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Re: BBF is not in the interest of Turkish Cypriots....

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:39 pm

Viewpoint wrote:You people still dont get it TCs would rather assimilate into Turks (which is as it happens their roots) than assimilate into GCS in a bad deal.

Once you understand this basic fact then you might start to out forward a better deal otherwise minority rights in a GC state is a non starter.


Just answer this to me, will you.

Kikapu wrote:The high percentage of Turks vs. the TCs in the north can give the TCs a saving grace however, if they are willing to wake up and take it. In a BBF, the TCs are meant to be the majority in the north. This majority is not ONLY against the GCs, but a majority overall, which means hundreds of thousands of Turks would need to vacate the north in order for the TCs to maintain their majority. It is no wonder the corrupted north's regime want to give "trnc citizenship" to the settlers by claiming they are "TCs", but in reality, the "trnc" cannot make anyone a TC by giving them "trnc citizenship". Those given such "citizenship" remain just as illegal today as they were when they came to Cyprus.
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Re: BBF is not in the interest of Turkish Cypriots....

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:11 pm

Whats the question Kikapu?
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Re: BBF is not in the interest of Turkish Cypriots....

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:17 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Whats the question Kikapu?


The question is, since the TCs need to be the majority in the north state in a BBF, does that not mean then, that few hundred thousand Turks (settlers) would need to go back to Turkey.?
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Re: BBF is not in the interest of Turkish Cypriots....

Postby jahitty » Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:31 pm

VP you disgust me! If you wanna assimilate then f****k off to Turkey, first im proud to be cypriot and i happen to speak Turkish, it doesnt mean my roots lie in Turkey, what you call assimilation is actually annihilation, im no fan of the ruling elites politics in the south or the 'North', but I do support a fair as can be solution which means a federal cyprus as agreed within the UN parameters. You are spitting in the graves of ALL of Cypriots who have stood up and fought all foreign powers wanting a piece of Cyprus.
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Re: BBF is not in the interest of Turkish Cypriots....

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:52 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Whats the question Kikapu?


The question is, since the TCs need to be the majority in the north state in a BBF, does that not mean then, that few hundred thousand Turks (settlers) would need to go back to Turkey.?


Yes, in the event of a solution recent settlers will be either sent back or allowed to live and work here on a permit.
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Re: BBF is not in the interest of Turkish Cypriots....

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:56 pm

jahitty wrote:VP you disgust me! If you wanna assimilate then f****k off to Turkey, first im proud to be cypriot and i happen to speak Turkish, it doesnt mean my roots lie in Turkey, what you call assimilation is actually annihilation, im no fan of the ruling elites politics in the south or the 'North', but I do support a fair as can be solution which means a federal cyprus as agreed within the UN parameters. You are spitting in the graves of ALL of Cypriots who have stood up and fought all foreign powers wanting a piece of Cyprus.



Can you go back 5 generations? your roots are from Turkey you can deny it all you want....if you want to live as a minority among GCs feel free or in your words fuck off and move south tomorrow.
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Re: BBF is not in the interest of Turkish Cypriots....

Postby bill cobbett » Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:02 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Whats the question Kikapu?


The question is, since the TCs need to be the majority in the north state in a BBF, does that not mean then, that few hundred thousand Turks (settlers) would need to go back to Turkey.?


Yes, in the event of a solution recent settlers will be either sent back or allowed to live and work here on a permit.


Well, Pres X has put a max figure of 50,000, along the lines of those born in CY or married to CYs.

Don't think it was a figure just plucked from the air in that it's a number that ensures that the CYs form the majority in a future northern zone... and who could argue with the reasoning, other than Turkish nationalists.
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Re: BBF is not in the interest of Turkish Cypriots....

Postby jahitty » Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:34 pm

Im not denying my roots, quite frankly roots are not the issue here, the issue is how people who have lived together for hundreds of years can continue to live together without outside interference. If you wanna live as a minority amongst conservative islamists then be my guest.
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Re: BBF is not in the interest of Turkish Cypriots....

Postby humanist » Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:45 pm

In my opinion Turkish speaking Cypriots are where they are because that is where they wish to be. The GC's therefore should keep fighting for the freedom of OUR Country and allow the TC's to be where they want to be. Under Turkish rule and outnumbered by settlers from Turkey.
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Re: BBF is not in the interest of Turkish Cypriots....

Postby Viewpoint » Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:32 am

jahitty wrote:Im not denying my roots, quite frankly roots are not the issue here, the issue is how people who have lived together for hundreds of years can continue to live together without outside interference. If you wanna live as a minority amongst conservative islamists then be my guest.


You were the one that denied your root lie in Turkey not me and that you cursed me for preferring to assimilate into Turks rather than GCs.

You obviously rather be a minority amongst GCs.
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