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[Viewpoint]

You used these figures to support your argument they are GC originated and obviously wrong, stop misleading people.

Who supplied the entire island totals?

Source: Based on information from "Republic of Cyprus", Ministry of Finance, Department of Statistics and Research,

[Kikapu]

You used these figures to support your argument they are GC originated and obviously wrong, stop misleading people.

Who supplied the entire island totals?

Source: Based on information from "Republic of Cyprus", Ministry of Finance, Department of Statistics and Research,

Wrong again, "Einstein".

The figures for the population table were given by:

* Figures through 1960 are based on Ottoman and British estimates and censuses. Figures thereafter are provided by Turkish Cypriot authorities.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/cyprus/cy_appen.html

Read 'em and weep!

[Viewpoint]

Hey dumbo Im referring to the entire island population figures provided by the "RoC", they are false. You need this figure to calculate the % of GCs and TCs.


The combined figures in 1988 are GCS 562,7 (of which some are not GCs) TCs 167,256 Total 729,956 GCS 75/77% TCS 23%

So this 18% shit is GC propaganda and why in all the negotiations to date 29% has been on the negotiation table as a compromise as this figure was much higher pre 1974.

[Pyrpolizer]

Hello again DTA,

Here’s the link about The Cyprus Conflict Web site
http://www.cyprus-conflict.net/

Now about the population percentages at 1878 when the British took over here are some results that I found


From there on here’s what each one says:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyprus

By 1872, the population of the island had risen to 144,000 comprising 44,000 Muslims and 100,000 Christians.[43]
[43]Osmanli Nufusu 1830–1914 by Kemal Karpat, ISBN 975-333-169-X and Die Vo"lker des Osmanischen by Ritter zur Helle von Samo.

http://www.cypnet.co.uk/ncyprus/people/ ... index.html
At the time of the British arrival in Cyprus in 1878 under the Cyprus Defence Alliance between Great Britain and the Ottoman Empire, approximately 95,000 Turkish-Cypriots were residing on the island.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_history_of_Cyprus

The British authorities carried out the first census in 1881, the total population of Cyprus was 186,173, of which 137,631 (73,9%) were Greeks, 45,438 (24,4%) were Turks and 3,084 (1,7%) were minorities of Maronites, Latins and Armenians.

[1]Language contact and the lexicon in the history of Cypriot Greek, Stavroula Varella, page 69, 2006

http://www.bluebirdresearch.com/category/blog/cyprus/

The Cyprus census returns of 1881, 1891 and 1901 show how small the population was: respectively, 186,173, 209,286 and 237,022 persons. The population was overwhelmingly rural too: the largest town, Nicosia, had only 11,536, 12,515 and 14,752 inhabitants in these three census years. As for religion, the population was majority Greek Orthodox: 73.9% in 1881, 75.8% in 1891 and 77.1% in 1901 (although the figures for Nicosia were markedly lower, being only 54.2% Orthodox in 1901). The great majority of the remainder of the population was of course Sunni Muslim.*

So which one do you think is the most reliable source and what the real figures? I would personally trust the British censunses.

I do remember that I ‘ve read somewhere in the Cyprus conflict web site that the Mouslim population got reduced after the British took over. But unfortunately I couldn’t find the exact quote. The sure thing is that by the 1960 census the Kibrislis were about 18%

[Kikapu]

Hey dumbo Im referring to the entire island population figures provided by the "RoC", they are false. You need this figure to calculate the % of GCs and TCs.

Now you are making things as you go along, just because you have been caught out...again.

We are discussing the population figures of the TCs what DTA was talking about, so stick with the topic or else don't add anything that doesn't belong to it.

[Viewpoint]

Hey dumbo Im referring to the entire island population figures provided by the "RoC", they are false. You need this figure to calculate the % of GCs and TCs.

Now you are making things as you go along, just because you have been caught out...again.

We are discussing the population figures of the TCs what DTA was talking about, so stick with the topic or else don't add anything that doesn't belong to it.

I have proven that these figures are not to be trusted as they have been manipulated by the GCs therefore all the data becomes very dubious, yet you try to peddle them as being right therefore misleading people, I thought you double checked your data, thats obviously a lie as well tut tut still believing your own shit.

[Pyrpolizer]

Hey dumbo Im referring to the entire island population figures provided by the "RoC", they are false. You need this figure to calculate the % of GCs and TCs.

Now you are making things as you go along, just because you have been caught out...again.

We are discussing the population figures of the TCs what DTA was talking about, so stick with the topic or else don't add anything that doesn't belong to it.

I have proven that these figures are not to be trusted as they have been manipulated by the GCs therefore all the data becomes very dubious, yet you try to peddle them as being right therefore misleading people, I thought you double checked your data, thats obviously a lie as well tut tut still believing your own shit.

The ULTIMATE lie dear VP is what is ACTUALLY quoted in the "ncyprus" web site.
Not even the Turkish writer who wrote the book "osmanli nufusu" could ever reach that high.95,000!!!! imish more than 2 times what the Turkish writer wrote in his book

[Pyrpolizer]

Hi Pyro, how's it going? If I remember correctly I signed up to this forum to respond to a very good thread that you started.

I'm not saying that the 45% is accurate i just don't know, plus icant read Turkish that well so that also complicates it also, because although it did say the that 45% of the population was tc, the site could easily be full of shit and because of my limited Turkish I can't tell.

Anyway this thread has gone on off on a tangent,

Thank you for your kind words my friend.
Like I said we all say our opinions here, and I also appreciated your telling your opinion in a humble way, which is rather rare for Cypriots of all kinds.

[Viewpoint]

Pyro we are debating figures provided by Kikapu which are obviously dubious and very misleading. i thought you claimed this racist double checks his sources, obviously he has tricked you as well as his other bum licking followers.

[Pyrpolizer]

I found the information at the bluebird web site very very interesting especially on who the Linobambaki really were.There were Muslims Linobambaki too, converting to avoid military service LOL.
Also did i read correct that the Ottomans did not count the women in their censuses, and that those were done over a 2 year period?