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Re: Should the president go?

Postby Sotos » Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:50 am

cpjay wrote:I was not going to reply on this until .... yeah the one in Japan was an accident, it was a 10 degree earthquake, no one in Japan has a say about this, but this thing in Cyprus, yeah well, I will take in 2000 tons of explosives and leave it out there in the sun for 2 years, and yep, it's not my fault, and it's an accident...

For real??? you are comparing these two??? risk????


In Cyprus it was an accident also. Nobody did it intentionally. Earthquakes in Japan happen all the time. Tsounamis are not unheard of. And they had Nuclear power plant on the coast. It was an accident waiting to happen just like the case in Cyprus ... but much worst accident as they were taking risks with Nuclears over there! Economics, politics etc are something all governments often put above the safety of their people ... particularly the safety of soldiers whom many governments don't mind to put their lives at risk in order to have political and financial gains. When such gambles don't pay off then the governments are in trouble ;)
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Re: Should the president go?

Postby bizzybabe » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:19 am

am accident? it was gross negligence on a massive scale and quite frankly Sotos for you to still be claiming otherwise insults the memory of those that died.

You cannot compare a disaster caused by natural events such as an earthquake, to a disaster caused by total incompetence and stupidity.

I'm starting to wonder if you are actually the president? You have as many excuses and insane explanations as him!
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Re: Should the president go?

Postby bizzybabe » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:29 am

"The Cypriot practice of not wearing seatbelts or crash helmets is because they are too stupid to accept the fact that accidents don't only happen to other people"

I can attest to that statement. And yes it does have relevance to this debate as its this underlying attitude that has ultimately caused this tragedy.

I've never seen any motorcyclists here wearing a helmet, plenty with one hanging off the arm as they drive along but never on the head where it can do any good. I know the Cypriots like to claim that the greek word for wear and carry is the same but ELLA! ELLA! Surely you must realise that if you come off a motorbike and your helmet is on your arm it will do you no good at all!?? Where as if its on your head it may very well save your life!

I have also visited many cemetery's here with Cypriots. Amongst the graves of the elderly people where also a high number of graves of young ones who had died in car and motorcycle accidents. These graves were lovingly tended and showed just how much of a heartbreak this had caused the family.
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Re: Should the president go?

Postby Sotos » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:45 am

bizzybabe wrote:am accident? it was gross negligence on a massive scale and quite frankly Sotos for you to still be claiming otherwise insults the memory of those that died.

You cannot compare a disaster caused by natural events such as an earthquake, to a disaster caused by total incompetence and stupidity.

I'm starting to wonder if you are actually the president? You have as many excuses and insane explanations as him!



Accidents do happen because of negligence, incompetence and stupidity. An earthquake is a natural event. Building a nuclear power plant on the coast of the most earthquake pron country is not a "natural event". Nuclear power plants do not naturally grow like trees... in case you didn't know. I did not excuse anybody ... all I am saying is that what happened in Cyprus is not something that doesn't happen elsewhere. At least our government does not kill innocent people and small children intentionally in order to steal their wealth... like the British and the Americans do. You can call Christofias stupid and incompetent, you could even charge him with "manslaughter by gross negligence" ... but the governments of USA and UK can be charged with "mass murder" as the crimes they commit are fully intentional. So no, you are not in the position to give lessons to us. First fix your own murderous governments ... Compared to them Christofias is an angel. :idea:
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Re: Should the president go?

Postby Bananiot » Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:32 am

Christofias will address the people today, they said. A bit late but let us see what he has to say. To those who enter into "serious" debate with sotos and B25 I say "you must be crazy".
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Re: Should the president go?

Postby johbee » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:02 am

Sotos wrote: Did you apply for citizenship during these 20 years? I don't know if you were referring to me but I never questioned the responsibility of the government or the president. I also think he should resign ;) But those that do not like our culture should simply piss off. I am not going to sit here and take insults about our culture from any bizzybabe. Who elects the president of Cyprus are the Cypriots and that is just a fact. If you want to have a say on this then get a citizenship!


I never applied for citizenship for the simple reason I do not want my son to waste over two years of his life in the pathetic army! I take the good with the bad Sotos, but through criticism comes progress. You say that you will not take insults about your culture, but you call me a mass murderer! Typical " Do as I say not as I do" mentality of many here on the island. No matter what you say, no matter what your opinion, and even if I don't have a piece of paper saying I'm a citizen I still have pride in this country and I will always consider Cyprus a big part of my life. You cannot compare what happened in Japan to what happened in Cyprus. You cannot compare the wars America conduct (to protect the country from terrorist, and of course to fuel those big muscle cars :shock: ) to what happened in Cyprus. What happened in Cyprus was down to pure incompetence and the responsible persons should be held accountable, but as we speak documents are being shredded, and the cover up is well underway.
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Re: Should the president go?

Postby Sotos » Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:09 am

johbee wrote:
Sotos wrote: Did you apply for citizenship during these 20 years? I don't know if you were referring to me but I never questioned the responsibility of the government or the president. I also think he should resign ;) But those that do not like our culture should simply piss off. I am not going to sit here and take insults about our culture from any bizzybabe. Who elects the president of Cyprus are the Cypriots and that is just a fact. If you want to have a say on this then get a citizenship!


I never applied for citizenship for the simple reason I do not want my son to waste over two years of his life in the pathetic army! I take the good with the bad Sotos, but through criticism comes progress. You say that you will not take insults about your culture, but you call me a mass murderer! Typical " Do as I say not as I do" mentality of many here on the island. No matter what you say, no matter what your opinion, and even if I don't have a piece of paper saying I'm a citizen I still have pride in this country and I will always consider Cyprus a big part of my life. You cannot compare what happened in Japan to what happened in Cyprus. You cannot compare the wars America conduct (to protect the country from terrorist, and of course to fuel those big muscle cars :shock: ) to what happened in Cyprus. What happened in Cyprus was down to pure incompetence and the responsible persons should be held accountable, but as we speak documents are being shredded, and the cover up is well underway.


No, you can not compare what happened to Cyprus with what happened in Japan. What happened in Japan was far worst. No you can not compare our government with the governments of USA or UK. Ours might be incompetent fools but the governments of USA and UK are mass murderers. So no comparison ... this is what I am saying too ;) I did give 2 years of my life to serve in the army. If you want to have reduced responsibilities then you should accept to have reduced privileges as well. The privilege to have a say about who should be the president of Cyprus is one that rightly you do not have. And I didn't call you a murderer ... murderers are the governments of certain imperialist countries. If you are a citizen of such a country then pay attention of how you will remove the mass murderers from your government and let us worry about how to remove the incompetent fools from ours ;)
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Re: Should the president go?

Postby Milo » Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:15 am

Surprisingly the President did not attend any of the funerals yesterday! That may have been because of his 'advisors' telling him what to do, who really knows. But IMO only I think that was a big mistake. He did,nt even attend the funeral of the Chief of the Navy? Apparently neither did Mr Omirou?

Hoping it will all go away is not the answer, he is adressing the nation today after the cabinet meeting.

Off course Sotos we did remove the Leaders of our relative countries, once we knew what they did in our name. Many other countries in this region are dying right now in order to rid themselves of Leaders who care little for them or their opinions.
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Re: Should the president go?

Postby Mikiko » Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:29 am

From what I read yesterday there was a request from one family the politicians not to attend the funeral but I dont know about the rest of the funerals!
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Re: Should the president go?

Postby Sotos » Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:33 am

If he was attending the funerals he could have been lynched. Many people hold him responsible for what happened. Better that he didn't go!
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