's but to occupy Cyprus. Furthermore Eroglu is misrepresenting the TC's only there to fulfil Erdogans ocupation intentions.

[Viewpoint]

I feel sorry for the TC community in the occupied area because the dictatorship is flexing muscle. Making it obvious that Turkey is not there to protect TC's but to occupy Cyprus. Furthermore Eroglu is misrepresenting the TC's only there to fulfil Erdogans ocupation intentions.

Did you not have fights with the GC police? we feel sorry for you GCs as well.

[Hermes]

that is poor by you, what happend to the police officer that killed the newspaper seller? are they in prison.... no

how bout those that threw the disabled student out of his wheel chair- are they in prison......um no!

So whats yor point again?

Don't be such an ass. In the UK nobody is sent to prison without facing a trial and conviction. The police officer who allegedly struck the newspaper seller who subsequently died is facing a trial for manslaughter in October. So what is your point?

Also in the UK, police are not sent to prison on the basis of people making complaints against them at demonstrations. There was an IPCC investigation into a complaint made by a disabled man who claimed he was assaulted at a demonstration. The investigation found there to be no grounds for his complaint.

In the "TRNC" protesters are physically attacked by state thugs for even trying to demonstrate and have no redress in law. Who will investigate their complaints? There is no-one because the thugs are the law.