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[B25]

I demand you change your avatar VP. You are being confused with our more sensible CF member Deniz, you are not worthy to copy his current avatar. Can't you find an image of a snake or something more representative of you?

Cheers

P.S. Deniz, pls complain to admin about this copy cat avatar.

[Viewpoint]

I demand you change your avatar VP. You are being confused with our more sensible CF member Deniz, you are not worthy to copy his current avatar. Can't you find an image of a snake or something more representative of you?

Cheers

P.S. Deniz, pls complain to admin about this copy cat avatar.

Like I would do anything you want.

[Pyrpolizer]

Why do you want to impose your rights on people who are content with the devil they know, if they wanted they could move south tomorrow but no one wants to be a minority among GCs and accept what you peddle as they know what the consequences will be, they might as well go live in France or the UK at least on those countries they will have a better chance of living a normal life.

When you first mentioned this argument it was supposed to be your personal preference. Now seeing that the kibrislis haven't returned en masse -which is actually a fact- you jump into conclusions that they do so because the are afraid of the Kypreos or the think they are an unpreferred "devil" com;pared with the mainland Turks.

This is total nonsense.May I remind you of the thousands who cross everyday to work.Others for business and others to travel around.You are forgetting the human nature that people don't like moving and living permanently to other places.The same thing will happen to the Kypreos refugees in case of a solution.Its very unlikely that they will return. This does not mean anything other than their preference to live and stay where they are.They get used to an environment even if they are total strangers or foreigners there they are very reluctant to change. This applies even to expatriated Cypriots, do you think there is any chance for the so many expats in this forum to ever return?

People however do move when there are motives. I could bet the majority of Kibrislis who had substantial immovable property in the free areas would move if the RoC would give them their properties back immediately and offered free schooling nearby for their children. The RoC however doesn't want them to move for 2 reasons:To guard the Kypreos properties they now hold, and b)to avert their replacing by settlers.

So nothing to do with the "Devil" image you try to paint. Also nothing to do with loving the Turks so much that they want to live-and become a minority among the trashy settlers.They don't like it but they got used to it.

Except that the Roc also holds the properties and the rent due on the said properties of the TCs that moved overseas prior to 74 have not exchanged property and have never lived in the trnc.

Not really. Those who moved overseas before 1974 can get their properties anytime they wish, including the collected rent if the property was rented which was rather rare. I personally rent some 5 acres of Government land (not Kibrisli) it's called "halit land" for peanuts, something like 10 Euros per acre per year.

[DTA]

Why do you want to impose your rights on people who are content with the devil they know, if they wanted they could move south tomorrow but no one wants to be a minority among GCs and accept what you peddle as they know what the consequences will be, they might as well go live in France or the UK at least on those countries they will have a better chance of living a normal life.

When you first mentioned this argument it was supposed to be your personal preference. Now seeing that the kibrislis haven't returned en masse -which is actually a fact- you jump into conclusions that they do so because the are afraid of the Kypreos or the think they are an unpreferred "devil" com;pared with the mainland Turks.

This is total nonsense.May I remind you of the thousands who cross everyday to work.Others for business and others to travel around.You are forgetting the human nature that people don't like moving and living permanently to other places.The same thing will happen to the Kypreos refugees in case of a solution.Its very unlikely that they will return. This does not mean anything other than their preference to live and stay where they are.They get used to an environment even if they are total strangers or foreigners there they are very reluctant to change. This applies even to expatriated Cypriots, do you think there is any chance for the so many expats in this forum to ever return?

People however do move when there are motives. I could bet the majority of Kibrislis who had substantial immovable property in the free areas would move if the RoC would give them their properties back immediately and offered free schooling nearby for their children. The RoC however doesn't want them to move for 2 reasons:To guard the Kypreos properties they now hold, and b)to avert their replacing by settlers.

So nothing to do with the "Devil" image you try to paint. Also nothing to do with loving the Turks so much that they want to live-and become a minority among the trashy settlers.They don't like it but they got used to it.

Except that the Roc also holds the properties and the rent due on the said properties of the TCs that moved overseas prior to 74 have not exchanged property and have never lived in the trnc.

Not really. Those who moved overseas before 1974 can get their properties anytime they wish, including the collected rent if the property was rented which was rather rare. I personally rent some 5 acres of Government land (not Kibrisli) it's called "halit land" for peanuts, something like 10 Euros per acre per year.

That is Just not true, my fathers family (him and his two siblings) have 50 donums of land in the paphos region of the Roc
despite leaving in 68 after six of his family members were killed, and applying to the republic since the early '70s and even getting the ombuswoman to back their case they have not recieved any rent or been able to get the land back - this is a stone cold fact.

The house is being used by a refugee, and other land by other Gcs not sure if they are refugees or not.

and if the 10 euros a year is an indication of rent due, then I hope you accept the same for the Gcs who have lost land in the north?

[bill cobbett]

Why do you want to impose your rights on people who are content with the devil they know, if they wanted they could move south tomorrow but no one wants to be a minority among GCs and accept what you peddle as they know what the consequences will be, they might as well go live in France or the UK at least on those countries they will have a better chance of living a normal life.

When you first mentioned this argument it was supposed to be your personal preference. Now seeing that the kibrislis haven't returned en masse -which is actually a fact- you jump into conclusions that they do so because the are afraid of the Kypreos or the think they are an unpreferred "devil" com;pared with the mainland Turks.

This is total nonsense.May I remind you of the thousands who cross everyday to work.Others for business and others to travel around.You are forgetting the human nature that people don't like moving and living permanently to other places.The same thing will happen to the Kypreos refugees in case of a solution.Its very unlikely that they will return. This does not mean anything other than their preference to live and stay where they are.They get used to an environment even if they are total strangers or foreigners there they are very reluctant to change. This applies even to expatriated Cypriots, do you think there is any chance for the so many expats in this forum to ever return?

People however do move when there are motives. I could bet the majority of Kibrislis who had substantial immovable property in the free areas would move if the RoC would give them their properties back immediately and offered free schooling nearby for their children. The RoC however doesn't want them to move for 2 reasons:To guard the Kypreos properties they now hold, and b)to avert their replacing by settlers.

So nothing to do with the "Devil" image you try to paint. Also nothing to do with loving the Turks so much that they want to live-and become a minority among the trashy settlers.They don't like it but they got used to it.

Except that the Roc also holds the properties and the rent due on the said properties of the TCs that moved overseas prior to 74 have not exchanged property and have never lived in the trnc.

Not really. Those who moved overseas before 1974 can get their properties anytime they wish, including the collected rent if the property was rented which was rather rare. I personally rent some 5 acres of Government land (not Kibrisli) it's called "halit land" for peanuts, something like 10 Euros per acre per year.

That is Just not true, my fathers family (him and his two siblings) have 50 donums of land in the paphos region of the Roc
despite leaving in 68 after six of his family members were killed, and applying to the republic since the early '70s and even getting the ombuswoman to back their case they have not recieved any rent or been able to get the land back - this is a stone cold fact.

The house is being used by a refugee, and other land by other Gcs not sure if they are refugees or not.

and if the 10 euros a year is an indication of rent due, then I hope you accept the same for the Gcs who have lost land in the north?

Reh DTA... then your family should stop pussing footing around and grab the Republic by the pollocks and drag them before the ECHR... sure fire winner... so much so the Republic will settle out of court... oh and it costs nothing to take a case before the ECHR... but to be sure, engage a decent HR lawyer.

[DTA]

Snip.


Not really. Those who moved overseas before 1974 can get their properties anytime they wish, including the collected rent if the property was rented which was rather rare. I personally rent some 5 acres of Government land (not Kibrisli) it's called "halit land" for peanuts, something like 10 Euros per acre per year.

That is Just not true, my fathers family (him and his two siblings) have 50 donums of land in the paphos region of the Roc
despite leaving in 68 after six of his family members were killed, and applying to the republic since the early '70s and even getting the ombuswoman to back their case they have not recieved any rent or been able to get the land back - this is a stone cold fact.

The house is being used by a refugee, and other land by other Gcs not sure if they are refugees or not.

and if the 10 euros a year is an indication of rent due, then I hope you accept the same for the Gcs who have lost land in the north?

Reh DTA... then your family should stop pussing footing around and grab the Republic by the pollocks and drag them before the ECHR... sure fire winner... so much so the Republic will settle out of court... oh and it costs nothing to take a case before the ECHR... but to be sure, engage a decent HR lawyer.

In all seriousness Bill how does it cost nothing? we were told it would be in region of 40 to 60 grand in legal fees to see it through to its conclusion and about 5 years!

If I have got this wrong/was ill advised, please let me know because i would be very interested, as would my family.

[B25]

perhaps you should talk to Cherie Blair. This cow may do it for a dodgy cheque

Bill, why are you seeking to help these guys out, let them wait for a settlement for restitution like we have to wait. Reh, ma pelanes???

[bill cobbett]

Snip.


Not really. Those who moved overseas before 1974 can get their properties anytime they wish, including the collected rent if the property was rented which was rather rare. I personally rent some 5 acres of Government land (not Kibrisli) it's called "halit land" for peanuts, something like 10 Euros per acre per year.

That is Just not true, my fathers family (him and his two siblings) have 50 donums of land in the paphos region of the Roc
despite leaving in 68 after six of his family members were killed, and applying to the republic since the early '70s and even getting the ombuswoman to back their case they have not recieved any rent or been able to get the land back - this is a stone cold fact.

The house is being used by a refugee, and other land by other Gcs not sure if they are refugees or not.

and if the 10 euros a year is an indication of rent due, then I hope you accept the same for the Gcs who have lost land in the north?

Reh DTA... then your family should stop pussing footing around and grab the Republic by the pollocks and drag them before the ECHR... sure fire winner... so much so the Republic will settle out of court... oh and it costs nothing to take a case before the ECHR... but to be sure, engage a decent HR lawyer.

In all seriousness Bill how does it cost nothing? we were told it would be in region of 40 to 60 grand in legal fees to see it through to its conclusion and about 5 years!

If I have got this wrong/was ill advised, please let me know because i would be very interested, as would my family.

It costs nothing to make the original application, done it myself cost absolutely zero... know lawyers and barristers are very pricey but the costs you say you were quoted do seem excessive. The ECHR does have a legal aid scheme which is far more generous than the GB one.

[bill cobbett]

perhaps you should talk to Cherie Blair. This cow may do it for a dodgy cheque

Bill, why are you seeking to help these guys out, let them wait for a settlement for restitution like we have to wait. Reh, ma pelanes???

...erm yes belana.

No not really mate, there is method and there are two or three angles to this... let me tell you my more devious thinking behind one reason why more people should be encouraged to reclaim their lands in the Free Areas, it makes the exchange scam more and more of a scam with each person that recovers their lands cos each transfer to rightful owners makes inroads into the stolen/exchanged land bank that Tnucland claims to be holding.

[bill cobbett]

I demand you change your avatar VP. You are being confused with our more sensible CF member Deniz, you are not worthy to copy his current avatar. Can't you find an image of a snake or something more representative of you?

Cheers

P.S. Deniz, pls complain to admin about this copy cat avatar.

Like I would do anything you want.

Agreed... VP please give Deniz his dress back, cos you're confusing us.